Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

So why did Jaqen not kill Arya there? Surely if her name was offered to the red god like the other one said, he should have killed her..

Good episode.. Afterall the crazy internet theories about last episode Arya storyline.. :lol:
 
Very mediocre.

Arya being chased by the Waif was cheesy as hell. It was like John Connor being chased by T1000 except it just didn't suit GoT at all. Plus I've just never found this Waif character interesting at all.

All the stuff at Riverrun was also extremely dull. The teenage crush of Brianne has to be overplayed in proper twilight style with long deep stares and gulped from our teenager lovebirds. Plus, it was just so convenient that Jaimie could use Lord Edmure to waltz right in, showing that he too could play the game of thrones well. Whoopdeedoo.

And the "jokes" scene was also really terrible. In fact the best character of the show - Tyrian - has been reduced, this season, to the same level of pointlessness as he was when the show started. Weird thing to develop a character so well and then spend a season making him do feck all but sip wine and try (and fail) to be funny.

And then of course Denaerys has to play the hero/saviour bit.

Sigh. GoT. Used to like it much more in the early seasons. Now, I can really like it one week and find it dull as hell the next.
 
harms said:
Obviously not - it's a ritual that's been around forever and it has more to do with the Gods than with the King himself. You saw how the people reacted when Tyrell's tried to interfere with the Faith - now imagine the new King with questionable provenance says "feck the Gods, I'll know better" and changes one of the oldest rules in the book?
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obviously not you say....
 
Organic Potatoes said:
Yes.

Remember the hot tub scene with Brienne and Jamie? And the flashbacks/and/or foreshadowing with Bran's visions of the Mad King and seeing the green flames going through tunnels that looked like they were in Kings Landing?
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I thought all that was just how Tyrion blew up the ships? So that was actually Cersi using it to blow up KL altogether?
 
I wouldnt call it filler, since you cant really just get rid of the episodes and then get to the next and it making sense. I can understand some scenes being called filler scenes, but they werent really filler episodes. If anything, the last three were set up episodes. But they were still good.
 
I don't know how that's a filler.

Aryas faceless ark is now closed
Cersei fecked off the religion
Tommen fecked off cersei
Danys back
The whole blackfish story is also closed now
The hound, did some hounding
 
First 20 mins of the Hound and Mountain scenes were good, after that it was pretty average.

The whole Arya scenes were terrible, such lazy bad writing. The plot had so many holes and was so inconsistent with everything that went before. At least we got the ending we finally wanted. She remembers who she is and she's going home! :drool:
 
Yeah, I know there's dragons and zombies in this show and all, but that's the first time in a long time I've given the show a thumbs down for being ridiculous. Arya stuff was lame and I couldn't enjoy it. Blame on time-skipping or whatever giving her enough time to have recovered, but it was beyond daft. Seriously, all of the mad possibilities the internet cooked up over the past week were actually more plausible than how it went down :D

So, are there any Valeryan axes in Westeros? :D
 
That's three meh episodes in a row. And that terminator style Arya chase scene was hilarious.
 
TBH, im just glad the Arya faceless arc is over and shes headed back home (kinda) with a few kills, with some more skills and having grown up.
 
Why so many offscreen deaths ?

The tyrion scene was embarrassing - it's almost like he has gotten into a dispute with the writers / producers and they've decided that hel be shit now.

Hound with best line of the series " you're shit at dying ":lol:
 
So it looks like Jaime will march north and help defeat the boltons at brienne's desire. Probably letting the Tullys March north with them.

The Cersei "rumour" could have a few different outcomes, my gut feeling is
could she know Gendry is still alive, perhaps knowing Tommen is out of control, the only way to stop him is announcing he really is incest born. That'll remove him from power and promote somebody who isn't brainwashed.
 
DavidG said:
Why so many offscreen deaths ?

The tyrion scene was embarrassing - it's almost like he has gotten into a dispute with the writers / producers and they've decided that hel be shit now.

Hound with best line of the series " you're shit at dying ":lol:
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That was horrific.
 
Adam-Utd said:
So it looks like Jaime will march north and help defeat the boltons at brienne's desire. Probably letting the Tullys March north with them.

The Cersei "rumour" could have a few different outcomes, my gut feeling is
could she know Gendry is still alive, perhaps knowing Tommen is out of control, the only way to stop him is announcing he really is incest born. That'll remove him from power and promote somebody who isn't brainwashed.
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Surely it's wildfire though? Qyburn has sent the kids out searching around King's Landing and they've found the caches of it. Ties in to Bran's vision of seeing loads of it in cellars around the place and the stories about the Mad King stockpiling it that have come up a few times.
 
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Really shitty episode.

What was the point of Tyrion's scene?

Portrait the Blackfish as this stoic old badass and then make him say: "yeah, I could help Sansa, but I'd rather die" and then kill him off screen.. ..seriously?

Arya and the Waif are two stealth assassins:
Yet Arya first waltzes around the city without a care in the world when she knows that this elite hitman society is looking for her.
Yet the waif, a highly trained elite assassin, can't kill arya with three stabs and apparently manages to miss everything of remote importance while gutting Arya.
Yet they chase each other through the city in a way I'd expect from some cheap action movie.
Yet the waif, who iirc is shown to be superior to her during training, get's killed by a heavily wounded (as in bleeding all over the floor but otherwise perfectly fine) Arya.

That being said I liked the hound and Jaime scenes and they found an efficient way to advance the King's Landing story line.


Adam-Utd said:
could she know Gendry is still alive, perhaps knowing Tommen is out of control, the only way to stop him is announcing he really is incest born. That'll remove him from power and promote somebody who isn't brainwashed.
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I think the Cersei we know would rather burn the City with both Tommen and her in it than see one of Robert's bastards sit on the throne.
 
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I think Tommen is a great tragedy character.
Coming from a dysfunctional, power hungry and murderous family, he's the only one trying to bring some sense and a decent level of ethics into the game, yet he's the one who could ultimately bring doom to his house, and maybe his subjects.
 
RedSky said:
That really was a bit of a pointless character was Blackfish. His motivation to die rather than to help Rickon and Sansa was a bit absurd as well.
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Think it was more to get Jamie out of Kings landing. Give him a mission while cercei is fecked by the high sparrow.
 
Big shout out to all the fanatics analyzing tyrion and his jokes thinking there's a clue in there
 
Anyone know the music that was played at the end after Arya's wonderful dialogue?
 
Shane88 said:
Dany gets a lot of shit, mostly deserved, but her marching back into the pyramid while Drogon was on his way to feck shit up in the background was class.
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She get's shit because of her dialogue. The less she talks, the better her effect will be :lol:

Great episode that.
 
I'm not sure some of you know what "filler" is. Decent episode overall though, thought the Arya stuff was a bit underwhelming and the Riverlands plot altogether seems a bit pointless unless the speculation regarding KL is true.
 
Skills said:
I don't know how that's a filler.

Aryas faceless ark is now closed
Cersei fecked off the religion
Tommen fecked off cersei
Danys back
The whole blackfish story is also closed now
The hound, did some hounding
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People either keep using the term "filler" because

A) They really don't know what a filler episode is.
B) They don't understand that stories need to develop before reaching their climax giggity
C) It's become the cool kid's saying for any episode that doesn't have an event like The Red Wedding, Hardholme or Ned's Decapitation.
 
JustAFan said:
People either keep using the term "filler" because

A) They really don't know what a filler episode is.
B) They don't understand that stories need to develop before reaching their climax giggity
C) It's become the cool kid's saying for any episode that doesn't have an event like The Red Wedding, Hardholme or Ned's Decapitation.
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True.

But this has nothing to do with B. It was a poor episode. If anything, "filler" is a convenient excuse for every average/rubbish GoT episode.
 
In comparison to 5, episodes 6 7 and 8 have been shit. 9 and 10 will be spectacular though and can forget all about the past 3 hours and the insane amount of plot holes.
 
unchanged_lineup said:
Surely it's wildfire though? Pycelle has sent the kids out searching around King's Landing and they've found the caches of it. Ties in to Bran's vision of seeing loads of it in cellars around the place and the stories about the Mad King stockpiling it that have come up a few times.
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Do we know he's been searching for wild fire? Must have missed that part, if she's asked him to find it then maybe..

I personally thought Brans flashbacks were just to show he could see the past, don't think he can see the future? I just can't see her setting fire to the whole castle, unless she gets Tommen and the others out first.
 
Dante said:
A trained assassin would go straight for the heart. 'The Waif' intentionally missed everything in order to make Arya suffer (against Jaqen's orders, obviously).
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I posted about that in a subsequent post as well. Arya, still a trainee basically made that Myran Trent (I might have gotten the spelling wrong) person suffer horribly in last season's finale. She gouged his eyes and really made it a torturous kill. She was still a trainee and she knew how to do that. The Waif on the other hand is presumably a lot more experienced. Yet she was literally admiring her stabs when Arya decides to use her head to knock her back. And from what I understand in the show, isn't slitting someone's neck the most painful way to die ? I remember that Catelyn Stark death so well. I'm sure there were other deaths too like that.

anant said:
Anyone know the music that was played at the end after Arya's wonderful dialogue?
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Yeah, it was excellent. You might find it on Wiki GoT.
 
Adam-Utd said:
So it looks like Jaime will march north and help defeat the boltons at brienne's desire. Probably letting the Tullys March north with them.

The Cersei "rumour" could have a few different outcomes, my gut feeling is
could she know Gendry is still alive, perhaps knowing Tommen is out of control, the only way to stop him is announcing he really is incest born. That'll remove him from power and promote somebody who isn't brainwashed.
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Nah, Cersei would be screwed over is she admitted incest and would lose any chance at all she has of gaining power. Now about Bran's vision. It seems to show the wildfire in some sort of tunnel (or maybe I am just not seeing it right) so it is either being set loose underneath or inside of some structure intentionally or could it be someone fecks up and sets it all off by accident so instead of it just taking out the Sept and the Sparrows it takes out all of Kings Landing? Most likely Cersei will try and take out all of Kinds Landing, she will view the common folk being in league with the Sparrows.
 
People seem so convinced about the Cersei theory, just like people were about Arya's plot. Seems a little out of character though for her don't you think ? Whatever she's done upto now, has been subtle political sabotaging. But the theory is showing her introducing anarchy at it's finest.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Do we know he's been searching for wild fire? Must have missed that part, if she's asked him to find it then maybe..

I personally thought Brans flashbacks were just to show he could see the past, don't think he can see the future? I just can't see her setting fire to the whole castle, unless she gets Tommen and the others out first.
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That's gonna be the reveal, but there's been a hell of a lot of foreshadowing of what I'm saying.
 
Ijazz17 said:
People seem so convinced about the Cersei theory, just like people were about Arya's plot. Seems a little out of character though for her don't you think ? Whatever she's done upto now, has been subtle political sabotaging. But the theory is showing her introducing anarchy at it's finest.
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I'm not saying I agree with the "Burn them all laddie" theory, but I do think that's what Qyburn meant about what the "birds" have found. How she's going to use it, who knows... but she's pretty desperate.
 
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unchanged_lineup said:
I'm not saying I agree with the "Burn them all laddie" theory, but I do think that's what Pycelle meant about what the "birds" have found. How she's going to use it, who knows... but she's pretty desperate.
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:lol:. I wonder if this is where they got the inspiration from.
 
DavidG said:
In comparison to 5, episodes 6 7 and 8 have been shit. 9 and 10 will be spectacular though and can forget all about the past 3 hours and the insane amount of plot holes.
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Eh?? Season 5 was mostly shite, save for "Hardhome" (8th episode). Although this week's episode was kinda weak, overall I'm enjoying this season way more than last. Agree that things should be kicking off nicely next week.
 
Ijazz17 said:
People seem so convinced about the Cersei theory, just like people were about Arya's plot. Seems a little out of character though for her don't you think ? Whatever she's done upto now, has been subtle political sabotaging. But the theory is showing her introducing anarchy at it's finest.
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Don't think Cersei has ever really been that subtle, or at least not as subtle as she thinks she is being. Even her own father, may he shit gold forever in heaven with the seven, didn't trust her decision making skills.
 
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