Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

Safe to say the show is back on track after the disappointing season 5. Halfway through this season already though. :(
 
Yeah it is moving quite fast if you consider we're over the half way point now and the big battles are probably only a few eps away, usually it feels like we wait ages with a feckload of travelling from place to place, this time round it seems to be happening quite quickly. I suspect they're going to give the Snow vs Bolton war some more build up in the next few eps culminating in the final showdown.

Interested to see how the White Walkers play in to this, by far the most interesting part of the show, the whole Bran storyline and the entire mythology of it. Its actually quite strange as in earlier seasons I found it quite tedious and much preferred the whole war for the Iron throne. But credit to the producers, the way theyve written it with increasing significance and the whole big picture/larger than life vibe it has going sure makes for excellent viewing.

Also on a side note is there a reason why the entire White Walker army was parked in one place doing feck all?
And what was there beef with the three eyed raven? I know the tree girls or whatever theyre called created the White walkers, i dont know I feel like I'm missing something obvious and important.
 
Im guessing he can as shown today. The reason why he got his name.

Imagine if hes the reason the mad King went... mad
or the reason certain things in the past have happened. Crazy
I am also confused about how this whole thing with Bran is working out. I just hope it doesn't just all become about time travel.
 
I am also confused about how this whole thing with Bran is working out. I just hope it doesn't just all become about time travel.

Im guessing now that he knows the implications of it, it wont really come into play now. I think guilt will fill him, and he will take things more seriously and be more focused on this.


So im guessing this leads to:
-Sansa getting the troops to help Snow who takes out Ramsey.
-But whilst that happens, the wall gets torn down by the white walkers
-Bran will probably end up leading them there eventually whilst hes looking for protection with his remaining family but in the meantime learns a lot including about Snows parents
-in KL, Lannisters will take advantage of Tyrells vs the religious cult.
-But then Dany comes in and takes out Lannisters esp with Tyrions help

Dany and Jon come together (and with Sams learning, the Dragons, and warging Bran) help to stop the biggest threat, the whitewalkers.
 
Has the mark by the white walkers on bran been explained ?? Does this mean they can enter any barrier as long as bran is inside ??

How far is meera going drag him before they break down the door anyway. Guess it's over for the bran story line.

Hodor:( Another direwolf down.. Fecking hell
 
Im guessing now that he knows the implications of it, it wont really come into play now. I think guilt will fill him, and he will take things more seriously and be more focused on this.


So im guessing this leads to:
-Sansa getting the troops to help Snow who takes out Ramsey.
-But whilst that happens, the wall gets torn down by the white walkers
-Bran will probably end up leading them there eventually whilst hes looking for protection with his remaining family but in the meantime learns a lot including about Snows parents
-in KL, Lannisters will take advantage of Tyrells vs the religious cult.
-But then Dany comes in and takes out Lannisters esp with Tyrions help

Dany and Jon come together (and with Sams learning, the Dragons, and warging Bran) help to stop the biggest threat, the whitewalkers.
Do you still think the WhiteWalkers are the biggest threat after this episode? They were created to counter the humans. Maybe they just got out of control, and the greed for power is the real enemy...
 
In Lost they actively changed the past to create all sorts of new timelines that ended up being a clusterfeck. Bran can't change the past as stated by the Bloodraven. He basically kept the timeline as is.

Yep, thats how I would see it. TBH, the origin of Hodor was really well done. I really liked it.

Do you still think the WhiteWalkers are the biggest threat after this episode? They were created to counter the humans. Maybe they just got out of control, and the greed for power is the real enemy...

I think they are mostly cos of the sheer number of their army. What was created for a war, is now the biggest threat to all kingdoms surely. They are the only ones who can pretty much recruit during a battle.
 
In Lost they actively changed the past to create all sorts of new timelines that ended up being a clusterfeck. Bran can't change the past as stated by the Bloodraven. He basically kept the timeline as is.
Yeah it's like Predestination. A sort of weird self fulfilling time travel loop.
 
On a side note, was the second red priestess the one who cut off vary's balls?? She seemed to know quite a lot about it.
 
Im confused.
Why does the white walker touching Bran lead him to come looking for Bran and want to kill him?
 
So what does everything use to stream this? My usual project free tv went to shit for me today so am open for something new... Also the quality is almost always wank.
 
Just when I was starting to get annoyed with Brann's storyline, this happens. Also, Arya should hurry up and just smack Candice from Fresh Meat and move on with things.
 
Where were Jon and Sansa off to?

Also, would not trust Littlefinger. Wonder what will become of Brienne at the Vale.
 
Finally, you guys caught up to it. That was one of the most saddest episodes on GoT ever. I mean The Red Wedding was very shocking, without even a hint of knowing it was coming. But from the moment, Bran stares at young Willis, with the music in the background was just so depressing. And the Direwolf... :(

Can someone explain to me how that is even possible ? I was totally against the idea of time travel, but this doesn't exactly seem like time travel, but more like fulfilling his destiny sort of loop. I don't even understand how it works. Are those flashbacks a sort of warging ? (His eyes turn white). He wasn't even touching a branch of that tree as Meera and Hodor were dragging him away, so how does it even continue ? So basically Meera shouts at Bran through the flashback asking Bran to Warg into Hodor. So does Bran decide to warg into Hodor from within the flashback ? Is that why young Willis, could hear Meera's screams and ultimately the start of the reason for why he becomes Hodor?

Does it also mean that anytime Bran decides to Warg into someone or something within a flashback, he ends up causing irreversible damage to the said animal/person ?

But damn, even apart from the heartbreaking at the end(And I was really heart broken by it), it was such an excellent episode. The emotional send off between Dany and Jorah, the stuff at the Watch, Arya's arc. Even though, I didn't quite like Arya's scenes in this episode, you can see why they were doing it. They want her to become truly faceless, and she can't do that without forgetting her past. Great episode. I had my apprehensions on how the writers would be able to do after running out of source material, but they seem to doing just fine.

Also Summer... :(.
 
So many direwolves dead, I care more about them than half the characters on the show :(
 
Thought that was just Brienne?
Is it ? I didn't know The Vale and Riverrun were the same place. Assumed them to be different places. Then probably to all the smaller houses, Kastark, Mormont and one more that Snow mentioned which I don't remember.
 
Hodor's death scene was really, really well done. Excellent episode.
 
Is it ? I didn't know The Vale and Riverrun were the same place. Assumed them to be different places. Then probably to all the smaller houses, Kastark, Mormont and one more that Snow mentioned which I don't remember.
I'm probably wrong.

Also in answer to your spoiler above
I think that Bran and the Night's King have very similar powers that both originate from the Children of the Forest. So he or his ancestor was created from the power of the Children of the Forest and Bran also has these powers from the Children of the forest thus connecting them or something. All interpretation, could be wrong. Maybe it is like how the Bloodraven could see and talk to Bran during their adventures into the past?
 
Is it ? I didn't know The Vale and Riverrun were the same place. Assumed them to be different places. Then probably to all the smaller houses, Kastark, Mormont and one more that Snow mentioned which I don't remember.
Vale and Riverrun are different places. Riverrun was were House Tully resides and Vale is where House Arryn resides
 
Vale and Riverrun are different places. Riverrun was were House Tully resides and Vale is where House Arryn resides
Oh, ok. The previous episode where Littlefinger visits Sansa's cousin, that was riverrun ?
 
Great episode that. :( Hodor. Thought that end sequence was brilliant.

But the best bit of the episode was clearly Kevin Eldon playing Ned Stark as a thick northerner. :lol:
 
Finally, you guys caught up to it. That was one of the most saddest episodes on GoT ever. I mean The Red Wedding was very shocking, without even a hint of knowing it was coming. But from the moment, Bran stares at young Willis, with the music in the background was just so depressing. And the Direwolf... :(

Can someone explain to me how that is even possible ? I was totally against the idea of time travel, but this doesn't exactly seem like time travel, but more like fulfilling his destiny sort of loop. I don't even understand how it works. Are those flashbacks a sort of warging ? (His eyes turn white). He wasn't even touching a branch of that tree as Meera and Hodor were dragging him away, so how does it even continue ? So basically Meera shouts at Bran through the flashback asking Bran to Warg into Hodor. So does Bran decide to warg into Hodor from within the flashback ? Is that why young Willis, could hear Meera's screams and ultimately the start of the reason for why he becomes Hodor?

Does it also mean that anytime Bran decides to Warg into someone or something within a flashback, he ends up causing irreversible damage to the said animal/person ?

But damn, even apart from the heartbreaking at the end(And I was really heart broken by it), it was such an excellent episode. The emotional send off between Dany and Jorah, the stuff at the Watch, Arya's arc. Even though, I didn't quite like Arya's scenes in this episode, you can see why they were doing it. They want her to become truly faceless, and she can't do that without forgetting her past. Great episode. I had my apprehensions on how the writers would be able to do after running out of source material, but they seem to doing just fine.

Also Summer... :(.

Yes this is such a grey area at this point.
Can Bran just see the past which helps him sort things out in the present or helps him fight whitewalkers or as his actions have affected the events of the past.
Anyway, the Raven has made it clear that he can't change the paste but then even if Bran has affected the past in any which way it will be kind of an easy way out to solve every mystery
 
Great episode that. :( Hodor. Thought that end sequence was brilliant.

But the best bit of the episode was clearly Kevin Eldon playing Ned Stark as a thick northerner. :lol:
That entire play was really well done. You could see Arya has still not lost her identity of Arya Stark and become a 'no one'.
 
I really enjoyed that episode. Don't see aryas logic though, she is sent to watch a woman she will kill...sees her in a play that takes the piss out of her family and suddenly this woman is a "good person" in her eyes. There will be more to it than that.
Really don't want to see a walker Hodor :( that was so sad. Wonder if Theon and the others will try and go to dany first...
 
Saddest episode possibly since Ned's execution
Bran's present actions have been shaping the past. It's a bit Inception+ Interstellar of sorts. But why do Whitewalkers come looking for him? And Benjen Stark is still alive and beyond the wall right?
 
Nope Vale. Riverrun is where Robb is parked for most of Season 2 and Season 3.
Oh, thanks. I keep getting confused between them.

Yes this is such a grey area at this point.
Can Bran just see the past which helps him sort things out in the present or helps him fight whitewalkers or as his actions have affected the events of the past.
Anyway, the Raven has made it clear that he can't change the paste but then even if Bran has affected the past in any which way it will be kind of an easy way out to solve every mystery

Has Revan mentioned that he can't change the past ?? I just don't get the logic of the episode as well. I thought Bran needed to hold a branch of that tree to get flashbacks or something. I really hope they don't go down this route. Many people have already started suggesting the Mad King goes Mad because of Bran, which I really hope isn't true. That sort of story development would take a fair few episodes to execute as well and it will also involve looking at the character development for the mad king which is next to impossible at this stage.
 
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Has Revan mentioned that he can't change the past ?? I just don't get the logic of the episode as well. I thought Bran needed to hold a branch of that tree to get flashbacks or something. I really hope they don't go down this route. Many people have already started suggesting the Mad King goes Mad becomes of Bran, which I really hope isn't true. That sort of story development would take a fair few episodes to execute as well and it will also involve looking at the character development for the mad king which is next to impossible at this stage.
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Yes he has. There is a conversation between Bran and Revan, when Bran specifically asks him whats the use of this images if he can't do anything about it,I guess its during the young Ned's scene. Revan specifically says something on the lines "the past is written, the ink is dry..."
 
Has Revan mentioned that he can't change the past ?? I just don't get the logic of the episode as well. I thought Bran needed to hold a branch of that tree to get flashbacks or something. I really hope they don't go down this route. Many people have already started suggesting the Mad King goes Mad becomes of Bran, which I really hope isn't true. That sort of story development would take a fair few episodes to execute as well and it will also involve looking at the character development for the mad king which is next to impossible at this stage.
Yes he has. There is a conversation between Bran and Revan, when Bran specifically asks him whats the use of this images if he can't do anything about it,I guess its during the young Ned's scene. Revan specifically says something on the lines "the past is written, the ink is dry..."
Aah, ok. Cheers.