I don't really like the character. We've already had one mental evil delinquent. A more intimidating baddie is needed now.
Although, I imagine him taking on someone around his age on the battlefield soon makes sense.
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Although, I imagine him taking on someone around his age on the battlefield soon makes sense.
They haven't taken control of King's Landing. Jaime was in the Sept of Baelor, which is where they have the control.
Then how did they manage to capture the queen as well as king's mother, locking one up while parading the other around naked?
All of them were arrested in the Sept and are being kept there. Anyone can join the forces of the Faith and Cersei armed them in the first place. They basically had hostages. The Tyrell's and the Lannister's didn't want to provoke a war with the Faith, which could change in the upcoming episodes. It's better explained in the books though.
I think both of them were in the sept and Margery had that fake trial.
Yeah, but you'd think the King's mother and wife can't just be kidnapped and held that way. They even paraded Cersei around naked outdoors. I would have imagined the ruling family could do more than just quietly let this happen. They've got a army at King's landing at their disposal after all. I understand that the little King is mentally weak, but was he also sleeping all this time? All a bit strange.
Maybe my memory of last season is weak, but the whole thing appears very poorly explained to me.
The people of the city as you can see aren't particularly fond of the lannisters any way so theres no push from that side. Also the point that the king is very scared and inexperienced is a great explanation he had no one to advice him so he ran away from the issue like the little boy he is. That's why that scene with him and Jamie was great because you can see he had no idea what to do.
Also holy shit at the hodor back story. I think thats the story I'm most interested in now. What happened to him?
Nailed it.
Low risk, high reward prediction. Not impressed.Nailed it.
Same here, poor Willis. He's so loyal though.
I was almost in tears at the end of that episode.
We all knew it was coming but I thought it was going to be dragged out a bit longer than this. Glad that the writers didn't feck about.
I loved the flashback at the start with Bran. I hope we get more stuff like that. I have always hoped for some sort of prequel but I think that is probably the best I could get.
We all knew it was coming but I thought it was going to be dragged out a bit longer than this. Glad that the writers didn't feck about.
I loved the flashback at the start with Bran. I hope we get more stuff like that. I have always hoped for some sort of prequel but I think that is probably the best I could get.
There's no way in hell Ramsay's making it alive by the season's end.
I'll take it. I've got a feeling Cersei might die if something happens to Tommen. It doesn't feel like she has a purpose without her children and she's now lost two out of the three.
Ramsey can't survive the season, can he?
It would have been better if Jon Snow had stayed dead. I hate this kind of clichéd scripting and expect better from GoT.
There better be some kind of real consequences to his resurrection. If he's the same as he used to be, it'd a waste of a storyline.
There better be some kind of real consequences to his resurrection. If he's the same as he used to be, it'd a waste of a storyline.
Really? The King being weak is a "great" explanation? So priests and fellow fanatics can just pick up members of the Royal family and feck about with them at will, and it's seen as nothing out of the ordinary? Maybe I missed what the little King was doing while Queen and mother were being shat on. Were there any scenes where he told his guards not to act or something? In a logical universe, Jaimie would have just told the little boy to set the guards upon the reiglious fanatics and get the shit sorted ASAP.
I agree, this show has lost its balls and has done a Glenn from Walking Dead. Can't these characters be left dead rather than all this pandering to fan girls bollocks?
She said it'd be better to leave him as is. I have a feeling he's going to come back completely mental killing all of those who stabbed him - if he comes back forgiving all of them, it'd be a waste IMO.
Everyone saying they want Ghost to tear Olly to pieces but after that episode, there's only Wun Wun way he should die...
Do it, Wun Wun!
Do it, Wun Wun!
Yeah they can because there is no one there to stop them. The king is weak, Jamie wasn't around and can't do anything now as the faith have too much power in their area. They have the kings wife and they can't get her without risking her life.
How is it pandering when its been fore-shadowed as well as set up to happen in previous episodes? Its not like theres a silly explanation either, it was all leading up to this resurrection and was done well. Besides hes the only main character that has died to come back which makes sense. Every other character is final.
Two kills made me laugh. The Mountain one and the wun wun one (1 1 1)...
Tyrion and the dragons was a nice intense scene too. I like how the second dragon was in his face, and then just turned and was like "my turn".
Also the King being weak is a perfectly good explanation especially given his conversation with Cersei this weak how he just stood by doing nothing when in reality, he should have done something, or anything like she would have for him. Hence his cry for her to help make Tommen strong.
For me, that was one of the best top to bottom episodes weve had.
Two kills made me laugh. The Mountain one and the wun wun one (1 1 1)...
Tyrion and the dragons was a nice intense scene too. I like how the second dragon was in his face, and then just turned and was like "my turn".
Also the King being weak is a perfectly good explanation especially given his conversation with Cersei this weak how he just stood by doing nothing when in reality, he should have done something, or anything like she would have for him. Hence his cry for her to help make Tommen strong.
For me, that was one of the best top to bottom episodes weve had.
It was inevitable. We all knew he'd be back. It will be great to see the direction of the show now that he is alive. Technically he has died so he won't be bound to the Castle Black, but he will be for sure. My God, I can sense this season is going to be truly spectacular.
I must be one of the only ones who doesn't want Ramsey dead, because without him there is no antagonist that everyone hates. Not to mention I think his actor acts the role excellently.
I must be one of the only ones who doesn't want Ramsey dead, because without him there is no antagonist that everyone hates. Not to mention I think his actor acts the role excellently.
I think that HBO are considering doing some sort of show about how Robert Baratheon became King etc. All just rumours though.
Considering the amount of money this generates for HBO, I'd say a prequel/spin off is very likely when it ends.
You always had the feeling that Jon's story arc was unfinished though, so I don't think the show "lost its balls". It was just part of the story telling, and it's not like it was impossible because people had been resurrected on the show before - & as his and red lady's previous encounters showed - they've actually built up to this entire moment. It wasnt anywhere near Glenn's miraculous survival under a trash bin
Also, if I never read all the theories (mainly from book readers etc.) doing the rounds, I don't think his resurrection would have been "that obvious". It's just one of those things.
I have no idea why people are coming in to this thread and discussing the show in parallel to what could be happening in the next book, but please do stop. There's another thread on the same page for all that.
I've deleted the posts for now but threadbans will ensue if it continues.
I've deleted the posts for now but threadbans will ensue if it continues.
I understand why my post was deleted, but I know feck all about the book. All I said was that it's naive to think the show has brought Jon back to life just because the "fans" wanted to see it happen like someone suggested in this thread, especially when we've already seen this Dondarion guy resurrected a couple of seasons ago.
I guess I should have spoilered it as it could be perceived as some kind of speculation, though based on nothing at all. My bad.
I have no idea what my post had to do with the book either. Probably best to keep avoiding these overly strict threads -_-
Yours was more so cause it was in reference to the other one which no longer existed. Without that post you looked like you were talking to yourself.
I was doing it to protect you. You're welcome.
The point is that he was already alive just a few episodes ago. His death looks as though it was introduced purely to have a cliff-hanger at the end of last season and now we're meant to carry on like nothing happened. I really hope I'm wrong, though. I don't want GoT to become like every other show that keeps its stars on screen at all costs.
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next episode's promo. It's called 'Oathbreaker'.
next episode's promo. It's called 'Oathbreaker'.
This episode looks fantastic just from the promo
next episode's promo. It's called 'Oathbreaker'.
Who do we think the 'gift' is that Ramsay gets (assuming it's a person)? I can'think of anyone that it could be.
Yeah, has to be a person, first thought is obviously Theon but that doesn't seem right. Littlefinger? Haven't seen him in a while. Osha and the other stark kid from years ago?
Rickon is my guess.
Think there was a bit of foreshadowing of Ramsay dying to Ghost too when Roose was talking about him being fed to the dogs.
Thought he said he'd be pig feed? And referred to him as a mad dog?
Must be Rickon, there's an Umber flag. Could be him but I am not entirely sure. Wouldn't really care if he died tbh, not really relevant to the plot right now but I am guessing he could be later on because of Shaggy Dog
A very good episode. Some of the moments were very predictable, but still very well done. I was about to suggest that Snow would live only to die in the next frame or episode but then the Episode 3 promo pretty much ruled that out.
I hope Ramsay lasts long though, I think the show would lose a lot without him. Proper nutter, very different to Joffrey and possibly even worse than him.
To be honest, more than the Snow storyline, I am just glad to see Bran back. That has got to really take off this season. More and more visions, closer to discovering something devastating I reckon. Arya's just seems like a regurgitation of last season, only slightly faster and a different setting. I am not quite sure what they are getting at. I was excited at first, but I am just not so sure anymore.
I find it a bit weird that Theon feels he doesn't deserve forgiveness yet wants to go back to the Iron islands. I didn't know much about the greyjoys and thought they were mentioned in the previous seasons, but it seems they weren't. None of them look like strong characters though. Wouldn't expect them to last too long.
And Tyrion..., you never disappoint....Seems like the season is geared up for a Rocky moment with Tyrion probably ending up riding the ugly one in the end. So that's two down.
Btw, Martell haters got their wish!!
Also, not sure if I should Spoiler all this or not since these are all just my own speculations.
I hope Ramsay lasts long though, I think the show would lose a lot without him. Proper nutter, very different to Joffrey and possibly even worse than him.
To be honest, more than the Snow storyline, I am just glad to see Bran back
. That has got to really take off this season. More and more visions, closer to discovering something devastating I reckon. Arya's just seems like a regurgitation of last season, only slightly faster and a different setting. I am not quite sure what they are getting at. I was excited at first, but I am just not so sure anymore.I find it a bit weird that Theon feels he doesn't deserve forgiveness yet wants to go back to the Iron islands. I didn't know much about the greyjoys and thought they were mentioned in the previous seasons, but it seems they weren't. None of them look like strong characters though. Wouldn't expect them to last too long.
And Tyrion...
, you never disappoint....Seems like the season is geared up for a Rocky moment with Tyrion probably ending up riding the ugly one in the end. So that's two down.Btw, Martell haters got their wish!!
Also, not sure if I should Spoiler all this or not since these are all just my own speculations.
next episode's promo. It's called 'Oathbreaker'.
Who is the blondie?
Neil Patrick Harris ?
I think based on episode 2, I am guessing Ned as a teen in his first battle.