Television Game of Thrones (TV) • The watch has ended

I don't get all the love for Stannis on here. He's such a nothing character. Could care less if he dies, which seems kinda inevitable.

I think it's because recently he has come across as one of the more fitting rulers, especially when you've went from the sadistic Joffrey to the wimpy Tommen, with supercunt Cersei always around...

Also he was a nice bloke to good guy Snow and is marching towards arguably the most hated villain in the show right now.

So I guess saying that we can expect him to either get fecked up shortly, or do something horrible (like sacrifice his daughter) so we can all hate him.
 
Much much better episode, the story moved forward and I really liked the last few minutes with The High septon talking to Cersei. Things are really getting interesting now. That pair though .... Highlight of the episode for me.
 
...well at least Tyrion made it to Dany and it didn't take an entire season. And while I'm glad Bronn isn't going to die yet(and poison from that fight would have been such a shit way for such a good character to go), why did that sand snake just decide to give him an antidote? Even while giving us some great boobage they annoy me. Also curse this programme for not being more brightly lit.
 
That was a bit dull. Things happened I know, but nothing really exciting/wasn't obvious. Dany is just so fecking boring, hopefully Tyrion will make her story more interesting. How can she have dragons and still be this boring? Unreal.

Also, Stannis not wanting to sacrifice his daughter was good obviously, but think it makes it obvious what will happen to him.

The scene with the Dorne girl was pretty good. She shot up in my estimation.... But why did she let him live? What's the point?

She wants to do him ?
 
Good episode. I don't think Dany is going to like Tyrion too much for some reason.

Cersei is a fecking idiot.

Olenna is boss.

The sparrow shite can feck themselves.

The Dorne scene were sexy (the short haired girl), and funny (how the other sisters were going like "she's going to use her big tits again")
 
Those tits were the highlight of the season by a long stretch

I still don't think it was a great episode. Maybe I have been turned off the show by how poor the season has been.
 
The first half was what's made the show worse this season imo. Weak characters being pushed around in important situations and important characters doing nothing.

The second half though was the best this season. The scene in the prison made those sisters kinda interesting and Bronn was cool as always. The gladiator scene was good as Tyrion finally gave us a chance of enjoying Daenaerys' storyline. The final scene was brilliant. That High Sparrow is arguably the most powerful man in King's Landing now.

That's what makes Game of Thrones great. Good characters in important situations with a good, developing storyline where we don't know what's going to happen. As opposed to boring ones being kicked around. In hindsight, they needed to build up some of these story lines which is fair enough but I still don't get the focus on Sam, Sansa and Arya given them having little to do.
 
Do the religious nuts have actual power or just implied power? I mean, if Tommen actually went with the nuclear option, would there be any doubt to the outcome?
And they have come out of nowhere this season? I haven't missed anything have I?

Does this mean they could have pissed all over Jofrey or Robert like this? It just doesn't seem likely at all
 
And they have come out of nowhere this season? I haven't missed anything have I?

Does this mean they could have pissed all over Jofrey or Robert like this? It just doesn't seem likely at all

I think they are new-ish. Remember that Cersei didn't even know who their leader was originally. And Lancelot was a character in previous seasons but not as a religious nut.
 
Do the religious nuts have actual power or just implied power? I mean, if Tommen actually went with the nuclear option, would there be any doubt to the outcome?
Didn't the high priest guy basically claim to Grandma Tyrell there's a lot more of us (poor people) than you (high born royalty feckers)? Which made me think but hasn't that always been the case?
 
Do the religious nuts have actual power or just implied power? I mean, if Tommen actually went with the nuclear option, would there be any doubt to the outcome?

Well Cersei seemed to imply to Tommen that if he sent his army to get the nuts then they would kill the prisoners.
 
Hes a weak king so it was always going to happen. Theres still a trial to come right?

As for why Bronn was allowed to live (given the antidote) maybe we will find out next episode? Maybe we will get an explanation? Maybe they want to use him. Or maybe she just fancies him.
 
Didn't the high priest guy basically claim to Grandma Tyrell there's a lot more of us (poor people) than you (high born royalty feckers)? Which made me think but hasn't that always been the case?

I took that as more of a counter to her saying she would stop sending food to King's Landing, saying that there would be an uprising if she was to do that and that is the last thing the powerful want.

As for the sparrows, I think it was mentioned they had previously been in a position of power but had lost it until Cersei reinstated them.
 
Do the religious nuts have actual power or just implied power? I mean, if Tommen actually went with the nuclear option, would there be any doubt to the outcome?

They were given a small army and weapons by Cercei and because they now feed and look after the poor and appear to offer them hope I think their numbers and influence are greater than what has been shown on screen.
 
From what I gather, the only reason the religious nuts have any power is cuz Tommen is a weak King and was tricked into arming them by Cersei. So now because they outnumber the King's guard they're running things. Whole thing is silly. These poor, untrained hippies are in charge now cuz there's more of them and they have swords. :wenger:
 
Do the religious nuts have actual power or just implied power? I mean, if Tommen actually went with the nuclear option, would there be any doubt to the outcome?
I think they have people power. They seem to appeal to the normal folk more than the lords and ladies. In a few episodes they seem to show the people of kings landing arent hugely happy with the royals.
 
Do the religious nuts have actual power or just implied power? I mean, if Tommen actually went with the nuclear option, would there be any doubt to the outcome?
He already "tried" to speak with High Sparrow using force - and the most noticeable thing about that scene was that the people at the back shouted "bastard" at the king and there was no question about where their allegiances lie. So he can be looking at the revolution here, lead by religious fanatics, if he will call the army.
 
The Sparrows have power now as there has just been a war. Remember the poor were starving in Kings Landing in the last couple of seasons, as the crown is in debt and Westeros has been ravaged as a result of the civil war. The people have turned to religion. Their numbers and influence have grown dramatically as a result of this.
 
They were given a small army and weapons by Cercei and because they now feed and look after the poor and appear to offer them hope I think their numbers and influence are greater than what has been shown on screen.

I think that's right. The High Sparrow gained popularity by helping the poor while the royal families were pissing away fortunes and lives on wars started by Joeffrey. The crown are hated (I remember the scene where the crowd was insulting Tommen) while he's popular. This has probably happened before but then Cersei, the tool, gave them weapons and let them imprison the queen. She's armed a bunch of religious zealots she can't control who are now running the capital basically (they've the Queens and House Tyrell's heir imprisoned and no one else would have the guts to destroy Littlefingers place).

Tommen can't move against them because his wife and mother would be killed, the Tyrells would blame him and his family for it and the entire city would rise up to defend their religious heroes against the corrupt king. I think he's the first character to use the people in Kings Landing to gain control.
 
One interesting thing of note was Sansa's reaction when she found out that Jon Snow was still alive and became the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. I feel that he's still got a big part to play in the showdown at Winterfell. I remember him being close to his half-siblings (especially Arya and Robb Stark), but don't recall what his relationship with Sansa was like. Was she not very fond of him similar to her mother?
 
One interesting thing of note was Sansa's reaction when she found out that Jon Snow was still alive and became the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. I feel that he's still got a big part to play in the showdown at Winterfell. I remember him being close to his half-siblings (especially Arya and Robb Stark), but don't recall what his relationship with Sansa was like. Was she not very fond of him similar to her mother?

She didn't like him very much.
 
Sansa and her whole storyline is boring. Was funny when some people thought she would change and start controlling Ramsey.

Decent episode overall, but it had some weak points. Not a great season so far, feels like it needs something major to happen to kick it into life.
 
Hard to believe Tommen is Tywin's grandson, raised by bastards like Robert and Cersei and Joffrey's brother. Even his sister has more fight than him. Truly lost the genetic lottery.
 
Hard to believe Tommen is Tywin's grandson, raised by bastards like Robert and Cersei and Joffrey's brother. Even his sister has more fight than him. Truly lost the genetic lottery.
If he followed his genetic code, he'd be plowing his sister Myrcella.
 
Has any other character except Aemon died from natural causes / old age?
 
What happened to Bran Stark?? I can't even remember when his last episode was.. He didn't die did he?