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I don't think Game of Thrones season 5 is as good as the other 4 seasons at the point in time. Anyone else think that?
Not really, you cant have a red wedding in every episode. There are a lot of strands at the moment, but i think all of them have been very interesting.
 
I watched the first 4 episodes in one go and instantly forgot about them the day after, except for some of the cringey parts, like that one.

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This season start has been miles better than the start of season 4 so far - probably better than season 3 too... stuff is actually happening and arch's progressing this season, lots of season 4 was people just spinning their wheels until the "big episodes" - but then the big episodes usually contained not much and a big ending bar the last two episodes.

Having said that, thought this was the weakest episode so far for me... not much really developed that we didn't already know about, and yeah there was blood and boobs (so not that I'm complaining) and someone fairly prominent died, if you actually looked at what developed, there was nothing all that new bar Sir Loris getting arrested and the Sparrow's going a bit wild.

Bit weird 'cos all I heard before this was that it's the best episode of the series so far... but then, I guess when you kill someone at the end, people are generally going to say it's a great episode.
 
Having just rewatched Season 3 and half way through Season 4, I agree with AN. Theres more development so far this Season, characters being taken out of their comfort zone and developing nicely. Ive really enjoyed it so far.
 
The season has been the worst of any so far IMO

The acting with those women vowing to start a war against the Lanisters was hilarious too

Yeah, that was probably the worst (and funniest) part of the whole season so far - when that one las went on a big monologue about when she was a kid and Oberyn gave her a spear or something, all I could think was... a simple yes or no would really suffice here.

This just wasn't a great episode - but the season as a whole has been very good. Look at the landscape now compared to the end of S4... it's a massively different world because things are actually happening.
 
This season start has been miles better than the start of season 4 so far - probably better than season 3 too... stuff is actually happening and arch's progressing this season, lots of season 4 was people just spinning their wheels until the "big episodes" - but then the big episodes usually contained not much and a big ending bar the last two episodes.

Having said that, thought this was the weakest episode so far for me... not much really developed that we didn't already know about, and yeah there was blood and boobs (so not that I'm complaining) and someone fairly prominent died, if you actually looked at what developed, there was nothing all that new bar Sir Loris getting arrested and the Sparrow's going a bit wild.

Bit weird 'cos all I heard before this was that it's the best episode of the series so far... but then, I guess when you kill someone at the end, people are generally going to say it's a great episode.
Didnt think it was that weak, Cersei seems to have opened a can of worms with the sparrows. Meanwhile things are kicking off in Mereen.

I also think that Littlefinger seems to have completely missed the fact that Ramsey is a twisted maniac.
 
Didnt think it was that weak, Cersei seems to have opened a can of worms with the sparrows. Meanwhile things are kicking off in Mereen.

I also think that Littlefinger seems to have completely missed the fact that Ramsey is a twisted maniac.

We sort of knew those things already.

Also, there's no way Littlefinger could know Ramsey is a twisted maniac is there? Not like he's been around him that much.
 
We sort of knew those things already.

Also, there's no way Littlefinger could know Ramsey is a twisted maniac is there? Not like he's been around him that much.
Maybe not, although he should have a reputation by now. Didnt he recently skin a whole family alive to get their sons loyalty?
 
Maybe not, although he should have a reputation by now. Didnt he recently skin a whole family alive to get their sons loyalty?
I really hope it doesn't go down the route of Sansa's life being made absolute hell by another psychopath. There's only so much one person can take. Plus it will start to get dull if it happens again, which is what makes me think things will start to pick up for her and Ramsey will get what's coming to him.
 
Well Reek has been avoiding showing his face to Sansa (well the one time he saw her). I could see something happening though between them given he lived with the Starks right? Then again, he burned her brothers alive (well thats the impression he tried to give off even though it wasnt them) lol.

Ive liked this season so far because its interesting. Its given characters like Stannis and Sansa (who werent really interesting before this season) a point of being there. It all looks like its building for three or four different areas and for the different characters to have the conflict you would expect.
 
I really hope it doesn't go down the route of Sansa's life being made absolute hell by another psychopath. There's only so much one person can take. Plus it will start to get dull if it happens again, which is what makes me think things will start to pick up for her and Ramsey will get what's coming to him.
It looks like Sansa is much more mature and stronger this season. Im very much hoping that between her, Littlefinger, Reek and Stannis, that Ramsey will meet a sticky end this season.
 
There were a couple of really nice moments in an otherwise forgettable episode.

1. The way Jamie wistfully looked out on the Sapphire Isle/Tarth.

2. The speech Stannis gave to his daughter was so sweet. Like, honestly, so sweet. He comes across as this cold, insensitive, heartless human being (we were introduced to his character by people being burnt at a stake), but he has a good soul. He's tried to be lenient, moreso than other people in power.

Other good moments:

3. 'You know nothing, Jon Snow' - that was epic.

4. Jamie saving his life with his metallic hand - loved that bit too.

Otherwise, it was pretty dry.

Also, I have totally, totally, forgotten the storyline with Leanna Stark/Barathean. You know - the statue Sansa was lighting candles for. She was Ned's sister, who married Robert B? And then she got killed by the Mad King? Can someone remind me? (Sorry). I'd do a google but I don't want to see possible book spoilers.
 
There were a couple of really nice moments in an otherwise forgettable episode.

1. The way Jamie wistfully looked out on the Sapphire Isle/Tarth.

2. The speech Stannis gave to his daughter was so sweet. Like, honestly, so sweet. He comes across as this cold, insensitive, heartless human being (we were introduced to his character by people being burnt at a stake), but he has a good soul. He's tried to be lenient, moreso than other people in power.

Other good moments:

3. 'You know nothing, Jon Snow' - that was epic.

4. Jamie saving his life with his metallic hand - loved that bit too.

Otherwise, it was pretty dry.

Also, I have totally, totally, forgotten the storyline with Leanna Stark/Barathean. You know - the statue Sansa was lighting candles for. She was Ned's sister, who married Robert B? And then she got killed by the Mad King? Can someone remind me? (Sorry). I'd do a google but I don't want to see possible book spoilers.

She's Caitlin's sister, Ned's first wife. Who was kidnapped and killed by the mad king. This caused Ned and Robert B to start the war and defeat the Taygaerians.
 
She's Caitlin's sister, Ned's first wife. Who was kidnapped and killed by the mad king. This caused Ned and Robert B to start the war and defeat the Taygaerians.
She was Ned's sister who was promised to Robert Baratheon. Almost :)

And it was Mad King's son that kidnapped and raped her iirc
 
I think some people are being harsh on the latest episode and season as a whole. It's not been the best season of the lot, but the standard is very high. Last season started with a bang in contrast and that's what people remember, but it slowed down for a while after that. This season will end with a bang, I reckon.
 
She was Ned's sister who was promised to Robert Baratheon. Almost :)

And it was Mad King's son that kidnapped and raped her iirc

Thanks, and @Andy_Cole.

Ok. So that story Baelish was telling Sansa...Raygar Targaryan threw his flowers at her because he fancied her, and even though she was betrothed to Robert B, or married, he raped and killed her. This led to Ned and Robert forming an alliance and killing the Mad King? Is that correct?
 
I think some people are being harsh on the latest episode and season as a whole. It's not been the best season of the lot, but the standard is very high. Last season started with a bang in contrast and that's what people remember, but it slowed down for a while after that. This season will end with a bang, I reckon.
Yeah, I don't think it's been particularly worse than the last three seasons.
 
Ok. So that story Baelish was telling Sansa...Raygar Targaryan threw his flowers at her because he fancied her, and even though she was betrothed to Robert B, or married, he raped and killed her. This led to Ned and Robert forming an alliance and killing the Mad King? Is that correct?
Yeah, as I understood it. It was probably the last straw, with the Mad King being, you know, mad, burning people all around him and stuff.

I hope we hear more about this Raygar - I'm sure that there is more to this story about raping/kidnapping, it's always like this in GoT. He is actively being portrayed as a nice guy by Sir Barriston across the sea, for example, I'm sure that they are building up for some shocking revealing
 
Do you guys remember the scene where Jon wasn't burn by fire? I can't remember the episode but it was an earlier season. That's when I started to speculate that he must have been Targaryen.
 
Do you guys remember the scene where Jon wasn't burn by fire? I can't remember the episode but it was an earlier season. That's when I started to speculate that he must have been Targaryen.

Honestly, no idea what scene you are talking about. Which season was it?
 
Do you guys remember the scene where Jon wasn't burn by fire? I can't remember the episode but it was an earlier season. That's when I started to speculate that he must have been Targaryen.

He did burn his hand though didn't he? And his hair colour is completely wrong, they've made a point of using hair colour to tell us Cersei's kids aren't Baratheon.
 
I feel like this season has been more fast paced, things are happening quicker and I think the show is actively trying to diverge away from the books by going their own route.
 
You seem to enjoy trolling this thread. Perhaps you would be happier if you spent this time and energy back in the Mad Men thread discussing Don's complicated love affair with a complicated woman #1426.

He's being doing this since season three. I used to lurk the GoT thread when I was in the newbs and his constant drive by troll posts never got called out.
 
Honestly, no idea what scene you are talking about. Which season was it?
He did burn his hand though didn't he? And his hair colour is completely wrong, they've made a point of using hair colour to tell us Cersei's kids aren't Baratheon.
When Jon fought that Wight to save his commander. He grabbed a lamp, I just rewatched -- he actually burned his hand when he threw it at the wight. I must be confused so never mind.
 
You seem to enjoy trolling this thread. Perhaps you would be happier if you spent this time and energy back in the Mad Men thread discussing Don's complicated love affair with a complicated woman #1426.

A good chunk of what he says is right. You don't have to be a fan boy to post here.
 
Jon Snow Birth Speculation/theory...

Just had an interesting idea pop in my head. We know that Ned was an honourable man... what if Jon wasn't actually Neds child but his sister's Leannes? That would make Littlefingers chat to Sansa in the crypt mean something. So what if Jon Snow is in fact Leannes and Rhaegars son? Leanne fearing for her son's safety asks Ned to adopt him as his bastard knowing that Jon would then be safe in Winterfell. That also makes sense given how reluctant Ned was to talk about his mother and his out of character it was for him to have a bastard in the first place.

Rhaegar was Daenryis older brother and Leanne was Neds dead sister (the one Rob Barath went to war over).
Yeah that is one of the popular theories on Jon. It makes sense to me as well. Ned wouldn't dishonour his marriage and had he told Jon was Rhaegar's son he probably would have been killed, like the other two children that Rhaegar had with Elia. Also, Targaryen's always comes in triplets - e.g. Rhaegar, Viserys and Danaerys. Their sigil has three dragon heads. In season 2, Danaerys at the House of the Undying had a vision which pointed to the same.

But even if that is true, how will anyone know of it? Quite possibly only Ned knew that secret.
 
did @Pexbo really just spoil the show for himself by googling someone else's theory? :lol:

I just googled the names, which to be fair there's 1000 characters so I have to do that all the time. Not my fault he's posting stuff that isn't even in the show yet!
 
He did burn his hand though didn't he? And his hair colour is completely wrong, they've made a point of using hair colour to tell us Cersei's kids aren't Baratheon.
Silver hair is a Targaryen trait, but usually Targaryen's marry within their own house, and so the features remain the same. In this case it is a Stark and a Targaryen, so it's not the same as others.

This is possibly the only case where a Targaryen had a child with someone outside the house.