Fair enough, that also makes sense.
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Fair enough, that also makes sense.
Have we had book readers in here spoiling shit again? I think we need another burning.
The spoiler Theowhatever left was actually the one I read in the book thread by mistake last week. I have no idea why he thought it would be a good idea to post it in this thread.
I've watched episode nine twice and haven't seen any reference to Ramsay... I'm going to skim through it again.
I've watched episode nine twice and haven't seen any reference to Ramsay... I'm going to skim through it again.
Oh at the very start.
The thing that annoyed me the most was how they managed to set the fire off seemingly all at the same time, rather than burning 1 tent at a time. It's obviously just 1 of those things that is done for TV, otherwise it'll be too long and drawn out.
How bad are stannis' scouts aswell
Going to be interesting how they tie it all togrther, I wish they had more than 10 episodes a season as it feels like some of the story is rushed to cram it all in. Love the show though, can't wait to see what the future holds.
How bad are stannis' scouts aswell
Going to be interesting how they tie it all togrther, I wish they had more than 10 episodes a season as it feels like some of the story is rushed to cram it all in. Love the show though, can't wait to see what the future holds.
Lets be honest it was complete nonsense. There was probably a conversation that went something like
Weiss: Right gang, it's episode 9, we need something to get people to #OMG on twitter
Benioff: How about Rape?
Weiss: I like your thinking... but we went to that well already this season, we might need to change it up a bit
Benioff: ... Dragon Rape?
Weiss: ....... I'll get back to you...
Writer: I know! We can kill someone! People always think its awesome when we kill people... because they die, and nobody dies on tv... so its cool! people will love it.
Weiss: Hmmm... Well we already killed Sean Connery this year, so it needs to be a good one...
Writer: Child death! That'll put the shit up them! How about that kid on the wall... erm, Oni? Ori?
Weiss: Oh you mean Ozzy. No, people will actually like that... let's kill Stannis' kid...
Writer: .... But why would he want to kill someone he's expressively told us he loves unquestionably, that he would, and has in the past, done anything to keep alive? Not only that, but she's the last of his blood line, and the heir to the throne he's trying to win....
Weiss: Erm.... because he's desperate?
Writer: Why is he desperate? He has loads of men, he's the greatest commander in Westeros! I mean we already flirted with the idea that he's an idiot by making him march down in the snow in the first place...
Weiss: Well... super Ramsay's going to start a fire and shit. Yeah, that'll make him desperate
Writer: .... How the feck's he going to do that?
Weiss: Stop getting bogged down in specifics... he's desperate, they kill the kid, done.
Benioff: And then she gets raped. Top stuff.
Weiss: Right gang, it's episode 9, we need something to get people to #OMG on twitter
Benioff: How about Rape?
Weiss: I like your thinking... but we went to that well already this season, we might need to change it up a bit
Benioff: ... Dragon Rape?
Weiss: ....... I'll get back to you...
Writer: I know! We can kill someone! People always think its awesome when we kill people... because they die, and nobody dies on tv... so its cool! people will love it.
Weiss: Hmmm... Well we already killed Sean Connery this year, so it needs to be a good one...
Writer: Child death! That'll put the shit up them! How about that kid on the wall... erm, Oni? Ori?
Weiss: Oh you mean Ozzy. No, people will actually like that... let's kill Stannis' kid...
Writer: .... But why would he want to kill someone he's expressively told us he loves unquestionably, that he would, and has in the past, done anything to keep alive? Not only that, but she's the last of his blood line, and the heir to the throne he's trying to win....
Weiss: Erm.... because he's desperate?
Writer: Why is he desperate? He has loads of men, he's the greatest commander in Westeros! I mean we already flirted with the idea that he's an idiot by making him march down in the snow in the first place...
Weiss: Well... super Ramsay's going to start a fire and shit. Yeah, that'll make him desperate
Writer: .... How the feck's he going to do that?
Weiss: Stop getting bogged down in specifics... he's desperate, they kill the kid, done.
Benioff: And then she gets raped. Top stuff.
By the way was there a close up of Theon's face in the camp after all the shit had gone down or was it just the quality of the completely legal TV reception I was getting?
I don't get this tbh. Aren't they following the books? It's not like they're inventing stuff, or are they?
Apparently the Sansa rape was not in the book but the ritualistic child immolation will be in the next book. GRRM told the producers of how the whole series ends in case he dies.
The TV show is not strictly following the books anymore.
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Can we please get spoiler tags on the Abraham discussion? Some of us haven't got to that bit yet. Jeez.
OK i swear I posted a comment about books readers being miffed about episode 9 in this thread, but I've been quoted in my post appears in the book thread. Was my post migrated? Or did i accidentally post in the wrong thread.
I was reading replies thinking I was amongst viewers of the show and had no idea I was in the other thread. Thankfully I never saw anything else.
I was reading replies thinking I was amongst viewers of the show and had no idea I was in the other thread. Thankfully I never saw anything else.
here's a novel idea, just stop talking about the fecking books
Why did Jon Snow decide to land on the other side of the wall?
Plus you would think that the food and siege weapons would be the most heavily guarded things in the camp. So these 20 men managed to evade all the guards while starting fires (would be quite difficult in such conditions you would think)...a bit too ridiculous.
We should have a separate thread where people can pretend they havent read the books or book/wiki spoilers, but not in the actual book thread
Yeah I would've flipped my lid if they didnt open the gates. Just sail around the wall!
What's he done with the boats? The white walkers don't seem stupid, can't they now sail to the mainland?
Exactly what I was thinking. That girl at the brothel really played the role well, the fear in her eyes made me look away. Sickening.
Here's a new topic... what is the worst acting performance to have taken place on the show?
For me it's this head sand snake woman (Google tells me her name is Ellaria Sand) ... whoever is playing her is doing a dreadful job (true the writing/story is also garbage... but still).
For me it's this head sand snake woman (Google tells me her name is Ellaria Sand) ... whoever is playing her is doing a dreadful job (true the writing/story is also garbage... but still).
When Sir friendzone saw the dragon. There was such a gulf in class between his reaction to it and tyrions amazing reaction.
Even though I know the jokey reference my inner nerd/pedant feels the need to point out that he has previously been acquainted with the dragons.
Pointless post, this. Work is fun today.
All in all I think we need about 4 different threads:
One solely for book readers
One solely for tv watchers
One for wiki people
One for people who haven't watched it
That would clean up the entertainment forum too, keep it all in 4 threads
I think a GoT subsection is required. Those threads plus
one for viewers who want to know the differences between book and TV based on whats happened so far
One thread for future casting
One thread for theories
:P
Also the only issue i had with ramsey and 20 men, was how all tents went up in flames at the same time. How did 20 men pull that off and manage to do as much damage as they did? It would be great if next week we see the Boltons back together and you actually see people who were moles within Stannis camp that allowed this to happen. I agree with Stannis, thats the only way it would have happened give they surely had guards at night watching (and scouts) unless they were picked off Jack Bauer style.
Yeah, I thought that as well. Fires going off at the same time all around the camp doesn't really make much sense.
Annihilate Now is having a mare in this thread. Absolute rubbish.
Oh no, how will I cope.
When the screen pans out at that tent bit, I'm sure you see a few men running away. I assumed they were Ramsay's lot as it was before the major panic set in.
Weren't they just people running away from the fires?
Maybe it was fire arrows n ting?
I'll have to watch again, but there was a definitely a small group of people around the top of the tents not on fire who looked like the were sneaking off. I could well be wrong on that though.
It's the limitations of the TV show I feel. Stannis went from loving his daughter to burning her at the stake in a matter of hours. Whereas in the books it will probably be covered over the course of 100's of pages, many of which will probably give us more insight into his thought processes.
I haven't read the books yet but throughout the entire series I've thought to myself "That happened suddenly". The Sparrows and Sons of the Harpy are big ones this season for me. The sparrows went from a few bald peasants to armed militant in the space of one montage, and the Sons of the Harpy just kinda appeared from nowhere as a massive threat. I didn't (and still don't) have any real appreciation for how powerful they are or how much of a threat they pose, so sometimes it just seems a little dumb and makes you question things. Like how the feck do a bunch of guys in masks cause so much trouble for an elite trained army? Are the faith militant really a threat to the crown in their numbers now? I mean I can hazard a guess at those things but the show has always felt like a book adaption from the start in the sense I can tell there is so much more depth to the story and characters that we aren't getting.
I don't understand how so many people keep going on about the unsullied. Irregular warfare is not a new thing.
How did the bunch of peasants cause trouble for an elite trained army (British Army) in India, Ireland etc? Guerilla warfare. The unsullid aren't trained in said warfare, this is bascially their first foray in combat, and they're failing.
I dunno, people have found ways of co-ordinating attacks for hundreds of years, I'm sure there's a way of doing it. If nothing else the first fire that gets set would be a signal to the rest.
On the Unsullied - whytf would you fight with a spear? It's so impractical. Spears are for throwing, not for close hand to hand combat.
The Macedonian Empire, Spartans and Ancient Mongolians didn't do too badly with them.
Those empires had more than just spears.
To my knowledge, the Unsullied are meant to be based off the Spartans, but the Spartans had 2 swords on their attire aswell.
Why don't they just use guns?
Their primary weapons were spears (well in the case of the Macedonians and Spartans). They'd use them in close quarters combat quite comfortably and expertly, though granted the average fighter would probably be more comfortable with a sword.
Because its fictional Westeros, not Detroit.