Gabriel Obertan | 2010/11 Performances

[Sir A1ex]

He's not even convincing me he knows how to use the bloody thing in that photo

If you watch the video carefully, I think what happens is:

He suddenly has a brilliant and visionary idea of two songs to segue together. But in trying to select the new track, he loses control of his thumb, which goes far too fast and ends up several albums too far ahead of his brain, while his left hand, totally of it's own accord, changes the song he's already listening too.

This means he ends up listening to James Blunt mixing into The Wanted, so he takes off the headphones and puts in a transfer request.

 

[a_devil_inside]

it could have been match commentary but still should focus on watching the match

 

[B Cantona]

Whatsup...you having a bad day or something.

I love a good whinge

And the modern day footballer gives me so much ammunition to do so its untrue

 

[Top]

Big drama queens. Obertan has been at the club for nearly 2 years, it's not like this is the first time he's sat next to Ryan Giggs.

I'm not sure if you're joking or not, Dan, as it is pretty ridiculous to get upset at Obertan for not talking to Ryan Giggs at the exact moment the camera zoomed in on them.
Sure, had it been us, who got a chance to sit next to Giggs for a day, then we would bug the shit out of him, but to expect Obertan to ask Giggs questions 24/7 because he hasn't performed on the pitch is overreacting on a new level.

I don't watch football while listening to music, but I don't expect others to be like me. If Obertan wants to listen to music and change track every now and again, then he should be allowed to, no matter who he sits next to.

Storm in a tea cup.

 

[Sir A1ex]

Who listens to commentary on a match they are sitting watching... with Ryan Giggs next to them?

 

[Red Defence]

I love a good whinge.
And the modern day footballer gives me so much ammunition to do so its untrue

Have you tried cleaning the bathroom instead?

Much more productive and gets rid of all that angst.

Sex might also work if you don't fancy cleaning.

 

[ciderman9000000]

he should be bugging Giggs every second, wtf?!

 

[Sir A1ex]

I don't watch football while listening to music, but I don't expect others to be like me. If Obertan wants to listen to music and change track every now and again, then he should be allowed to, no matter who he sits next to.

He is allowed to, but it doesn't imply the presence of the sort of "take every chance to learn and go the extra mile to develop your game" attitude that is required if you want to make it at United.

There's no way Obertan couldn't learn valuable lessons about the game from Giggs, but he's not even giving himself the chance.

To be fair, I think this is typical of a lot of young footballer these days - sense of entitlement 'n all that.

 

[ciderman9000000]

Who listens to commentary on a match they are sitting watching... with Ryan Giggs next to them?

shut up!

 

[wr8_utd]

Big drama queens. Obertan has been at the club for nearly 2 years, it's not like this is the first time he's sat next to Ryan Giggs.

I'm not sure if you're joking or not, Dan, as it is pretty ridiculous to get upset at Obertan for not talking to Ryan Giggs at the exact moment the camera zoomed in on them.
Sure, had it been us, who got a chance to sit next to Giggs for a day, then we would bug the shit out of him, but to expect Obertan to ask Giggs questions 24/7 because he hasn't performed on the pitch is overreacting on a new level.

I don't watch football while listening to music, but I don't expect others to be like me. If Obertan wants to listen to music and change track every now and again, then he should be allowed to, no matter who he sits next to.

Storm in a tea cup.

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[Sir A1ex]

shut up!

So you'd rather hear Alan Green's thoughts on the match? Each to their own!

 

[Top]

There's no way Obertan couldn't learn valuable lessons about the game from Giggs, but he's not even giving himself the chance.

You're thinking waaaaay too black/white Dan. I honestly thought you were joking at first.

How do you know that Obertan isn't regularly asking Giggs questions and looking at his movement in training? You don't.

You can't honestly make a conclusion based on 5 seconds of footage.

 

[ciderman9000000]

He is allowed to, but it doesn't imply the presence of the sort of "take every chance to learn and go the extra mile to develop your game" attitude that is required if you want to make it at United.

There's no way Obertan couldn't learn valuable lessons about the game from Giggs, but he's not even giving himself the chance.

To be fair, I think this is typical of a lot of young footballer these days - sense of entitlement 'n all that.

Well why isn't Giggs bugging SAF? Does Giggs think he's got nothing left to learn?! Sack Giggs, sell Obertan!

 

[wr8_utd]

He is allowed to, but it doesn't imply the presence of the sort of "take every chance to learn and go the extra mile to develop your game" attitude that is required if you want to make it at United.

There's no way Obertan couldn't learn valuable lessons about the game from Giggs, but he's not even giving himself the chance.

To be fair, I think this is typical of a lot of young footballer these days - sense of entitlement 'n all that.

He could be taking valuable lessons on the training ground you know?

 

[ciderman9000000]

This is fecking ridiculous, you loons.

 

[ciderman9000000]

How do we know that Giggs hasn't told them both to shut up and stop bugging him?

 

[Sir A1ex]

You're thinking waaaaay too black/white Dan. I honestly thought you were joking at first.

How do you know that Obertan isn't regularly asking Giggs questions and looking at his movement in training? You don't.

You can't honestly make a conclusion based on 5 seconds of footage.

I was exagerating about constantly bugging him, but I do think that listening to his ipod just shows that it's not even occurred to him that he could be using the experience more constructively.

OK, we all experience things differently, but I just can't see how listening to music while watching football is anything but a distraction.
I can't think of any time that I or anybody I've ever met or heard of listens to music for reasons other than:
a) to help make an otherwise dull experience more endurable - eg a journey
b) as an end to itself, when it is taking up your entire concentraion -eg club or gig.

Neither of those is really appropriate to a football match.

Yes, he could well and hopefully does learn in training, but there are reasons that non-playing squad members are expected to attend the match, and one is that it's a unique environment to observe the team's play and learn from it.

 

[sincher]

- Ryan, Ryan, do you sink 'e should 'av crossed zat ball?

- Er, maybe Gab

- Wow. Zat is amazing.

...

- Ryan, Ryan, do you sink zat was an elbow by wazza?

- Yeah, looks like he got away with that one Gab

- Oh wow. Zat is amazing!

...

- Ryan, Ryan...

- Er, yes Gab

- That Chicharito looks about twelve, n'est-ce pas? But he is tres bon at ze scoring, non?

- Er, yes Gab. Shut up now.

- Ok Ryan, I switch on ze ipod.

 

[Sir A1ex]

Well why isn't Giggs bugging SAF? Does Giggs think he's got nothing left to learn?! Sack Giggs, sell Obertan!

He's not near enough to him!

Seriously though, Giggs isn't in a position where his career could go either way, and he needs to grab every chance to learn. I bet when he was that age, he was bugging senior pros left right and centre though.

 

[wr8_utd]

- Ryan, Ryan, do you sink 'e should 'av crossed zat ball?

- Er, maybe Gab

- Wow. Zat is amazing.

...

- Ryan, Ryan, do you sink zat was an elbow by wazza?

- Yeah, looks like he got away with that one Gab

- Oh wow. Zat is amazing!

...

- Ryan, Ryan...

- Er, yes Gab

- That Chicharito looks about twelve, n'est-ce pas? But he is tres bon at ze scoring, non?

- Er, yes Gab. Shut up now.

- Ok Ryan, I switch on ze ipod.

 

[Red Defence]

I was exagerating about constantly bugging him, but I do think that listening to his ipod just shows that it's not even occurred to him that he could be using the experience more constructively.

OK, we all experience things differently, but I just can't see how listening to music while watching football is anything but a distraction.
I can't think of any time that I or anybody I've ever met or heard of listens to music for reasons other than:
a) to help make an otherwise dull experience more endurable - eg a journey
b) as an end to itself, when it is taking up your entire concentraion -eg club or gig.

Neither of those is really appropriate to a football match.

Yes, he could well and hopefully does learn in training, but there are reasons that non-playing squad members are expected to attend the match, and one is that it's a unique environment to observe the team's play and learn from it.

For all you know it could be a voice message he's listening to. Either way it really doen't matter does it.

 

[Top]

- Ryan, Ryan, do you sink 'e should 'av crossed zat ball?

- Er, maybe Gab

- Wow. Zat is amazing.

...

- Ryan, Ryan, do you sink zat was an elbow by wazza?

- Yeah, looks like he got away with that one Gab

- Oh wow. Zat is amazing!

...

- Ryan, Ryan...

- Er, yes Gab

- That Chicharito looks about twelve, n'est-ce pas? But he is tres bon at ze scoring, non?

- Er, yes Gab. Shut up now.

- Ok Ryan, I switch on ze ipod.

 

[Sultan]

Mobile phones and headphones should be banned from players during games - not a good advert from players...understandable fans being pissed off with such attitudes.

Ole was a great example of how to watch, learn and analyse games.

 

[Sultan]

Well why isn't Giggs bugging SAF? Does Giggs think he's got nothing left to learn?! Sack Giggs, sell Obertan!

And get accused by Phelan of going after his job?

 

[ciderman9000000]

- Ryan, Ryan, do you sink 'e should 'av crossed zat ball?

- Er, maybe Gab

- Wow. Zat is amazing.

...

- Ryan, Ryan, do you sink zat was an elbow by wazza?

- Yeah, looks like he got away with that one Gab

- Oh wow. Zat is amazing!

...

- Ryan, Ryan...

- Er, yes Gab

- That Chicharito looks about twelve, n'est-ce pas? But he is tres bon at ze scoring, non?

- Er, yes Gab. Shut up now.

- Ok Ryan, I switch on ze ipod.

 

[ciderman9000000]

I think Bebe's just texted Obertan saying "Hey, fancy sitting next to me for Chelsea, mate? This Giggs is a boring fecker!"

 

[BaldwinLegend]

Big drama queens. Obertan has been at the club for nearly 2 years, it's not like this is the first time he's sat next to Ryan Giggs.

I'm not sure if you're joking or not, Dan, as it is pretty ridiculous to get upset at Obertan for not talking to Ryan Giggs at the exact moment the camera zoomed in on them.
Sure, had it been us, who got a chance to sit next to Giggs for a day, then we would bug the shit out of him, but to expect Obertan to ask Giggs questions 24/7 because he hasn't performed on the pitch is overreacting on a new level.

I don't watch football while listening to music, but I don't expect others to be like me. If Obertan wants to listen to music and change track every now and again, then he should be allowed to, no matter who he sits next to.

Storm in a tea cup.

I can see why people would have a problem with it - Bebe and Obertan are the two players who absolutely should concentrate on games they're not playing in as every time they turn up on the pitch they make poor decisions and look far behind the rest of the squad in many aspects of their development.

Why do you think they're obliged to be at games they're not playing in, wearing the club uniform? There's a lot they should be getting from watching both United and the opponents and it's also about showing respect to their club and those that have been selected ahead of you and are out on the pitch. If they're just going to fanny around with their iphones they may as well have stayed at home.

I bet when Beckham, Giggs and Neville were coming up and giving it everything to get into the first team they sat and concentrated like hell on what those ahead of them were doing on the pitch.

 

[ciderman9000000]

"I dare you to ask Giggs if he's got any thoughts on the game!"

"lolz!"

 

[Alex]

What a dickhead. Sorry Gabriel, are we keeping you from doing more important things? At least pretend to show a bit of sodding interest

I'm getting fecked off with this bloke I'll be honest

This is how I interpreted it

 

[Red Defence]

I don't watch football while listening to music, but I don't expect others to be like me. If Obertan wants to listen to music and change track every now and again, then he should be allowed to, no matter who he sits next to.

Storm in a tea cup.

Rio has said that the players listen to certain music in the dressing room, which has been specially put together to fire them up before they go out onto the pitch. Could well be that Obertan was listening to some of that. If it helps him then I see no problem.

 

[BaldwinLegend]

Rio has said that the players listen to certain music in the dressing room, which has been specially put together to fire them up before they go out onto the pitch. Could well be that Obertan was listening to some of that. If it helps him then I see no problem.

What's he getting fired up for? Dinner?

 

[Pogue Mahone]

When Giggs, Scholes and Neville were the same age as Bebe/Obertan smart phones hadn't been invented.

You're comparing two completely different generations. These lads come from a generation where constantly fecking about on phones is the norm. It's what they do. Bugger all to do with how good they are at football, or whether they want to learn anything from watching the game.

Besides, have any of you moaning minnies taken a moment to think that the ball might have been out of play at the time?

 

[BaldwinLegend]

When Giggs, Scholes and Neville were the same age as Bebe/Obertan smart phones hadn't been invented.

You're comparing two completely different generations. These lads come from a generation where constantly fecking about on phones is the norm. It's what they do. Bugger all to do with how good they are at football, or whether they want to learn anything from watching the game.

Besides, have any of you moaning minnies taken a moment to think that the ball might have been out of play at the time?

Mobile phones might exist now but that hasn't stopped them from being banned in lots of work places - including football dressing rooms.

I suspect they're contractually obliged to be there, and it's for a reason.

Edit: it's also irrelevant whether smart phones were around or not when Giggs or Neville were at that stage - the point is I'm fairly sure they'd have been fixated on the game to learn all they could from those ahead of them. Just because smart phones are around doesn't make that any less a good idea.

 

[Carl]

I can't believe so much is being made of this. They're kids. Kids listen to iPods.

If it was an issue do you really think Fergie would allow it?

Seems like moaning for moanings sake to me.

 

[Alex]

I can't believe so much is being made of this. They're kids. Kids listen to iPods.

If it was an issue do you really think Fergie would allow it?

Seems like moaning for moanings sake to me.

Kids dont get paid to listen to iPods, and actually they are Manchester United players, for the time being at least, not kids.

 

[BaldwinLegend]

I can't believe so much is being made of this. They're kids. Kids listen to iPods.

If it was an issue do you really think Fergie would allow it?

Seems like moaning for moanings sake to me.

They're not kids - they're in a great position that thousands have tried and failed to be in, and yet they're hardly setting the world alight. In fact, they both generally amble around looking pretty clueless on the pitch.

If we get to the Champion's League final, will you be fine with them displaying that lack of regard for a match their team is playing in?

 

[Red Defence]

I can't believe so much is being made of this. They're kids. Kids listen to iPods.

If it was an issue do you really think Fergie would allow it?

Seems like moaning for moanings sake to me.

No, I think he would have banned them. He hasn't so he probably doesn't see it as an issue either.

 

[Brophs]

Maybe they decided to play games on their phones after taking the gaffer's comment to 'Look at Rooney. He can play well even with all the angry birds' to heart.

 

[Amir]

They're not kids - they're in a great position that thousands have tried and failed to be in, and yet they're hardly setting the world alight. In fact, they both generally amble around looking pretty clueless on the pitch.

So had they looked good when playing, they could be sitting with their iPods when they are out of the team?

Talk about storms in tea cups.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

So had they looked good when playing, they could be sitting with their iPods when they are out of the team?

Talk about storms in tea cups.

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