You were bang in the money about Gabigol. Really struggling at Inter and his agent is already making noises about how unhappy his player is.
Gabriel Jesus | Arsenal
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I've only seen this guy with brazil, but he looked really good. Real talent. Won't be surprised if he turns into one of the best in the world in a few years time. That said, he's not in neymar's league
Yeah, I've never understood why people are so sure of these predictions.
Well, it was one of the most stupid transfers I've ever seen. Inter were mugged, and I couldn't really see the logic there.
Will be interesting to see how Pep uses him. He clearly doesn't fancy Aguero no matter how many he scores, if Gabriel Jesus starts quickly he might find a starting place straight away.
FLOP
You have got to be on a wind up no?
I think hell flop, just my opinion, just based on the fact he has a similar build to Neymar and Neymar would only succeed as hes an exceptional talent.
Hell have a similar impact to Sane.
P.S I wont give City anything. Aguero is no where near as good as Ibra either.
Would be surprised if he didnt make it here, looks a very good player to me.
Have a feeling he will quickly put Aguero out of business.
Good player. Definitely not the new Luis Ronaldo. Probably more like a better version of Robinho.
I'm on the fence with Jesus. Dunno how he will go. Like every other youngster in the world he may or may not succeed. Last season Iheanacho, Martial, Sane and Rashford looked world beaters this season it looks like the only play because or when there is no one else. Don't think he'll play a huge amount unless Aguero's hammy's go or he gets another sending off because he's trying to be top scorer and get more red cards than Fernandinho in a season.
Did you miss Rashford's performance last night?
He's certainly not playing because there is nobody else.
I disagree. Although he looks small, he is physically much stronger and he reminds me more of Tevez than Neymar. He is already Brazil's main striker at such a young age and his performances for them has also been terrific. This shows that he'll only improve with better players around him. He will do really well in England.
That was his first in awhile and he's been in and out of the team for good reason. Not saying he won't make it or go full Januzai, don't get upset. I think its fair to say he's not had near the effect most thought he would this season. I for one will say I thought he should start on the wing for you guys every game at the start of the season. I couldn't get my head around say Lingaard starting ahead of him, but when he has played he hasn't always been on it the way he needs to be.
For his age and ability he's done fine, he's not ready to be first team yet. Every young player will have good and bad games, he's had some very good one's this season.
I don't believe he'll have a big impact this season. Next year is when I'd expect to see more of him.
Lets hope that he doesn't do a Pato or Rashford and turn their season around.
I disagree if your good enough your old enough. I'll say the same about Iheanacho who tons of City fans rate and has the PL goals per minute record. He's good but he's not first team class and may or may not reach that level. With young players you just don't know, they can completely stagnate ala Bojan or most Brazilians or kick on, its just too unpredictable which is why I'd have spent the Jesus money elsewhere was it my choice at City. At least with Rashford/Iheanacho if it doesn't work out then they aren't a major loss. Maybe being a City fans I'm still worried after Jo.
Obviously it's just your opinion, I find it odd people clarify that. You think he will flop based on the fact he has a similar build to another player who hasn't flopped? That is really flawed logic. Also stating Neymar only succeeded due to the fact he's an exceptional talent is really odd as you'll never know.
In regards to the comment about Sané, you imply he has been a flop but has barely even played 10 full games. It may only be your opinion, but it's wrong, even if he does flop it won't be due to the logic or reasons you've stated.
Not sure what Aguero and Ibra have to do with anything unless you are explaining you can't be objective regarding anything City as it's an emotional subject for you, but I Bet if we had bought Jesus he would have been a nailed on world beater "because his build is similar to Neymar's"
It's just the dreaded (and somewhat cliched) 'second season' for most of those players. Sterling had some similar last year and is probably your most consistent attacker this year. I think they're all talented enough to get over it. I think Jesus might play quite frequently too.
No idea how this kid will do, but he could hardly be arriving at a worse moment. Mid winter to a new country and a new style of football, in the middle of the season, into a team that's underperforming, without a settled first 11 and with the fans willing him to have an immediate impact. Wouldn't be a surprise if he didn't show his best stuff immediately.
Obviously it's just your opinion, I find it odd people clarify that. You think he will flop based on the fact he has a similar build to another player who hasn't flopped? That is really flawed logic. Also stating Neymar only succeeded due to the fact he's an exceptional talent is really odd as you'll never know.
In regards to the comment about Sané, you imply he has been a flop but has barely even played 10 full games. It may only be your opinion, but it's wrong, even if he does flop it won't be due to the logic or reasons you've stated.
Not sure what Aguero and Ibra have to do with anything unless you are explaining you can't be objective regarding anything City as it's an emotional subject for you, but I Bet if we had bought Jesus he would have been a nailed on world beater "because his build is similar to Neymar's"
you are correct I am hard wired to think amything City is plastic and post Chelsea oil money guff . ill be honest ive only seen youtube comps and nothing stood out for me with him, but nor did it with Martial. Sane I would consider a pricy and pointless signing for City he has flatteredbto decieve with poor performances. whem you consider we were berated for over paying for Martial i have no sympothy for City im this regard and I think Sane is absolutely a flop at this stage.
As far as I am concerned Ibrahimovic is in another league to Aguero and is a legend of the game still playing and whats more beating Agueros numbers this season at the age of 35.
Back to Gabriel, perhaps he will be amazing but lookimg at his build for the premier league he ismt the quint essential Premier League striker like Martial or Rashford is. Both tall powerful players with lightening pace despite thier ages. I could be wrong but unless hes dancing about defemces like Neymar or has the bulldoggish low centre of gravity like Aguero I think hell flop.
This Martial chap is obviously a massive WUM.
Re: Jesus, if he confines Aguero to the bench I'll be a happy man. Particularly if stubborn Pep perseveres come what may.
Re: Jesus, if he confines Aguero to the bench I'll be a happy man. Particularly if stubborn Pep perseveres come what may.
Clearly!
No idea how he will do but the hype is there, I'm interested to see him play honestly. I wonder how this will effect Aguero, Pep doesn't seem convinced by him and now he has a new £27m striker to use.
Apologies for the slow reply, it's not often I'm on here. Evidently one holds a grudge though, I've had to look back at my "ridiculing" of you as that sounded surprising, and it's actually just me explaining the medical side of Gundogans surgery, and then we had an entirely reasonable but short conversation that seemed to end in a friendly manner. Shame you feel that way, I don't spend time on here to flame or provoke, just provide a varied opinion from the other side.
Anyone that says this kid will flop is just saying so more in hope.
in reality nobody can judge how good he will be until he's actually played for them a good few times
in reality nobody can judge how good he will be until he's actually played for them a good few times
I'm not going there again. Thought Kenedy was going to be a massive success at Chelsea.
Kenedy had achieved nowhere near what Jesus had done at this point in his career.
Anderson got to be European Golden Boy. And then he got the fatz. It's a Brazilian disease. Who says Jesus won't get the fatz as well?
Apologies, ridicule is too strong a term. Rebut maybe? Anyway, no grudge, just when he got injured I thought "I knew it!" and recalled this thread.
When is he gonna play?
If he adapts well, this could be a big thing for City's season, considering Agüero's & Kelechi's form.
I hope he does well for the sake of world football but with the acclimatizing he has to do added to his debut it will be interesting. If Vertonghen went through him on his debut and he gets treated "rough" it will take a big character to get back up from that, because he will have a bad game which leads to the media being on his back etc. etc.
I hope he fails big time.
Think it's premature to expect too much from him even if in flashes he shows his immense potential
I always preferred Jesus to Gabigol, even before the latter struggled to get regular playing time at Inter but young Brasilians rarely make a splash this soon once making it across the pond - a lot of adaptation to expect but I really like his game
I always preferred Jesus to Gabigol, even before the latter struggled to get regular playing time at Inter but young Brasilians rarely make a splash this soon once making it across the pond - a lot of adaptation to expect but I really like his game
I hope he fails miserably, tells Pep to sodd off and then continues to break Agueros leg in training.
Ok I went too far with the last one.
Ok I went too far with the last one.
you ever seen the Brazilian league? it's far rougher than the prem, I doubt being 'roughed' up will be an issue, I think it'll be the pace that he may struggle with initially.