I'm with you on this one. As a fan of the Seleção, I'm not buying into it yet, but as you say only time will tell.
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I'm with you on this one. As a fan of the Seleção, I'm not buying into it yet, but as you say only time will tell.
Mind you that Tite is a great coach, especially given quality players to work with. The guys understands and study the game, actually that's rare in Brazil, even went abroad to educate himself after being dismissed by Corinthians, the first time.
I, for one, think he'll do very well in the Seleção. He has the technical but also the family like approach that works well here. Felipao used to have mostly the latter, and we all saw when it came down crashing.
As I say that I think that we have a good generation, that can be great given time, but not right now. For now we should play more as a team, because few players can change a hard game. Neymar always springs to mind, he's brilliant even if really dumb and immature sometimes, Douglas Costa being the other if played right.
Jesus is not up there yet, and may take a while. Good player, fast and skilled, but for me not as much as being hyped. Guardiola will be immense for him, imo. Reminds of Douglas Costa, very good at Shaktar, but immense in Bayern. That's guidance and enormous hard work.
Gabigol, the Inter one, is way more hype and not close to him. He'll have a hard time if he don't commit everything he has. Seems the type of player who will be back to Brazil in three years time.
Harsh IMO. I rate both talents and I still say they left Brazil to early but I feel Gabigol game is more ready for the European game. Jesus is the more talented and he also has more hype especially with how he started the brasileirao.
Spurs and some of the teams you named there would crush the opposition in the south American leagues.
Really? I mean, Gabigol scores ok, but not as the striker people rave about. Both are surely going as a gamble, but the Inter player seems more prone to screwing thing up.
It's been a while Santos is trying to push a new Neymar. First was Neilton, then there was another kid, then Gabigol... None of them seems to have the tools to become top quality for me. Maybe I'm being to harsh, but I'm kinda tired of being pushed with the next big player since Neymar.
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Good post. Tite is a good coach and great fit for the national team. He has potential to be the best we've had in years.
Your summaries about Gabigol and Gabriel Jesus are quite on the money as well, both players with talent that needs to be nurtured to develop. Hopefully they do for the Seleção's sake, this time we have a young squad, particularly on the attacking front which makes it quite exciting to watch. Here's hoping it develops well for everyone involved.
They said the same about Coutinho when he was at Inter, and now look at him.
Inter is not the best place for a young player right now, so it will be tough.
I don't think that will be the case under de Boer. Gave a surprise debut to a young Belgian LB from the academy in his first game in spite of having a couple of senior options. As for Gabigol specifically not sure how he'll fit in to be fair. de Boer wants to play a 4-3-3 and Icardi will be the striker with Candreva and Perisic presumably the regulars out wide, he'll struggle to displace either of them. Could be a good impact player off the bench perhaps.
I really don't remember people saying that about Coutinho, although there was some hype. He was from Vasco, my childhood club here in Brazil, and I looked at him really close. He was always a gem, and very underated, even if the supporters went nuts about him.
His sale was outrageous, since he was the best thing from the academy in years (since Romário maybe?) and for peanuts for less than 4mi Euros (Damn Eurico!!!!). He left way too early, and that costed him. At Inter, much like Gabigol, he didn't have much room for mistake and learning. He flourished in a more adaptable space and grew a lot at Espanyol. Liverpool did one hell of scouting on him.
Gabigol has way more hype on him, that Coutinho, IMO. Not even close, that's usually the deal with the "Kids from the Villa". Let's see how he develops, but I have serious doubts about him becoming the real deal. I hope I'm wrong.
Clearly ready to play for Pep. Scored against 2nd placed Flamengo yesterday. Palmeiras still top of the table, one point ahead.
He arrives in less then a month, right during the time Aguero's place is in jeopardy
you guys think he'll start for them?
you guys think he'll start for them?
Think he'd put Aguero on the bench even if he doesn't score hat much.
Apparently, Pep has issues with Aguero's work ethic. Can't see Pep standing for that.
Not straight away, Pep won't want to alienate Aguero, I don't think his position is under threat, Pep tinkered and the media sensationalise
surely he can't be registered before January though?
I really don't think Pep has issues with Kun, he was dropped for one game and for purely tactical reasons. Jesus won't play, he'll possibly be third choice for awhile but I have a sneaky feeling he may get game time on the right when he does play.
Also that dive is shocking. Should get a 3 game ban for it.
Also that dive is shocking. Should get a 3 game ban for it.
Not a bad year for the kid.
I completely forgot this guy was signed by City. Good years are waiting ahead for them with Sterling, Sane, Iheanacho and Jesus.
I said back in August that I didn't think Gundogan could stay injury free over an entire season. You ridiculed my belief back then.
When does he join the squad?
So basically a January signing. He has plenty of time to prove himself, but anyone reckon he will do it sooner rather than later?
He's bloody brilliant and will probably be a good player for City right away. Annoying.
January isn't the best time for a Brazilian to arrive in Manchester. Flashes of brilliance early on, 2 months slump and upward trajectory towards the end of the season is my guess.
I know some fanboi will inevitably laugh at this at some point. Hopefully not.
What are the thoughts on City's starting XI in a month or so? Gundogan's injured and Sané has underwhelmed so far.
It's easy to see why Pep wanted GJ. He works very hard and intercepts a lot in oppositions half. I doubt he'll have an immediate impact. It's like if we get Lindelöf, there is stiff competition respectively so will be good for them to have half a season to adjust.
If GJ performs to his potential, they have to go 4-4-2 diamond. Absolutely no point in them having players on the wings, so a midfield 4 of fernandinho, toure, de bruyne and silva with the latter 3 interchanging and GJ and Aguero up front
Heh. Pep playing 4-4-2.
4-4-2 on paper but would obviously not look like that in game.
Brazilian talent looking like world beater in the Brazilian league coming to the Prem. Think ive read this story before. He will flop
In fairness, he has been on fire in the Conmebol qualifiers as well and looks every bit a player who will fit well with Guardiola.
New Robinho or the new, erm....(can't think of a forward who moved from Brazil straight 5o England who wasn't shit).
Athe least I can make loads of hilarious jokes like "it's no surprise he's good with crosses".
Athe least I can make loads of hilarious jokes like "it's no surprise he's good with crosses".
He arrived at city without any bags or luggage, just three six inch nails; asked if anyone would put him up for the night.
Robinho came from Real Madrid.
Dont think he will flop long term. He is excellent, seems to have a better workrate and mentality than Robinho. They need players to step up for them, think he could be one besides KDB and Aguero.
He will flop, no question about it,
Hes joining the Premier League and we all know how much we play with the ball in the air, he wont have the time or space he is afforded in the Brazilian leagues and he doesn't have the physicality of someone like Martial who pretty much built for the Prem.
Hell join, have a couple of impressive moments, Pep will want him to track back and he will do it but it will be in vein as he wont be able to bully the physical players off the ball, hell be targeted by other teams as a weak link down the flanks and hell be dropped and will have a similar impact as Sane.
Nothing I have seen from him suggests otherwise, he reminds me of Neymar, bar Neymar went to the right league to improve himself and become the world beater he is today. You cant become that kind of player in the Premier League and there isnt a single case to suggest otherwise.
Flop.
Hes joining the Premier League and we all know how much we play with the ball in the air, he wont have the time or space he is afforded in the Brazilian leagues and he doesn't have the physicality of someone like Martial who pretty much built for the Prem.
Hell join, have a couple of impressive moments, Pep will want him to track back and he will do it but it will be in vein as he wont be able to bully the physical players off the ball, hell be targeted by other teams as a weak link down the flanks and hell be dropped and will have a similar impact as Sane.
Nothing I have seen from him suggests otherwise, he reminds me of Neymar, bar Neymar went to the right league to improve himself and become the world beater he is today. You cant become that kind of player in the Premier League and there isnt a single case to suggest otherwise.
Flop.
So not 4-4-2 then
Neymar would smash the PL to pieces and be it's best player. If he's that good he'll be frighteningly good.
It's stupid to say whether he will flop or be a success right now either way. Every player is different. It's all pointless conjecture either way. Let's take a view once he starts playing shall we?
Hasn't he got 1 goal in his last 12 or something in the Brazilian league?
These Brazilian wonderkids should be taken with a grain of salt until they have a credible body of work. If United bought them all we would be fighting relegation right now
These Brazilian wonderkids should be taken with a grain of salt until they have a credible body of work. If United bought them all we would be fighting relegation right now