What about Ross Barkley, he could be a very good box to box.
Future planning - Replacing Carrick
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Schneiderlin seems like a gettable player. Javi Martinez is worth a shout as well, if fit.
The thing with the way Carrick plays now, a lot like Scholes, it seems to be something which has developed almost out of necessity, not having the legs to go box to box for the entire game,
Whereas Scholes was brilliant going forward and just as good sitting back and directing play, Carrick was not so good going forward and seems to be enjoying a purple patch now he has to sit back and direct play.
So the question is, is it possible to find young players in the same mould, or should we be looking to a more senior player coming in?
Kroos, Modric and Pirlo seem most like for like, but none really have the same defensive capabilities, although they possibly!!! have better distribution, and besides we don't stand a cat in hells chance of getting any of them.
So at the end of this useless post I have no answer I guess however that LVG might, TBH I would go with what he thinks over me any day!
Whereas Scholes was brilliant going forward and just as good sitting back and directing play, Carrick was not so good going forward and seems to be enjoying a purple patch now he has to sit back and direct play.
So the question is, is it possible to find young players in the same mould, or should we be looking to a more senior player coming in?
Kroos, Modric and Pirlo seem most like for like, but none really have the same defensive capabilities, although they possibly!!! have better distribution, and besides we don't stand a cat in hells chance of getting any of them.
So at the end of this useless post I have no answer I guess however that LVG might, TBH I would go with what he thinks over me any day!
He's played more as a CB for Bayern, hasn't he? He was really good in Midfield a few years ago but how would he adapt after a few years of playing CB?
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I think we'd be missing a trick if we don't go in for Gundogan, he may never fully regain that bit of explosiveness that made him such a great box to box CM, but he's two footed and has an excellent rang of passing to dictate the game from deep.
I could go with this. Schneiderlin is not a bad shout. Verratti is a dream... Koke, Pogba...
There are options, but we *need* to get one of them.
It's definitely going to be interesting. We see the difference when Carrick isn't playing. An excellent reader of the game is the main attribute we need.
I think Schneiderlin is the guy i'd prefer to. Interestingly though our interest in him seems to of cooled off as far as the media is concerned. Hoping it might be a case of us getting the deal done under the radar this Summer.
Has to be Schneiderlin. Excellent player and one of the best DMs in the league. Not as much as an enforcer as Matic but much better on the ball. Would love him at United, he's realistic and bags of Premier League experience.
I think LVG has rooney earmarked as the long term successor to carrick as his passing can control the game from midfield.
Much as I think his best position is up front at the moment in a couple of seasons time then perhaps it will actually be rooneys more natural position anyway (plus he will probably be uniteds and englands all time top scorer by then anyway and perhaps up for the new challenge of dominating midfield)
Much as I think his best position is up front at the moment in a couple of seasons time then perhaps it will actually be rooneys more natural position anyway (plus he will probably be uniteds and englands all time top scorer by then anyway and perhaps up for the new challenge of dominating midfield)
Rooney will never be remotely close to Michael Carrick in midfield. It's not what he is.
Its what LGV wanted him to be against Chelsea
oh cock carricks out I had better take my best forward and put him in midfield as he is the best passer we have.
We wont replace carrick with an exact clone - just like carrick was a very different player to keane but I still think Rooney will end up being a deep lying midfielder for us when Carrick goes
Has your view on this changed after the Chelsea game? I think it became obvious that we don't have someone who can effectively play that role without Carrick of Blind. As one of the most important positions in LVG's 'philosphy' - I bet he'll dip into the market in the summer to fill this.
By the time Michael goes Wayne will also be in his 30's. We should be looking at somebody who could play there for the next 10 years or we will have the same problem again. Wayne's passing is nowhere near Carricks. He cannot thread balls through, all he does is hit it out to the wings. If he attempts long passes more often than not he gives it away.
I'd like to see how Fosu-Mensah develops over the next couple of years.
Rooney wasn't even used in the #6 role as the third choice player there on Saturday, Ander was. Hopefully that means LvG realizes he does not have the passing game to play that vital role.
Feels like it was omly yesterday we were discussing who to replace Scholes. Weird.
Long term, obviously we should be looking at a Carrick replacement. Blind can do the job and I think he would surprise a few if given the chance. That said, there are probably others out there from expensive options like Pogba or economical ones like Schneiderlin. I would like Moutinho though, he's been fantastic each time I've watched him and we should've really picked him up before he went to Monaco. In either case, we should either go with Pogba if we can or if he's not available, one of the moderately priced options.
How is William Carvalho doing this season?
I think Rooney tries to do too much when he is midfield. He looks too many times for the Scholesque long balls, hence giving the ball away sometimes.
possibly - but he will get better with more games and I remember Scholes initially behind the striker and it taking him a while to fully develop into the midfield maestro he became (though admittedly he started the transition far younger)
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Schneiderlin would be my choice. I also like Sebastian Rode.
Is it better to try replace Carrick (in terms of attributes) or find the best CM or DM that fits?
For me the latter. Like for like just isn't going to happen.
For me the latter. Like for like just isn't going to happen.
I read he's been pretty patchy but improved in recent months.
Verratti or Schneiderlin.
Isco. The guy can play anywhere.
I don't think Pogba will come - it does not make much sense for him to return to a club which he left disgruntled. Fergie shut that door long back. I am not sure Moutinho cuts it though. If we are buying someone, he should be a bigger presence that Blind with similar passing quality, else he won't add anything different to the side (and as such, just remain a 3rd choice back-up).
Fergie isn't in charge anymore.
Pogba will return if the money is right. Players have returned to their previous clubs. Fabregas didn't leave Barcelona on the best of terms as a youth player. Matic returned to Chelsea.
For me personally though Schneiderlin would be a good choice.
Yes, he isn't. But he is still around. Anyway, the point is that we wont be the only ones offering Pogba pot loads of money. Given that there is no love for the club, he'd rather go to a club without baggage. Don't get me wrong, I would love any one of Veratti or Pobga to come, but I don't think Pogba is much of an option. It is just media hyping this up.
Also, Fabregas was different. He always said he loved Barcalona regardless - Pogba hasn't once said that!
I feel some are giving Blind much less credit than he deserves. I hope he gets fit by the Everton game so we can see how he does in our new-finagled 433. I believe he has the attributes necessary to succeed as a regista. For people knocking his passing range, remember the two long balls against Spain at the WC.
I hope LvG promotes Pearson as backup to this position next season and plays him in the League Cup.
If we truly need to break the bank for a superstar at this position because we are United and we want to dominate Europe, I would love to see us go for Marco Verratti.
I hope LvG promotes Pearson as backup to this position next season and plays him in the League Cup.
If we truly need to break the bank for a superstar at this position because we are United and we want to dominate Europe, I would love to see us go for Marco Verratti.
Blind has been good but I don't see any reason to make him Carrick's successor just yet. Sign someone else who can fill that role and let them compete to take Carrick's place. If Blind is good enough he'll win out, if not then he's still a handy player to have about what will then be a better team.
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If we could bring Pogba in fantastic. We have some good youth prospects and if we find the right balance who knows. Mcnair came as a midfielder I think? It's not that big a deal at the minute anyway. Carrick has never relied on pace and I think he's good (luck withstanding), for another 2-3 seasons. I can kinda picture him retiring at the end of LVG's Reign.
Blind for sure.
Next season Carrick should not play more than once a week, alternating with Blind on a horses for courses approach.
We still use Carrick for the big games but Blind gets game time in the position. By the time Carrick retires, Blind becomes first choice in the position quite seamlessly.
Blind is definitely worth a punt at this stage imo
Next season Carrick should not play more than once a week, alternating with Blind on a horses for courses approach.
We still use Carrick for the big games but Blind gets game time in the position. By the time Carrick retires, Blind becomes first choice in the position quite seamlessly.
Blind is definitely worth a punt at this stage imo