Fullbacks for the summer

Alex Sandro and Fabinho. Job done. Alaba if he's available would be even better for LB.
 
It is quite amusing that both Young and Valencia are still ranked as the best full backs in the WhoScored team of the season based on their stats.

Not saying that means much in terms of them being the best full backs in the league but you'd assume (blindly) from that, there's no real issue (weakness) with them.
 
The Irish Connection said:
I'd go for sessegnon from Fulham and loan him out. Then get Danny rose as well with young as back up. Rose seems to want out of Spurs and is very good when fit and up for it.
For right back, maybe your man odriozola, although don't know much about him other than YouTube vids. Or the lad who signed for barca from benfica, who is on the bench because of sergi roberto but is a good attacking full back and would be an upgrade on Valencia I reckon.
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First choice Sandro, then Tierny then Rose and Mitchell as back up with Young. Personally I think right back can survive another season with Valencia Young and hopefully TFM as we have other areas off the team needing more attention imo.
 
What's the situation with Danny Rose?

Is he not been playing purely because of the conflict with the manager?

Or cos he's declining as a player?
 
I don't think we would be buying a LB, RB & CB this year.It would mean an almost entirely new defense and there won't be any understanding between the players especially as there won't be a proper pre season thus year due to WC.
The most I can see us getting is a LB and a CB with LB being the most probable.

If we get Sandro and switch to 4-3-3 our left side could look like this :
Sandro - Pogba - Martial
That's frightening, atleast on paper.
 
Minimalist said:
It is quite amusing that both Young and Valencia are still ranked as the best full backs in the WhoScored team of the season based on their stats.

Not saying that means much in terms of them being the best full backs in the league but you'd assume (blindly) from that, there's no real issue (weakness) with them.
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Whoscored's defender ratings are absolute nonsense.

Example: Scenario A - a defender positions himself intelligently, thereby preventing an opposition midfielder passing the ball in to the forwards. The midfielder plays it backwards instead and the attack comes to nothing.

Scenario B - a defender is positionally ill-disciplined and unable to read the game. An opposition midfielder threads a pass in behind him to an onrushing forward. Our defender manages to recover the ground and make a last-ditch tackle.

Defender B receives a load of 'whoscored' points, defender A gets nothing. Who is the better defender? Who would you rather have playing for your team? 'Defensive actions' are captured by statistics and, therefore, rewarded, but numerous and frequent defensive actions do not necessarily make a good defender.

Mustafi and Tarkowski are the Premier League's 'best' centrebacks, while Naldo, Sané, Kimmich and Kolarov comprise the 'best' back 4 in all of Europe.
 
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I think we did not grab the right players when we had the chances like Walker, Aurier etc but i still think we can make immense for the same.

OUT:
Darmian
Shaw (although i think he can improve)

KEEP:
Blind

BUY:
Sandro
Kimmich
Meunier
Tierney
 
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jderbyshire said:
What's the situation with Danny Rose?

Is he not been playing purely because of the conflict with the manager?

Or cos he's declining as a player?
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He is playing, in rotation with Davies.
 
SAFTHEGREAT said:
I think we did not grab the right players when we had the chances like Walker, Aurier etc but i still think we can make immense for the same.

OUT:
Darmian
Shaw (although i think he can improve)

KEEP:
Blind

BUY:
Sandro
Kimmich
Meunier
Tierney
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Aurier has been underwhelming to OK from what I've seen.
And regarding Kimmich, he sighed a contract about 10 days ago :

Bayern Munich's Joshua Kimmich extends contract at club until 2023

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/...immich-extends-contract-until-2023-467497.jsp
 
Many names mentioned but it's obvious that Shaw is gone. We need to get a better full back than Valencia.
It's a long overdue shake up. Jose needs to get it right, you know he'll be tempted to use Young again next year. If we want to compete with the best, we need to update the backline.
 
Wan said:
Fast track Lee O'Connor as cover for both LB & RB.
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Physically I don't think he's there yet, give him another season at youth level to develop before we start thinking about putting him in the first team set up.
 
Minimalist said:
It is quite amusing that both Young and Valencia are still ranked as the best full backs in the WhoScored team of the season based on their stats.

Not saying that means much in terms of them being the best full backs in the league but you'd assume (blindly) from that, there's no real issue (weakness) with them.
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This is why stats don't tell the story and shouldn't be relied upon too much. Valencia has got worse as the season has went on and Young shouldn't be the starter in a team wanting to win the Premier League and Champions League (as well as he has played this season).
 
The Irish Connection said:
I'd go for sessegnon from Fulham and loan him out. Then get Danny rose as well with young as back up. Rose seems to want out of Spurs and is very good when fit and up for it.
For right back, maybe your man odriozola, although don't know much about him other than YouTube vids. Or the lad who signed for barca from benfica, who is on the bench because of sergi roberto but is a good attacking full back and would be an upgrade on Valencia I reckon.
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Sessegnon under Mourinho?..... Not sure if that would be wise...
 
Jig1234 said:
RB: Thomas Meunier
LB: Alex Sandro

Young/Valencia should be kept as back-up.
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Good options in my opinion.. Sandro may prove to be out of reach but Meunier may be available and is a lifelong United fan.
 
I think TFM should be the new RB next season, and then leaves us to go after a top LB. As people said please no freakin rose. Maybe mitchell can keep progressing and be an answer in a couple years.
 
Jig1234 said:
Sessegnon under Mourinho?..... Not sure if that would be wise...
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Why not? Loan him out for a season. Rashford and Mctominay are getting plenty of games under Mourinho. We should be in for the best young players.

Honestly though, from what I've seen, he looks a bit overrated and possibly more suited to left back than wing. I know he's had great stats but I think he definitely would need a year on loan in the prem.
 
Infra-red said:
Whoscored's defender ratings are absolute nonsense.

Example: Scenario A - a defender positions himself intelligently, thereby preventing an opposition midfielder passing the ball in to the forwards. The midfielder plays it backwards instead and the attack comes to nothing.

Scenario B - a defender is positionally ill-disciplined and unable to read the game. An opposition midfielder threads a pass in behind him to an onrushing forward. Our defender manages to recover the ground and make a last-ditch tackle.

Defender B receives a load of 'whoscored' points, defender A gets nothing. Who is the better defender? Who would you rather have playing for your team? 'Defensive actions' are captured by statistics and, therefore, rewarded, but numerous and frequent defensive actions do not necessarily make a good defender.

Mustafi and Tarkowski are the Premier League's 'best' centrebacks, while Naldo, Sané, Kimmich and Kolarov comprise the 'best' back 4 in all of Europe.
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JoaquinJoaquin said:
This is why stats don't tell the story and shouldn't be relied upon too much. Valencia has got worse as the season has went on and Young shouldn't be the starter in a team wanting to win the Premier League and Champions League (as well as he has played this season).
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Thanks broskis.

To be fair, I did start off by saying and I quote, “it is amusing...”

But I’ll be sure to look more skeptically in future. Just not before I buy some supplements off InfoWars.
 
David Alaba recently said that he would have no problem moving on looking for a new challenge. So as far as left-back options goes i think 2 outstanding candidates are Alex Sandro and David Alaba. As for the right-back slot I can think of Thomas Meunier or maybe someone like Cedric Soares, I think he is a really good right-back.

I would pick Alaba and Meunier if not then any combo of the above said players. Who does the caf prefer out of Sandro and Alaba?
 
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devilish said:
Do we need another left winger?
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He can play LB also but I think he will be a LW in the long term. I have not seen much of him so I am not sure how good he is at LB. I would not want to sign another Phil Jones. Who spent large parts of his career floating around from one position to the next. We need an established LB. That may well be Sessegnon but I don't know enough about him as a defender.
 
MUFC OK said:
Good options in my opinion.. Sandro may prove to be out of reach but Meunier may be available and is a lifelong United fan.
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Meunier is a must. He would add plenty of goals/assists to our team. He would also be the perfect signing to get the best out of Lukaku in the air. I can see the pair linking up nicely.
 
Jig1234 said:
He can play LB also but I think he will be a LW in the long term. I have not seen much of him so I am not sure how good he is at LB. I would not want to sign another Phil Jones. Who spent large parts of his career floating around from one position to the next. We need an established LB. That may well be Sessegnon but I don't know enough about him as a defender.
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From what i read he gets more effective further up the pitch
 
2 new full-backs together with a CM and a right winger constitutes major surgery once again and hoping to build a team which will hit the ground running with 4 new starters is a big big ask....I'd go as far as to say makes it harder than this season to win the title....
 
RedorDead21 said:
2 new full-backs together with a CM and a right winger constitutes major surgery once again and hoping to build a team which will hit the ground running with 4 new starters is a big big ask....I'd go as far as to say makes it harder than this season to win the title....
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The title is a country mile off anyway, and we can't go into the season with two 33 year old converted wingers as our first choice fullbacks.
 
The Irish Connection said:
Why not? Loan him out for a season. Rashford and Mctominay are getting plenty of games under Mourinho. We should be in for the best young players.
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Reckon we should really only be in for the best all-round complete players or outstanding attacking talents.. This guy is 17(?) and won't be starting every game.. Or for that matter, any games. Attack is one thing - there are 4 virtually interchangeable attacking positions, you can half carry a young talent - but there's only one left back position, and whilst there might be half a dozen games a season where you'd start a kid, generally he's not going to play. And why buy him to loan him out? Let the kid develop where ever that might be... It's better for everyone.
 
In truth, we should have been in for a fullback last summer. We'll have limited available options in the next transfer window I have the feeling, it's not like there is an abundance of quality full backs on the market.
 
I really like Sandro whenever I see him. Built like Valencia, but a much better all round player. I just like him. He's a Mourinho player, you can see that a mile off. Very much a left side Ivanovic for me. The question is, would he leave? He'll be on very good money at Juve, and they're a strong team right now, in a good place. How much do you have to offer him a week to tempt him? It'll start with a 2 I'd imagine.. Big money.. Money the club want to spend on a workmanlike left back? I dunno..

At right back.. I just think it's vital we get someone in. Valencia can cover from time to time, but he's a terrible footballer these days. Panicked, poor composure, useless in attack.. I'd rather see another season with Young at LB and a new RB than vice-versa. Although obviously 2 new fullbacks would be ideal.
 
Sandro and munier

I’m not keen on the idea of Rose, don’t know if it’s attitude or injury holding him back at the moment

Quite like Cedric at Southampton too
 
Kaushalmanutd said:
David Alaba recently said that he would have no problem moving on looking for a new challenge. So as far as left-back options goes i think 2 outstanding candidates are Alex Sandro and David Alaba. As for the right-back slot I can think of Thomas Meunier or maybe someone like Cedric Soares, I think he is a really good right-back.
I would pick Alaba and Meunier if not then any combo of the above said players. Who does the caf prefer out of Sandro and Alaba?
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We can actually sign both. Alaba can play in midfield to a very high level and Sandro can play LB. We're lacking in midfield so I think it makes sense to sign both of them. Set up like this:

Meunier Bailly Smalling Sandro
Matic Alaba
Pogba​

That looks to be an outstanding defence and midfield. Up there with the best. We do need a CB to replace Smalling but if we can get Alaba, Sandro AND Meunier I'd wait until next season to replace him. If Sandro gets injured Alaba goes to LB. However If we're signing one then Alaba is the perhaps the better option because he's a few years younger but quality wise they're pretty much similar. Both would completely transfer our left hand side. For RB I said earlier Fabinho but I forgot about Meunier. If he's available it's a no brainer. He isn't even playing for PSG and if he comes here I think would make a massive impact. TFM is also ready to start in the first team next season and is another option. Meunier with TFM as back up and RB is sorted. TFM can also play at DM if needed.​
 
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Who’s the lad we’ve got on loan at Aberdeen (or similar)?

Demetri mitchell
 
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