We've been linked with Sidibe; I wouldn't mind Sandro/Sidibe or Sessegnon/Sidibe.
Fullbacks for the summer
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Some of you who use to follow Bundesliga could tell me if Wendell - Leverkusen LB - could be an option? I only watched him for Gremio and he was very good.
Think he would be a great option as can play both full back positions as well
Definately agree whenever I have seen him which is only 3/4 timkes, is it because he has spoken of us before? Looks decent/good in all areas and excellent in none, bit underwhelming I think
That and being "overrated" vs being as good as Valencia are two different things. He can be both overrated and still a major upgrade on Valencia going forward
I've got a feeling we will only get Sandro for LB. Valencia will still be there next season and will share the role with TFM. Jose will spend on 2 CMs, LB, CB and an attacker.
Fred
Sandro
Milinkovic-Savic (40% chance of this happening) or Fabinho
Alderweireld
Willian (I don't think we should be going after him)
Fred
Sandro
Milinkovic-Savic (40% chance of this happening) or Fabinho
Alderweireld
Willian (I don't think we should be going after him)
"major upgrade" - that is the whole point, I dont think he is a major upgrade apart from Valencia being at the twilight now.
If the Dalot news is true as it looks, think we can expect him to be first choice again next season.
Don't want to rant but I'm not pleased tbh.
Don't want to rant but I'm not pleased tbh.
So guys prepare for another season of Valencia on the right with a few minutes of Dalot mixed in between.
More kicking it in the shins instead of crossing it on Lukaku's head.
More kicking it in the shins instead of crossing it on Lukaku's head.
Valencia is crap. If Dalot is any good at all it won't take long for him to be first choice and for Valencia to be back up.
You don't believe that do you ?
He is 19 years old, just made his very first appearances for Porto's first team. Kid like that needs time to learn and make mistakes. You can forget Mourinho will give him that time whilst he has loyal old trusty kick it in the shins Valencia on the bench. He will get a runout every now and then and maybay even a start when he does well but next season it will be Valencia as our main rightback player again.
Can't imagine getting so stroppy about our transfer window on the 29th of May.
Why would Mourinho even buy him if that’s the case?
I think it's pretty evident that we certainly need to upgrade on both Valencia and Young who have restricted and limited our play at times especially when going forward. They have both been great servants to the club and without a doubt performed a lot better than many expected in specific games. However we have been needing investment in both full-back positions for a while now and that should be our main aim in the transfer window.
It seems apparent that we are close to signing Diogo Dalot who plays on the right side of the defence, this I consider a gamble but one most definitely worth taking. Dalot seems to have a lot of promise and has shown signs not only of his talent right now but also his future potential. With a relatively low fee, this gives us room to also invest in other keys areas including the left-hand side of defence.
Alex Sandro is a player that has been heavily linked with us by many reliable reports. This would be a more assured signing giving his experience and performance on the European stage as well as his international credentials. Kieren Tierney would be another great option for the left-hand side but with Dalot seemingly coming in already then I think Sandro would be a better fit to balance things out on both sides in terms of experience.
However Valencia and Young can both serve as great back-up options while also maximising our squad depth and maintaining that experience needed within the squad.
It seems apparent that we are close to signing Diogo Dalot who plays on the right side of the defence, this I consider a gamble but one most definitely worth taking. Dalot seems to have a lot of promise and has shown signs not only of his talent right now but also his future potential. With a relatively low fee, this gives us room to also invest in other keys areas including the left-hand side of defence.
Alex Sandro is a player that has been heavily linked with us by many reliable reports. This would be a more assured signing giving his experience and performance on the European stage as well as his international credentials. Kieren Tierney would be another great option for the left-hand side but with Dalot seemingly coming in already then I think Sandro would be a better fit to balance things out on both sides in terms of experience.
However Valencia and Young can both serve as great back-up options while also maximising our squad depth and maintaining that experience needed within the squad.
in what universe.Have you ever seen Sessegnon play? Putting him at left back would completely nullify his best attributes. He's a winger with an eye for goal.
Thought he was moved to winger when Fulham didn't have better attacking options, but to answer your question, no I haven't seen him play enough besides on the England squad.
I get Blind vibes, few good national performances full of amazing crosses that will never be replicated in a United shirt.
No they brought Matt Target in to release him to play a more attacking role
Dalot isn't a young FB from United's academy or a young FB that a previous manager signed. Mourinho is signing this 19 year old RB over a half dozen more experienced RBs because he was impressed with what he saw the kid do at Anfield in the knockout stage of CL. If a #1 LB is signed, I could see both Young and Dalot getting more time than Valencia at RB next season.
Reports Mourinho doesn't want a LB again.
He would drive me up the wall next season, if he starts moaning again.
I really don't want to hear any fecking excuse about not being able to compete with City.
He would drive me up the wall next season, if he starts moaning again.
I really don't want to hear any fecking excuse about not being able to compete with City.
I don't think it's a coincidence United have briefed the media today that they allegedly have no interest in Sandro anymore and that they have numerous alternatives to Alderweireld. IMO this is a negotiating tactic as both Juventus and Tottenham are playing hard ball in an attempt to extract a larger fee from United.
Juventus may be doing something similar with the reports of their interest im Cancelo. Perhaps everyone blinks apart from Levy.
I would sincerely hope its just brinksmanship.
The thought of going into yet another season with a makeshift LB of 33 years of age, doesn't inspire any confidence.
If Young plays like he did in the first half of the season, it'll be fine. But once he missed those few games (suspension if I remember correctly) he never really got going again.
No please. Young does a commendable job given that he was previously a winger. But we don't need commendable job. To move to the next level, we need quality. Looking at the full backs in teams like Real Madrid or City, we can never get to elite level till we upgrade these positions. Seems like we have marked out Dalot as a 1-2 year replacement for Valencia, it is absolutely crucial that Young is not first choice next season for any possibility of a title.
I haven't seen Dalot, but some people say that he could be used as RW. I hope we signed an experienced winger and use Dalot as a rotation player with Valencia.
BTW, any idea how much Tierney would cost?
BTW, any idea how much Tierney would cost?
This is certainly true.
We are not a team aspiring to make top 4 every season and be happy. We are aiming to win big trophies and if this is the case, we can't afford to have players who are doing a commendable job.
We need a proper left back.
I miss Evra....
It just shows our quality really has dropped. If you look at the 08 finals lineup, you could bring in one of Pogba or Sanchez for Hargreaves if you don't think it unbalances the side, and Valencia for Brown would help in possession but cost you a bit aerially and De Gea is better than Van Der Sar though not by a ton considering what VDS brought to the table, and that's it. And Matic could probably replace Carrick without anyone noticing, or vice-versa. So basically one upgrade and 2 possible choices that would really be dependent on opponent and tactics.
But if you reverse it, Evra-Vidic-Rio all start at the back and Scholes definitely comes into midfield with Ronaldo out right and either Tevez or Rooney up top with the other a great option off the bench. So 6 clear upgrades and 2-3 maybes (RB, DM, Sanchez vs one of Rooney or Tevez out of position out left)
Since we have the former chief scout of Juve working for us now Sandro must be extremely well scouted. If we do not lodge a bid for Sandro then it is probably a very good reason for not doing so.
That's a very fair point.
Not even close. Matic is a little better at carrying the ball forward himself and at being able to win physical duels, but Carrick comfortably beats him everywhere else. Most notably his passing and control of the team is lightyears ahead of Matic.
If we don’t sign Sandro then we have to sign an alternative first choice left back because Young wasn’t good enough at his peak to be first choice left wing which is his natural position yet years past his peak he’s supposedly our first choice left back in Jose’s eyes ?
Telles, Tierney, Rose, Gaya, Bernard or anyone that’s better than what we’ve got and a natural left back is an upgrade but hopefully this is cat and mouse for us over Sandro and we are in for him as he’s a top 5 in the world left back and would arguably be the best left back in the league.
Telles, Tierney, Rose, Gaya, Bernard or anyone that’s better than what we’ve got and a natural left back is an upgrade but hopefully this is cat and mouse for us over Sandro and we are in for him as he’s a top 5 in the world left back and would arguably be the best left back in the league.
Where do I apply? I'm overweight and have to have a rest once I complete a sprint of any distance (much like Shaw), but I'm happy to play dirty, I can follow basic instructions (unlike Shaw) and with access to all the tactical nous and feedback from the Caf, I'm bound to be effective on the pitch. I am older than 29, but I've never had much pace so have nothing to lose.
I'm also cheap, a mere 20K a week tax free (cash only) and a 5year+1 contract. No performance related bonuses, and I want a release clause of £200m if Barcelona come calling.
I'm also cheap, a mere 20K a week tax free (cash only) and a 5year+1 contract. No performance related bonuses, and I want a release clause of £200m if Barcelona come calling.
Salah? Pocket?
Evra and Ronaldo to reunite at utd 
Phil Jones did the same to Ronaldo a few years ago, Herrera with Hazard and Smalling regularly does the same with Kane so I’m not sure if you’re implying that one great game last season constitutes Young being first choice left back next season ? As by that logic Smalling, Jones and Herrera must also be first choice.
If our only addition to Young, Valencia and a dysfunctional Shaw is a young Dalot, then I think no matter who we get up front, Jose will be gone by January. We will continue to be frustrated by teams and we will continue to transition from Defence to attack achingly slowly. The fans and players will be in revolt and things will get messy very quickly.
We need effective and pacey fullbacks to provide threat, space and the ability to overwhelm a massed defence. I don't want to deride Valencia and young as they have done sterling service for the team over the years but they are not able to provide a consistent threat over the course of a season.
City will have a 2 or 3 game hangover at some point early next season and this will be our only opportunity to establish a positive points differential. if we don't hit the ground running we will be trailing in their wake once again and players will start to coast again. If Jose goes longer term with a younger prospect as he seems to have done with Dalot then I can accept that, but if we buy no-one else then we are set for the doldrums again.
We need effective and pacey fullbacks to provide threat, space and the ability to overwhelm a massed defence. I don't want to deride Valencia and young as they have done sterling service for the team over the years but they are not able to provide a consistent threat over the course of a season.
City will have a 2 or 3 game hangover at some point early next season and this will be our only opportunity to establish a positive points differential. if we don't hit the ground running we will be trailing in their wake once again and players will start to coast again. If Jose goes longer term with a younger prospect as he seems to have done with Dalot then I can accept that, but if we buy no-one else then we are set for the doldrums again.
No it really won't be fine, or 'fine' isn't good enough.
LB is a glaring weak spot for us, everyone surely acknowledges that, we really cannot continue with this 'make do & mend' mentality.