Fullbacks for the summer

I think Young and Valencia will remain as first choice, with a young replacement coming in for Shaw - either Sessegnon or Tierney. TFM will be back up for Valencia.

Both Young and Valencia are dependable in defence and can be relied upon to play every week without too many fitness issues.

I know we all clamour for the overlapping fullback, myself included, but I think Mourinho will look to improve our attack through midfield, a right winger or a defender with quicker distribution.
 
AkaAkuma said:
I think Young and Valencia will remain as first choice, with a young replacement coming in for Shaw - either Sessegnon or Tierney. TFM will be back up for Valencia.

Both Young and Valencia are dependable in defence and can be relied upon to play every week without too many fitness issues.

I know we all clamour for the overlapping fullback, myself included, but I think Mourinho will look to improve our attack through midfield, a right winger or a defender with quicker distribution.
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We have a 33 year old with zero cover and a 32 year old with cover that just can’t be trusted.

If we’re not addressing the fullback positions, we won’t be making any moves at all in the market this summer.
 
Pexbo said:
We have a 33 year old with zero cover and a 32 year old with cover that just can’t be trusted.

If we’re not addressing the fullback positions, we won’t be making any moves at all in the market this summer.
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I'd also add that we would have zero chance of getting anywhere near City if we go into next season with a back four that includes Valencia/Young.
Two fullbacks absolutely have to be priority signings,surely?
 
Pexbo said:
We have a 33 year old with zero cover and a 32 year old with cover that just can’t be trusted.

If we’re not addressing the fullback positions, we won’t be making any moves at all in the market this summer.
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As I said I think we'll address it with young cover, sessegnon and TFM. That's based on Mourinhos comments on Young getting 50 games, players he trusts (Valencia & Young), his need to improve midfield and his inability to make the perfect squad.

It's not a popular thought, but could very well be how the summer plays out.
 
reddevilzZ said:
If shaw is gone the we need to sign a LB for sure. Cant figure out whats the transfer strategy for us this year but I am pretty sure we wont sign more than 2 players ( 3 max if Martial is out of the way ). People who are expecting us to sign 4-5 players this summer will be disappointed very much.

As many suggested I think Jose is planning to Use Valencia/Young as right back option for another year. I guess TFM will be allowed to leave on loan for another year. Not sure people will agree with me but I believe we should start putting O'connor in the first team soon. The kid has all the talent and mentality to be one of the very best right backs if nurtured properly. Valencia/young as right back choices with O'connor getting his chance during league cup is the way forward for me for next season.

To me Shaw is gone this summer and he needs a fresh start too for the sake of his career. If thats the case then we definitely need a LB for sure but I hope we don,t bring the over hyped and over rated ones like Rose ( his injury record is worse than Jones) and Sandro ( Not sure how much he will improve us ) and when I looks across the whole Europe I cannot find one who is attainable and will improve us dramatically. But I fully expect us to go for Sandro if shaw is moving out.
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Agree with your suggestion on O Connor, worth intergrating into the 1st team squad.
 
marktan said:
Marcelo and Alaba bombing down the wings all game shows just how important getting top full backs in for us would be. Arguably Real and Bayern's best players today.
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It also tells us that it's important to pay the price, when the quality ones are available. There's a bit of a draught in good up and coming full-backs at the moment I think.
 
AkaAkuma said:
I think Young and Valencia will remain as first choice, with a young replacement coming in for Shaw - either Sessegnon or Tierney. TFM will be back up for Valencia.

Both Young and Valencia are dependable in defence and can be relied upon to play every week without too many fitness issues.

I know we all clamour for the overlapping fullback, myself included, but I think Mourinho will look to improve our attack through midfield, a right winger or a defender with quicker distribution.
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The whole “buy Sessegnon as our left back” thing really has to stop as he is NOT a left back as proven this season and would be a complete waste of his talent and our money to play him as a left back, if Martial goes I’d sign Sessegnon as Sanchez’s back up on the left up top or to mound him into a right inside forward ala Bale, Mahrez and Douglas Costa.

The full back positions ARE a priority and we need better in BOTH full back positions especially left back so Alex Sandro simply has to be our number one target as he’s world class AND available it seems, Dani Alves did his cruciates so Meunier will surely be a no go but right back is just as big a priority as left back.
 
davidmichael said:
The whole “buy Sessegnon as our left back” thing really has to stop as he is NOT a left back as proven this season and would be a complete waste of his talent and our money to play him as a left back, if Martial goes I’d sign Sessegnon as Sanchez’s back up on the left up top or to mound him into a right inside forward ala Bale, Mahrez and Douglas Costa.

The full back positions ARE a priority and we need better in BOTH full back positions especially left back so Alex Sandro simply has to be our number one target as he’s world class AND available it seems, Dani Alves did his cruciates so Meunier will surely be a no go but right back is just as big a priority as left back.
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I'm just putting out a point of view that might be more Mourinhos thinking.

As for Sessegnon, based solely on his YouTube, he strikes me as potentially having a career similiar to Young. He's bagged some goals at a young age, but his all round game looks no more than above average. But with his defensive ability he probably has more than enough to mold into a very good full back, ala Young and Rose.
 
If we don't get at least one adequate replacement we won't win the league next year. We need two and everybody knows it. I've never been as sure that we are lacking in this area for years. I'm usually optimistic going in to every season but time to be realistic. We lack width and real quality going forward from our full backs, need better options for our defenders and midfield to build up play. People that are still hoping for Shaw need to wake up, not happening under this manager. Jose's comments about Young are beyond worrying. Him and Valencia are back up players, anyone that wants them starting isn't watching United. Getting past your man and deliver a good cross, then getting back to a defensive position quickly. This is the demand that is not being met. Cutting back to deliver a cross is not what we need for Rom by Young. Valencia can do neither. Don't want a stupid galactico signing, I want areas that will be addressed with good energetic players. Need to get some life in to our play again.
 
mufc_forever_fan said:
Cancelo? Anyone watched him?
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:lol:Haha, in my Fifa 18 player career mode, United have Cancelo on the right with Theo Hernandez on the left. As for an actual fullback, why not try TFM? Hes played on the right side of a 3 man back, pace and power but just a bit rough around the edges. With the right coaching, he could be an amazing alternative to overspending on an established or player.
 
It's B Rubble said:
:lol:Haha, in my Fifa 18 player career mode, United have Cancelo on the right with Theo Hernandez on the left. As for an actual fullback, why not try TFM? Hes played on the right side of a 3 man back, pace and power but just a bit rough around the edges. With the right coaching, he could be an amazing alternative to overspending on an established or player.
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Well he's currently #3 right back, behind Aaron Wan-Bissaka & Joel Ward in the pecking order at Crystal Palace. I think that would be a indication as to the risk it would be.

Not completely writing him off or anything, obviously it makes sense for Palace to develop their own player in Wan-Bissaka over a loaned one, I do think a lot of Utd fans overrate out youngsters though. I remember arguing with a mate a couple of years ago who SWORE Januzaj was better than Griezmann. I think TFM has more of a future as a Centre Midfielder, based on what I've seen anyway.
 
Personally think a centre back is the number one priority defensively this summer at least. This season at least we have been able to trust to a dergree Valencia and Young who yes are both ageing but is there a single centre back that we can at the moment?

We NEED a centre back this summer and to move a couple out. We NEED a central midfielder with Carrick and probably Fellaini leaving with rumours of Herrera doing so too.

That for me is the two absolute musts this summer. Shaw has had injuries and doesnt quite looke right, but he is just as good talent wise as anybody we are being linked with, everybody is saying Sandro, but playing devils advocate what has he done this year himself? Mourinho seems to have something he doesnt like about Shaw, shame for me, but if he is moving on of course a left back is needed. Right back this summer cover is needed if Darmian goes. I also think we really need a proper right winger for balance, Lingard has done very well often playing there but he isnt a right winger and Mata has never been a right winger.

People saying two or three, I hope this isnt right we have to sign four players and it should be six, we just arent going to move out the number of players linked to be moving even though most of them really should be.

The money we have spent post Fergie, pre-Mourinho and even with Mourinho, it is amazing just how short we are. Could argue up to six positions could be dramatically improved...that is more than half the side. It is almost like bar a handful of players we are a rung down on what we should have. We have lots of first eleven players who should be squad players, a couple of first team players who shouldnt even be squad players. A handful of decent squad players and a handful of squad players should be moved on.

Bare minimum we should be doing this summer in my opinion is signing four playres, moving on six players and having a couple more youngsters in the first team squad.
 
Most of the talk seems to be either Cedric or Hysaj for right back, and Alex Sandro for left back. Would be a good 90m that probably, but both very good players at good ages.
 
Read a report somewhere that United has already a deal in place with Napoli for Elseid Hysaj. Apparently, we are to pay his buyout clause of €50m.

Solid rb for me & fast as feck. Definitely an upgrade on Valencia. Still can't help but wonder if we could have gotten Ricardo Pereira for less.

Still happy we're linked to a right back for a change though & great if we can wrap this fella up early
 
I have seen people suggesting Sessegnon. I'm not sure he can play as left back, maybe he could play as a wingback if we play with a back 3. In that case, I would go for Adama Traore as right wingback.

De Gea
Bailly - Jones - NewCB
Adama - Matic - Pogba - Sessegnon
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Lukaku - Sanchez
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If we add a CB like Alderweireld/Umtiti, and a top No.10 like Eriksen/Dybala, we could make that formation work.
 
sideshow_bob said:
Read a report somewhere that United has already a deal in place with Napoli for Elseid Hysaj. Apparently, we are to pay his buyout clause of €50m.

Solid rb for me & fast as feck. Definitely an upgrade on Valencia. Still can't help but wonder if we could have gotten Ricardo Pereira for less.

Still happy we're linked to a right back for a change though & great if we can wrap this fella up early
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I saw those rumors about Elseid Hysaj yesterday too but I think that they originated from either The Sun or The Metro so I think it's unlikely to be true.
 
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Not seeing much about a RB coming. We need a RB just as much as we need a LB. Valencia is not good enough in the final third. His crossing is poor. He is also one footed, can't do anything with his left.
 
I think any of Hysaj, Odriozola or Ricardo Pereira are upgrades on what we have but in my opinion left back, central midfield and a right sided forward are the priority areas then right back and centre back.

If someone asked me if I’d accept Alex Sandro, Thiago and a world class right sided forward but that be our only three signings this summer then I’d take it and let Valencia and Young rotate at right back and keep Shaw as back up to Alex Sandro then summer 2019 I’d sign a new right back, centre back, defensive midfielder and a striker IF Rashford becomes a left sided forward rather than a central striker.
 
Jig1234 said:
Not seeing much about a RB coming. We need a RB just as much as we need a LB. Valencia is not good enough in the final third. His crossing is poor. He is also one footed, can't do anything with his left.
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He is very cautious with his left footed passing though, it’s proper infuriating
 
Ditch Blind and Darmian. Bring in Nelson Semedo, Alex Sandro and Joao Miranda.. our defence would be the best in the league.
 
Papers linking Leicester with a 25mil move for Ricardo Pereira. If that the price seems awful cheap given what good fullbacks go for now adays. Would enjoy seeing him at United.
 
Andersons Dietician said:
Papers linking Leicester with a 25mil move for Ricardo Pereira. If that the price seems awful cheap given what good fullbacks go for now adays. Would enjoy seeing him at United.
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That's a great price. We should go for him. Definitely an upgrade on Valencia.
 
I haven't seen most of the full backs playing live but I just checked the important stats on squawka. The players I chose were Ricardo Pereira, Hysaj, Odriozola, Cedric and Valencia. Ricardo clearly stands out. He is defensively better and has more goals, assists and key passes than all others.
 
Andersons Dietician said:
Papers linking Leicester with a 25mil move for Ricardo Pereira. If that the price seems awful cheap given what good fullbacks go for now adays. Would enjoy seeing him at United.
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If Pereira is available at £25 million and we end up with Sandro for £35 million plus Darmian then we’ve done an unreal job in fixing two of four biggest problem positions in our team, Pereira and Sandro are both HUGE upgrades on what we have and for a combined £60 million cash we’d have pulled off a master stroke.

If we then raised funds by selling Johnstone, Blind, Lindelof or Rojo, Martial and Wilson as well as Fellaini and Carrick off the wage bill then we could realistically still sign Alderweireld, a world class playmaker and a world class right sided forward as well as both full back positions fixed.
 
saying it for weeks we should go for Ricardo Pereira, he's only getting better and for £25m that's peenuts for a player of his quality.
 
Who do you think is a better right back? Ricardo Pereira, Meunier, Sibide, Odriozola or Cedric?
 
sideshow_bob said:
Is 25m his buyout clause ?
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£33m buyout but Leicester confident of getting him for £25m. Even at £33m it's a great deal... Think of it like Alex Sandro, went from Porto where he was very very promising to Juve and became top 5 LBs in the world. Imo Pereira is in the exact same position. I hope we get him... but no links so far.

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Who do you think is a better right back? Ricardo Pereira, Meunier, Sibide, Odriozola or Cedric?
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Ricardo has it all to be a top top RB/WB, improving every season. did great with Nice on loan and even better this year. I'd sign R.Pereira over the rest without thought.
 
Looks like by going with the reports anyway Sandro looks the top choice for the LB, think for RB i quite liked the look of Odrozola, seen him a limited number of times to be fair, looks a very good crosser of the ball and has a good engine on him to get up and down, minded me more of a gary neville sort of defender, anyone seen a lot of him to give a more in depth scouting of him ?
 
The guy from Fulham is a must. Hell i would even give them Shaw part exchange. Watched him quite a few times this season and what potential. For the right side, the guy from Athletico looks solid Vrsaljko and also Meunier from PSG could be a good bet.
 
Phil Jones 79 said:
The guy from Fulham is a must. Hell i would even give them Shaw part exchange. Watched him quite a few times this season and what potential. For the right side, the guy from Athletico looks solid Vrsaljko and also Meunier from PSG could be a good bet.
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I'm not sure about Vrsaljko being good enough but I do like Meunier. They've both got the right age as well. The thing is, Vrsaljko and Meunier are both at big clubs already and it would be difficult enough to convince them to make the move, nevermind what they would cost. PSG are not going to let Meunier go with Alves being old and his long-term injury. He's got two years remaining on his deal and is probably the future for them. Same goes for Vrsaljko, except his contract runs till 2022 so would be even more expensive. We should be looking at more attainable targets.

If we get a LB like Sandro then Young could move to the right with Shaw being the back-up at LB. That way we could postpone buying a new RB for another year. That would give talents like TFM more time to mature and make a stake for the spot, saving us money in the progress. I think that's a better plan than buying someone like Cedric from Sotton who's never going to be world-class.
 
ArjenIsM3 said:
I'm not sure about Vrsaljko being good enough but I do like Meunier. They've both got the right age as well. The thing is, Vrsaljko and Meunier are both at big clubs already and it would be difficult enough to convince them to make the move, nevermind what they would cost. PSG are not going to let Meunier go with Alves being old and his long-term injury. He's got two years remaining on his deal and is probably the future for them. Same goes for Vrsaljko, except his contract runs till 2022 so would be even more expensive. We should be looking at more attainable targets.
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Meunier would almost certainly be eager for a move to us as he's a self-confessed Utd fan and would like to play in England some day, plus he's not happy with how things went at PSG this season. The big problem as you said would be convincing PSG to sell, particularly with Alves getting injured.
 
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