Answer: Erik ten Hag! He is pushing this and basically making a mockery of our recruitment department which is incompetent, as we already know.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Half the money, the loss of his deferred wages and fewer chances to play, many of which will come in a position he doesn’t really want to play. Plus they’ll try the same trick next summer when they decide to make the switch to three ply toilet roll. “Put yer pen away, Xav, I’ll be signing this little beaut in my own blood. Let’s make this mother properly official.”
It doesn’t make any sense. If FDJ doesn’t want to move to us (which is a possibility), then he has no reason to take a pay cut where he is
Good post
After knowing that Helena Condis is out on tour with them, i'd probably be more inclined to believe her if she said something along the lines of FdJ was happy to take the pay cut, as she'd likely hear it first hand being there.
This guy is probably using his "sources" which is probably the kit man or something to write his story. The fact that they're contradicting eachother on a daily basis is telling me that no one really has any idea whats going on. What we do know is that Barca want him out, they want to sign Kounde and Silva is possible, but to make more signings, they need to sell, and de Jong is top of the sell list at this minute in time
Wonder how much longer it'll take before the last of those in denial will accept this isn't happening. He doesn't want to leave, and we've wasted months gambling on him changing his mind in the hope he'll feel like he's being forced out
I agree, we've done everything right here. ten Hag has had assurances from de Jong and he's gone with them.
I still believe that he'll come and there is no way he's going to take this 50% cut as he's be a lunatic to do so
People can think what they like. Why does it matter to you?
He has a contract. He doesn’t have to do anything. He is within his rights to stay and make them pay the full wages as stated in the existing contract.
Spanish Media are so so so inconsistent
If we do end up failing to get him, we will typically start making frantic bids for last minute alternatives with clubs asking triple what their player is worth knowing our despair.Typical. We should have already be inquiring about other players and even making bids. We need more than one midfielder incoming anyway ffs.
Eh? This is just an assumption based on some reports that they talked over the phone, and that ETH "wouldn't be that stupid"
You seem shocked by this hahaNot even mentioning us
Don’t think we will. Ten Hag has said as much. It will only be for the right player or we will look to develop someone until that opportunity comes along.
Different approach now let’s not forget
Little know fact: Frenkie would make an excellent backup keeper…for Barca B.
This is how I see it, plus there's no guarantee that Kessie will make it at Barca and Busquets is ageing too.
He's obviously settled in Barcelona and it was his dream club. If playing CB means that he'll get to play for them and get the €17m, he's probably very happy with that.
Barca could always terminate his contract, but then he would be a free agent and they would still have to pay him out, Barca just basically want what they have no right to expect, it is crazy
I mean I agree, but surely we have to at least be asking barca what the ferk the plan is on their end. Idk maybe we are and its not getting out, but this is definitely the strangest saga I’ve seen in my 28 years as a fan. Something has to give and soon, the season’s almost here.
That's not how it works
Which part of ’ former manager who gave him his break and knows his strengths inside out’ do you will fully ignore?
He won't be getting that money. They want him to take another pay cut, so he'll likely be foregoing the €17m and signing a new contract on half of what he's on now.
Yeah our hands were tied and if the season starts miserably we can always hope for next summer where "we finally can have a pre-season". By the way, did I understand you correctly - you think, he is coming?
It's in the bag.
Man, I really like ETH but what the feck, we need to sign midfielders desperately. Develop who? We are Matic Pogba Mata out and our midfield was shit before that.
To be fair this dude is tier 5 on the Barca Subreddit.
Generally speaking though, yeah, the Spanish media's stories rarely seem to align on this one.
Well they could.... after they buy it out
I agree. I do think we have a back up for De Jong though.
Yep i believe he's still going to come. I honestly don't think he'll take another pay cut and being played in CB when they've got a new CB in Kounde arriving soon
you mean Barca, right?
I know they're living in bizarro world where right is wrong, wrong is right and it's winter in Australia now, but I don't see that happening
Same.
What he says and what he thinks are probably to different things (that rhymes). But in case we really go with the option we have, all involved will take a big hit trustwise. Definitely not a good outlook. And thats not even going to the details how a plan looks like where Fred and FDJ seeming are supposed to be able to play the same role....
Hope the board buys players for the manager, just not his primary target who is central to his plans for our team.
So if he prefers to be a back up CB, forget most of his deferred wages and the way he is treated than move to a club that plays him well under a manager he showed his best football, his character does not seem right for us. Stay where you are.
Then again I would not be surprised if he moves to abother club end of August
Then again I would not be surprised if he moves to abother club end of August
If he takes a 50% paycut after already agreeing to defer his wages and after Barca tried to sell him and Barca have just spent over £100m on players then hes an idiot.
Are Barcelona responsible for us still having McFred as our first choice midfield two weeks before the start of the season?
Mate I was screwing with you
if there is anybody on here who after the hundreds of posts didn't have an idea on your stance, then all is lost.Back on topic - I wouldn't give too much on the whole CB topic. I mean, we had Telles playing midfield in a pre season game. It doesn't necessarily need to mean much. As soon as Busquets finally steps down, their need for a player like FDJ will double. We might also have to imagine, that FDJ likes what Barca is doing from a team building standpoint. They added a few good players, have a seemingly good coach. I mean he bought a house there and has marriage coming up, so maybe, he is fine with staying where he is.
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