Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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The 60-70m price being quoted for him would already be selling at a loss.
He cost them 86m
I agree, think we should target Phillips aswell as FDJ, he won’t cost much either if Leeds are relegated. FDJ could be the one to transform our midfield if ten Hag is looking to play possession football which is more then likely. I think we need to be smart about our business and look into the free transfer markets, there’s some absolute ballers in there and will be able to play without the price tag pressure.
This isn’t happening.
Time to get our De Jong's out?
All about being English. Not only do English players cost a lot more but there worse then the foreign players
He wouldn’t dislodge either Rodri or Fabinho…not even close. He’d walk into United’s midfield though.
All English players? That have ever played? Bit of a broad statement. But maybe you’re right.All about being English. Not only do English players cost a lot more but there worse then the foreign players
To be frenk, yes!
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Obviously some are good but teams are always getting ripped of for English players when there’s much better abroad and cheaper. Like city signing ake 40mil or grealish for 100m could sign at least 2/3 decent players for 100m. obviously city needed English players though so that’s why they overpaid.No, as in if Barcelona can't get rid of the players they want to get rid of and balance their books, they will have to sell players they don't really want to sell, like De Jong, which would benefit us.
That poster hasn’t made a positive post in their life
In football? Not quite there yet. If a club wants to sell a player who doesn't really want to leave (and the player has actual value), then the club usually succeeds in selling.
Bruno (Advanced Playmaker)
De Jong (Deeplying Playmaker) Fred (Ball winner)
De Jong (Deeplying Playmaker) Fred (Ball winner)
"The only problem is Xavi wants to keep him"
Sounds like a fairly big one if the player is also unfussed about moving. Whole thing seems like total bollocks to be honest.
If we get him I think we've got to get some solidity in the side too. De Jong to control things, Fred's energy and pressing, and somebody that will support those two and do a solid job would be required.
Sounds like a fairly big one if the player is also unfussed about moving. Whole thing seems like total bollocks to be honest.
If we get him I think we've got to get some solidity in the side too. De Jong to control things, Fred's energy and pressing, and somebody that will support those two and do a solid job would be required.
All for FDJ but my fear is that Bruno will simply undo his good work by not taking care of the ball
It's fine if Bruno is taking risks as part of the front 3 like Ziyech. The issue is when he's playing in a position that's designed to retain the ball.
He's hardly going to say he's happy to see him go,I'm sure he has said he understands that the board have to make certain decisions in order to be able to make future transfers and De Jong is on a pretty big wage.
Barcelona don't want for good midfielders with Kessie on his way too.
Definitely legs to this story.
This would have been mine:
Ronaldo (Striker)
Bruno (Wide Playmaker) VDB (Attacking Mid) Sancho (Winger)
De Jong (Libero) Kamara (Deeplying Playmaker)
Bruno (Wide Playmaker) VDB (Attacking Mid) Sancho (Winger)
De Jong (Libero) Kamara (Deeplying Playmaker)
Sure but if I'm Xavi and I have a vision of the way I want Barcelona to play, there are probably other players to lose if players must be sold. Not this guy that's a Barcelona player written all over him even if he hasn't always hit the heights or found the right role. I get that he's on a packet, but it just seems to me that if the manager doesn't want him to go, he doesn't really want to go by all accounts, it's not actually that likely. Worth exploring but I'm not optimistic, I'll be amazed if it does happen.
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Ake? You mean this bloke?
I think this is happening, if you think about it, there is only one outcome and only one club desperate to pay whatever it takes as we are so shit in midfield + ETH
Serious lack of pace in there.
Looking at Ajax this season and 18/19, I don’t think ‘’lack of pace‘’ would be a problem.
If he has no interest in coming here we should stay well clear. He's exceptional on his day but we need to sign players that are hungry to prove themselves; I am hoping that he is such an individual.
We're not Ajax though, in the PL I think he has a point. Generally teams have a cutting edge going forward. Somebody that can break lines, make a run, take someone on. I think dominating possession and creating opportunities in the Dutch league is a very different thing to what will be required here. I think everyone successful at the top end has more dynamism up front than this lineup.
And the Champions League?
That’s Ruud Gullit mateAke? You mean this bloke?
Ake? You mean this bloke?
I'll never forgive him for defecting and aiding Cromwell in the Anglo Dutch war. English cnut.To be fair, Ake does qualify for homegrown.
Ake? You mean this bloke?
Ake isn't English but he is a home-grown player, maybe that's why he cost city 40m pounds, he wasn't worth that much at the time, coming from a relegated Bournemouth
If that’s the case then we shouldn’t have hire ten Hag. They did it in champions league and it wasn’t an issue. It’s not like we are talking about Mata’s level of pace here.
The pace you are demanding seems to be only good for counter attack system to break opponent high line but they had no issue to beat Dortmund this season with the likes of Tadic and Antony on the wing, Haller as striker and blind as their full back. Play passing move quick football can be effective to break lines and can also effective against team that sit deep.
What’s this discussion about pace? Do you guys actually watch him at Barca? He has plenty of pace.
It was about a proposed line up that had Bruno Ronaldo Sancho as a front 3, not FDJ.
Nah he isn't the issue here, far from it - it's Bruno and Sancho on the wings where there's a slight problem.
It's not the same competition as the PL as the games play differently and much of the competition is continental. Nobody plays with such a pedestrian looking forward line at the top end of the PL. Maybe it's possible but it might simply be shooting himself in the foot. Spurs have Son's driving runs, Liverpool have Mane (or any of their forwards in fact), City have Foden and Mahrez who have very underrated speed and agility and can beat people.
I feel we're getting a little carried away with this idea of Dutch possession football when we're putting 2 playmakers that want everything to feet out wide alongside a 38 year old. Needs more balance and I don't think ETH would make this mistake. Even within his own lineup he would play Antony, and it's well known a striker or two will be targeted, so I think it's clear he's never going to fall for this.
Ah gotcha, my bad. Yea I can see that being a problem. I am extremely excited this season to see Sancho under ETH btw. I think he will flourish!
I truly hope you guys can make this happen. He would be the answer to your midfield problems and will know exactly how to play under ETH. I’m truly excited because I see it happening. He will pick UTD over PSG anyday (if they come in with a cheeky bid).
Not English but home grown… city was desperate for home grown players which is why they bought Delph ffs of all peopleAke? You mean this bloke?
Just hold your hands up on this one la’
Shrager coming in to ruin your day a little more
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