Wish we'd signed him under OGS so that we could've seen the "Frenkie goes to Ole-Wood" headline
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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he’s not a DM but he operates in the double pivot and he’s a controller type
i think he’s exactly what we need but we need a specialist DM as well, fo sho
Very different player to Cesc.
i didn’t believe it, didn’t believe Di Maria either
so officially not believing this one, its clearly bollocks
Some players won't come to United because we're not in the CL next season. It's a lot harder now to break into the top 4 as well. I can't see any player we'd be interested in choosing to go to Newcastle because they might be challenging for top 4 in 3 or 4 years time. As for 23/24 that seems ridiculously ambitious to me.
And if we didn’t we’d still need a playmaker. We need more than one starting midfielder. De Jong is the best of one of the types we need that we can get. Let’s deal with the DM afterwards.
we always needed two midfielders anyway, no matter who we buy
none of our mids are good enough for Ten Hag, in my opinion
but they could be useful backups
This lack of CL is actually overstated. From next year, EPL will get 5 CL places . With this team, if we can't make it to 5 or if FDJ thinks we can't do it, then he isn't really motivated to do it.
That's what people don't get. This whole sentiment that breaking up play is all we need is wrong. The passing and playmaking ability in our midfield, or entire team, is piss poor.
I agree. Fred and McT may drop down even further with Garner coming back.
One thing for certain. ten Hag wont just settle. he will get the players playing the way he wants or move them on.
Given that Ajax played Burnley pre-season a few years ago, when we play them they could ask “Frenkie…do you remember Mee?”
having read the more recent tweets, its already over isnt it, this muppet train has derailed. oh well, weve had a whole summer of it, in just 24 hours.
I was thinking David Moyes.
Barca would reportedly accept 60m for him this summer
Sounds like the right fee given how highly rated he isn't but isn't absolutely untouchable for them either?
what tweets?
Tchouameni was my most wanted but I’d be happy with De Jong + Bissouma/another
All noises that Barca want to sell and they are seemingly inviting United to bid and show them the money. Frenkie would be on the next plane out to Carrington if United make an offer
Bissouma, however good, got a similar case pending like Mason Greenwood. I think we got enough with one case at the time.
I don't think we can persuade him to ignore CL clubs and choose us without us handing him a massive deal, I'd hoped we'd moved on from doing that.
I hope the board doesn't waste to much time pursuing him if it's not really viable.
I hope the board doesn't waste to much time pursuing him if it's not really viable.
To be fair, he won’t be going anywhere that doesn’t match his Barca deal, so whoever takes him if he’s truly available will be paying him a lot. The kind of money 99% of clubs, Liverpool included, cannot afford.
Well I'll be playing my instrument when he signs
I agree. Only our offer would have to be north of any deal from Liverpool, City ect...
I just can't see the deal happening
I dont care really if the players are moving to us for money or other reasons beside loving to play for UTD. I only need them to be professional and wants to play football as a players.
We see too many are now treating football careers as more of a celebrities/star thing because of the social media power they generate and that more or less makes them less focus on football.
We see too many are now treating football careers as more of a celebrities/star thing because of the social media power they generate and that more or less makes them less focus on football.
I am cautiously optimist on this deal
A- Its evident that Barcelona wants him out. Even if they backtrack on this, the damage had already been made
B- De Jong hasn't been that great at Barcelona. If he ends up on the bench at another club then his career as a top tier midfielder will be over. United have no CM, they have just signed his mentor at Ajax, he'll be playing with VDB and we will be throwing loads of cash at him in salaries as a sweetener which would make it almost impossible for us to send him on the bench if things go wrong (think of Fridge).
A- Its evident that Barcelona wants him out. Even if they backtrack on this, the damage had already been made
B- De Jong hasn't been that great at Barcelona. If he ends up on the bench at another club then his career as a top tier midfielder will be over. United have no CM, they have just signed his mentor at Ajax, he'll be playing with VDB and we will be throwing loads of cash at him in salaries as a sweetener which would make it almost impossible for us to send him on the bench if things go wrong (think of Fridge).
I didn't say about anything special between ten Hag and De Jong. I merely refute your claim that IF de Jong move to United, it will be hard for him because he does not have someone to rely on. I pointed out that he actually would have, as we have his former manager who he played quite well under. I didn't say that he will move here because of ten Hag. But IF he does move, then there's a good chance that it will work out
People don't seem to grasp that both dm and cm are needs this summer.
Yeah, hopefully you're right - although with the top 5 potentially getting CL football in the next couple of seasons, it could be a bit easier for Newcastle to challenge sooner. They're probably going to end up on a similar number of points this season to City in their first under their current owners (City 50, Newcastle currently 43), and that's with Newcastle only having one window of activity. I think Newcastle will be serious contenders for the top 5 in the next 2 season, and although we're coming at it from different ends of the table, we're going to start dealing with them as competition on and off the pitch sooner rather than later.
But this is getting away from the main topic here, and I really hope we're in for FDJ/get it over the line.
DM is a bigger priority IMO because as the CM we have Fred who is a decent player, while for DM we have nobody. But yeah we need both, just think CM (Fred replacement) is much lower in the pecking order (DM, ST, RB, RW and then CM for me).
Have a feeling he's not itching to move to us. This could turn out bad I fear. The only reason for positivity is that ETH has coached him before and will know what to expect out of him. I know there are loads of people who are convinced ETH will be roaring success but I'm not so sure. So even knowing Ten Hag wants him doesn't quite convince me. We've all been burned far too much for me to be positive over anything.
ESPN on their own, yes. Sam Marsden, Moisés Llorens, and Rob Dawson, however, are three of their most reliable journalists for football, especially the first two.
Anyways, James Ducker's report basically makes de Jong seem like a bit of a dream signing given the player's desire for CL football if he were to be forced out.
We are the muppets believe him.
Missing out just a year of CL isn’t that much of a big deal to be honest. As long as you pay good wages and players buy into your project and a manager they believe in, they’ll come
The Dutch Fabregas is ready to re-unite with ETH. It's happening.
I don't think he is that good. Odegard has a similar style to him and cost £30m .. admittedly he plays slightly further up the pitch but I think they are similar talent wise.
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