Blind - PL proven, knows the club and managerNot gonna lie. I thought Erik would bring in his top Ajax talent with him. Surprised to hear that Gravenberch decided on Bayern and Timber reluctant to join now. If De Jong doesn't fancy it and Antony doesn't happen either I fancy a deadline day snatch of Haller, Schone and Klaasen.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Must be nice living in the fantasy land of Barcelona, where you can accumulate a billion pound of debt and then continue to sign high profile players and lower players wages at will without consequence.
What a truly ridiculous club.
Not really, he’s ambitious so even if Barcelona no longer want him, he’s more likely to sign for another successful club competing in the top competitions.
What if he says no thanks?
Well, then there will be no salary reduction. Another thing is if that affects him to play more or less and what the relationship with his teammates will be.
Precisely to me you are going to tell me, that I have been predicting this for 5 years.
You lack a lot of information.
Explain to me the consequence of signing high-profile players and lowering players' salaries.
You lack a lot of information.
Based on what? There are no other clubs showing any interest.
If that's the case I have no real problem with the club playing hardball with Barca, might as well try to get the best possible deal for us
Like there were no other clubs in for Nunez?
NSE is closed on Monday in recognition of Juneteenth.
Before June 30 Barcelona will close an economic agreement to end the season with benefits, this is important for financial fair play.
Once this is done, work will be done to close the remaining economic agreements and the players will be registered.
This is the roadmap.
Not sure what you're saying here. I didn't follow the Nunez thing at all so you'll have to enlighten me. Also which clubs are also trying to buy Frenkie?
You're not actually saying anything here at all so we'll leave it there. They'll sell because they have to imo.
I think they will sell because they want to. Very few clubs keep a 19m a year salaried player unless he's not producing to the high expectations set by the club.
Not gonna lie. I thought Erik would bring in his top Ajax talent with him. Surprised to hear that Gravenberch decided on Bayern and Timber reluctant to join now. If De Jong doesn't fancy it and Antony doesn't happen either I fancy a deadline day snatch of Haller, Schone and Klaasen.
Gravenberch has already said that he had already given his word to Bayern by the time ETH became United manager and tried to convince him. Timber by all account is worried about his playing time, even though he shouldn't have a hard time displacing Maguire, Lindelöf or Varane.
Alright, time for our global fans to give him some space, and stop stalking him
Well, yeah they also don't need him with the options they have and he's the most sellable asset.
Cool, sounds like a good way to reduce his price next january / summer.
We should give them a deadline and move away afterwards. Whenever barcelona get back to us we should reduce 5m for every week past that deadline from our final offer till the end of this window.
He probably loses some sort of loyalty bonus if he says he wants to leave, it’s standard practice.
Considering Madrid paid 100m euros for
Tchouameni, 85m euros is not that bad evaluation. Maybe 75m + 10m will get the deal done. According to Romero we have offered 70m , expecting this to close in 2 weeks
Tchouameni, 85m euros is not that bad evaluation. Maybe 75m + 10m will get the deal done. According to Romero we have offered 70m , expecting this to close in 2 weeks
Who knows. Pool signed Nunez within days of their interest being public. Just because there is no other club publically showing interest, doesnt mean there isn’t other clubs interested.
Also just because there isn’t any others interested today, doesn't mean there won’t be tomorrow. That is why it is dangerous to drag out deals publically
Hes a good enough player that i dont particularly care what we pay. All of the prices seem fine to me really. Its just too good an opportunity to get a good deal. And barcelona are too annoying to deal with for me to be inclined to give them a good deal back.
I wouldn't mind throwing a bit extra at an ajax player to get it over the line because dealing with them tends to be discreet and professional. And they dont try to rinse us every time we deal with them.
Not credibally
Bruno, Sancho, Varane.
Granted our management has been shit however we have done very well recently with out signings and negotiations. Will probably end at £60 million with £9 million add ons (€80m) hope hes worth it, my least confident signing since lukaku.
Everybody negotiates ffs our is just more public than most, £10 million could be the difference between signing a full back/ CF/ DM or not.
Granted our management has been shit however we have done very well recently with out signings and negotiations. Will probably end at £60 million with £9 million add ons (€80m) hope hes worth it, my least confident signing since lukaku.
Everybody negotiates ffs our is just more public than most, £10 million could be the difference between signing a full back/ CF/ DM or not.
He was still linked publicly to Liverpool since May and also lot of resources at that time also publicly mentioned he prefers CL football rather than Newcastle and us.
Anyway probably no longer relevant as he's gone but I always get reminded of this when news of us haggling over the price comes up.
Madrid signed anyone else?
Rudiger on a free
It is not ideal but it is what there is.
Barcelona if they don't want to sell him won't. With these economic agreements they do not need it. Another thing is that if Barcelona does not see him essential they prefer to sell it.
But thats not how you evaluate players. Barca doesn’t care if we buy no one after FDJ. They see 22 year old from Monaco who hasn’t done much going for 100m, they will obviously ask for something closer to that. Its upto us to decide what sort of fee we want to pay. But in general i dont think the price is atrocious
You have to take in to account though that Sancho and Varane were on holidays for part of that period before officially signing I think, (correct me if I'm wrong?) so I wouldn't be surprised if they were basically signed during that period, but it just wasn't made official because of those player holidays etc.We officially signed Sancho over a month after the 'far/20m apart' stories too.
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It's going to be same story here, we'll agree the deal with Barca, (maybe we have already) but it won't be official until he's back from holiday some time.
Remember when Romero said like more than a month ago that de Jong will be ten Hag's first signing? He might not be wrong at all.
I see what you mean. It's a balancing act though but as far as all information available goes there's no one else interested. Hopefully, they can stop swinging dicks soon and agree a price.
I don't understand this at all. He's a ball playing midfielder who isn't a #10 those are impossible to find and good teams need them. Much rather spend 70M on him than 30M on a decent DM and 40M on a #10 like Arsenal did with 40M on Odegaard or Vieira and then 20M on a decent but limited DM.
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