Fair enough just sick to the back teeth of this transfer already. Maybe I am being hysterical but we've all been burned too many times and it gets bloody tiresome.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Right - I’m going to add to it by finding another reason why it might not happen
Barcelona are screwed because of all the mental wages they’ve been paying. Presumably Frenkie’s no exception. Maybe United are serious about getting the wages structure under control and won’t match what he’s on currently? That’s more likely to put him off than no CL or the awful weather.
If this is indeed the case, I’d find it very hard to criticise United, given where we are with all the impossible-to-shift deadwood. Ok Frenkie is hardly deadwood right now, but in the future…
You don't want to get into the ineptness of Lindelof but Maguire has just had a few niggling ones and is out of form yea? Even then he was 2x the player Harry was this season. If anything we should start Varane and Lindelof but ofcourse that ain't gonna happen.
I do agree we need another CB though. still think FW is much more of a priority.
It's over
What an absolute canut.
Has he ever used a 3 at the back? Iirc he has always preferred a 433 or 4231
No offense but who TF is this ?
Every year im looking forward to transfer window, i never learn... its torture every window 
Negative news so it must be true. Classic SadCafe.
People like to harp on about the old days but the constant news (yes even disappointments) are a godsend compared to the lack of any news we had during that time.
If I’m honest I don’t really understand how it’s an alternative as we would still be short in centre midfield so would need to buy some one else who would be the alternative to de jong. Maybe I’m been thick and apologies if so.
It’ll take along time to sort out any deals. Look how long their Spotify deal took to land. They need this money now
Honestly - I don't know.
Ajax "system player" struggling a bit outside the system...I mean, it's hardly an outlandish idea.
I do think he's got more meat on his bones than someone like DVB, though.
ETA Plus - there's the ETH factor. If he does end up at United, he'll be working under someone who should know precisely how to play to his strengths.
In fairness, as of right now, it seems like you won’t get him unless you bid an absurd amount. He stated he is happy to be at barcelona so it’s unlikely he is going to force a move.
I can’t see this deal happening the United news for this deal is more hope than anything else.
Se queda.
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Dunno why that tweet is negative news
Got both his first and second names wrong and I’m supposed to believe him. Would have trusted him if he was Luis cnut.
Lluis Canut is tier 3
To be honest this thread is pretty much exactly like all our summer signing threads from the past. They always follow this trend. Give it another two weeks. Stay calm.
Yes, the club is a shambles but if the transfer window goes poorly at least it should encourage further Glazer protests. See it as a win-win. I'm calm.
Yes, the club is a shambles but if the transfer window goes poorly at least it should encourage further Glazer protests. See it as a win-win. I'm calm.
McTom could work box to box to be honest. He can't really be trusted defensively and seems better when getting into the opposition half moving forwards using his physicality. I wonder if he'd actually work well alongside a FDJ in this case. Would need a hell of a lot of coaching positionally though I'd imagine ETH would be the type to apply that.
He probably is happy (enough). But then again, his statements could easily be tactical: he won't come out saying that he'd love to play for Manchester United (under ETH) because that would hurt Barca's negotiation position - and he doesn't want that (he clearly isn't desperate to leave).
Best case scenario (if you want us to sign FDJ) - he's just being professional. He knows a transfer is inevitable: he's actually considered expendable by Barca given their financial situation, and he knows this, but he wants to help them (and himself, I suppose) get the best deal possible.
I’m sure there proposal still needs the prove the incentives will land. They still have players they cannot register due to money.
Maguire I consider out of form because I thought last season he was probably our best CB. This season just past he was woeful. Whereas yes Lindelof had a short decent spell last season but reverted to type. I think after 6 seasons of the same that it’s safe to say he’s not good enough. To be honest, I’m surprised he still has people considering that he’s good enough and defending his performances! My mind boggles at that.
But anyway, my main point was that they all had injuries and were all out at various times so I don’t think we should rely on that 3 to complete the season
What a mess
Its all bluffing to show a strong hand Barca can't be shown to be in financial ruin, just standard brinkmanship used in all businesses.
Just to let everyone know.. The Sancho deal was exactly like this for long spells too.. Very little from the english media at first and dribs and drabs from the German media, right up until the point when it was done to be honest.
We obviously have a process that we follow which includes telling a small group of respected journalists when there is an update which we want them to put out.
Until then, it's all just guess work and people trying to get attention I think
We obviously have a process that we follow which includes telling a small group of respected journalists when there is an update which we want them to put out.
Until then, it's all just guess work and people trying to get attention I think
Gotta love this place during silly season... whenever positive news comes out, people are so quick to denounce it and say its BS, but as soon as something negative is said, it's the truth, lock the thread, it's over. Muppets are broken after the years of crap we've been through it seems.
Seems safe to say nothing new is coming out at the moment so people are just recycling old news and passing it off as new in the hopes that it generates more traffic and clicks for them.
Seems safe to say nothing new is coming out at the moment so people are just recycling old news and passing it off as new in the hopes that it generates more traffic and clicks for them.
https://fbref.com/en/players/1bacc518/Frenkie-de-Jong#scout_summary_MF
He’s a deep lying playmaker. Just because he plays deeper on the pitch doesn’t mean he’s good defensively. Ffs, he’s in the 3rd percentile in pressures, 8th percentile in tackles. For him to be really effective, he needs to be paired with a quality DM.
This new trend of people loading up fbref and thinking they suddenly know everything about a player needs to stop.
We've now entered the real testing time for this transfer. Post euro games, pre pre-season training. If we don't close this by the next week i think the chances will dwindle. Just my thoughts though. I'm not getting "hysterical" or anything
De Jong is better defensively than McTominay. I want a more physical and defensive partner for him if he joins, but if Scott can play with Fred at places like the Etihad and mot get overrun, O have faith in De Jong too. Because Scott is useless.
Why? It's a good reference to back up what he's saying
So, do we jump on the Vitinha train?
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