I still think Ronaldo is going to leave so there’s that.
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I still think Ronaldo is going to leave so there’s that.
I think some people might be subject to recency bias. I know what I wanted before the window started. We're still short of a RB, ST and a CM.
We didn't make enough to buy a bag of chips from sales. Never mind a 8/9/10 out of 10 window. There's a fair bit of deadwood in the squad which hasn't been sold.
When Ralf said we needed 6,7,8,9 or 10 players, there weren't that many that disagreed.
We've signed 5 first team players and I think we need two more to make it an 8/9/10 out of 10 window.
We replaced Shaw, Maguire, Matic, Pogba and Greenwood. With Malacia, Martinez, Casemiro, Eriksen and Antony.
How much of an upgrade that is remains to be seen but I think they are all upgrades besides Greenwood.
There was a lot more that left and haven't been replaced. Especially Cavani/Cavani and Ronaldo depending on how the window goes.
AWB wasn't sold and replaced. Fred, McTominay and VdB aren't all needed now but no1 has been sold either.
My opinion is my opinion. Its a 6 from me so far. If we sign a striker/RB/CM/Sell players then it could rise.
He won’t go with no replacement
How do finances stop Barcelona, Chelsea, Liverpool, City and Bayern all being preferred destinations for Frenkie in the 2023/24 season?
We were his second best option this summer. Out for two options. Next summer, whether Barca still want to sell him or not, we'll be his 4th or 5th option.
It's not just for this website though is it?
Exactly. We’re done unless he leaves I suspect. No Frenkie either way though.
Buy 1 get 2
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If we're back in the CL, why would we suddenly be 4th or 5th? That makes zero sense.
I'm hoping we can do something on the Ronaldo front but I can't see any replacements who are worth it either. 100m+ on a swap loan to buy deal with Napoli just seems like fake news.
These sorts of briefings have generally been correct in recent years.
Football moves so quickly, why is it a given we'll be crying for or interested in De Jong this time next year? It's a lifetime away in football.
So you say there's still hope?
The Glazers look brilliant by there being 1750 pages of nonsense about a player we didnt sign? Wow.
January however…..
Yup. Unless Mendes pulls off a last minute winner the window is done.
Come on. Engage your brain. It’s common sense.
Here is a clue for starters. Liverpool can’t afford his wages and are heavily linked to Bellingham who will cost in the region of £100m. They won’t buy both nor could they afford to.
They just broke the bank for Salah and had to let Mane go as they wouldn’t pay him what he wanted. De Jong is on more than both of them.
Because regardless of whether we finish top four or not this season, at a minimum Barca, Chelsea and Bayern will still be preferable destinations for him.
Which is why we’ll get Depay and De Jong done before Dubravka signs
It`s more to do with people who think its the money that prevented him from coming rather than him simply wanting to stay at Barca
He was probably told "maybe" rather than a firm yes which Utd decide to roll with anyway. Foolish of us to do so and hopefully a lesson that if we approach a player no matter how good the answer should be a firm yes or no
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I’d argue Barcelona are above all the only destination he actively wants to be in full stop.
At this point I don’t think it’s even a discussion.
I like it!Which is why we’ll get Depay and De Jong done before Dubravka signs
Err and city?
Yeah it's all academic. If he can force through staying this summer despite an £80m+ bid on the table, he can just as easily force it through next summer as well.
Just that if he were to leave Barca next summer, more attractive clubs will be in for him than were this summer, is all I'm really saying.
If by January we are on course for top 4 maybe maybe this can be revisited. That’s a big if but Casemiro and Antony will hopefully help.
You might think we don't need him right now but if you think about Kante's injury issues and Jorginho's contract being up in a year, it's not a totally bonkers move.
How often are players of this quality avaialble?
Yeah I understood what you meant, I just wondered how you came to the conclusion that anyone would choose Chelsea over us if we were both in the CL? Bayern too, why would the Bundesliga be more attractive to the Prem and United?
Of course it does. FDJ signing or not is irrelevant now we have a world class DM signed and in the building. At this stage Frenkie would just be a bonus, it’s no great loss to not get him.
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Kante is as good as gone as far as I’m concerned. Maybe not this window but he won’t get renewal terms anywhere near his current contract so a move abroad would make sense.
Chelsea absolutely need 2 new CM players soon.
These posts are serious?
I'm not saying the Glazers intended it to be this way. But it's been a great distraction that has gone on much longer than expected, due to so many people still holding out hope.
Put it this way, imagine we didn't have this saga this summer...the sh*t would have hit the fan months ago over our transfer business. This thread has been at the top of RedCafe for the best part of 3 months and that is reflective of the interest it has had from many fans on social media etc.
and i think Tuchel would actually be open to another midfielder joining. You only have to listen to his latest comments about injuries, and not having enough players in midfield suddenly..... I just don't think FDJ would be open to leaving, that is the issue. Utd are done after Dubravka according to a couple of their club mouthpieces, so perhaps that's a briefing and therefore if FDJ did go, i think it could be us or even the Scousers.
Casemiro needs good players to find..otherwise he’ll be just getting the ball played back whilst he is under pressure…without FDJ he won’t look half as good as he actually is. Could have a poor first season and that’s hard to come back from.
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Bellingham is Liverpool all over. De Jong wouldn’t make any sense for the midfield they have.
I blame the glazers for my rising energy costs also.
You can bet your house we will be there if De Jong decides to move. Doesn't mean he'll end up here, but no way is our 'activity over' if he moves
What are you main priorities this season?
I can only imagine the energy bills generated from posters visiting this thread. It'd have been cheaper (and more lucrative) to mine bitcoin.
Rubbish! This so called ‘embarrassing’ saga is a large part of the reason why Arnie had to head off loons at the pub, why there have been multiple protests in our first few games, and why Our transfer budget seemingly doubled overnight.
It’s only at the top of the caf because the banter has been top class and a lot of folk have derived a modicum of amusement from it. Other than that literally NOTHING has happened for 2 months!
United are expected to be done.. key word being expected
If Ronaldo goes we’ll get a forward
If De Jong decides to move, we’ll be in for him.
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