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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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The chances of Pep allowing Bilva to leave is very low, especially after his last season.
I don’t understand this idea that he doesn’t want to play for us, players rarely get the opportunity to play or continue to play for the clubs they support, does not mean that they just stop caring if they join a different club.
Under the right circumstances, a good player will thrive. It boils down to the atmosphere at the club, the manager, the chances of success and the player.
Under the right circumstances, a good player will thrive. It boils down to the atmosphere at the club, the manager, the chances of success and the player.
City enjoy cucking us for our targets these days, wouldn't surprise me at all if they go for FDJ now.
ETH has a lot of work to do unfortunately.
ETH has a lot of work to do unfortunately.
So they have to sell in order to desperately raise funds - hence why they’ll do a swap deal for a player of similar value and high wages. Makes complete sense.
Ahh well was never fully onboard with this transfer anyway, onto the next target.
My thoughts exactly.
Maybe Barca are just not impressed with FdJ and getting a higher fee for him is much easier if you tell people you need the cash rather than he's not upto your standard.
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Lots of articles I've seen today talking about United pursuing a player who does not want to join.
It still seems we are making historical mistakes, which we have not learned from.
It still seems we are making historical mistakes, which we have not learned from.
I'm not buying it, he's not a replacement for Fernandinho. Pep needs muscles in DM and De Jong is many things but surely not muscles.
They still have Rodri and they might be losing Gundogan, so having another elite ball carrier would be a good signing
True but, Silva played the majority of his games in CM and is linked to the swap. Gundogan is rumoured to be leaving too so there could be space.
This doesnt make any sense. If Barca need the money then what’s the point in basically swapping him for Silva?
Nonsense
Man Barcelona are a confusing club. Finances in disarray, haven't yet registered Kessie and Christensen, struggling to renew Gavi and Dembele's contracts.
Yet all the news points to them going for Lewandowski and Raphinha. Are they being linked with those players just to appease their fans ? as if they can say they at least they tried ?
Yet all the news points to them going for Lewandowski and Raphinha. Are they being linked with those players just to appease their fans ? as if they can say they at least they tried ?
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The rumors of Gundogan leaving were rubbished in the media and Pep himself.
City also want Kalvin Phillips as their Fernandinho replacement not FDJ
He was being sarcastic. It makes no sense to swap FDJ for Bernado because they're of similar value, will command similar wages and they'll receive no money to offset their financial woes it would be counter productive. If it's a choice between £60-70m from Utd plus wages off the books or a swap for Bernado Silva taking Utd's offer makes a lot more sense than a like for like swap.
I know, I agreed it makes no sense.
I offered a different angle on Why Barca MAY want the deal though, not that I believe it, just an alternative view
Indeed
Well put. I was thinking the same thing. Such swap makes no sense, unless they manage to come up with the required funds and want to move FDJ.
If anything, this is a give us more money because your neighbors are very interested.
Not saying it's believable, but that would work actually. The usual accounting trick
The Milan thing makes sense, but PSG really only have Verrati who's good enough to be part of a CL winning midfield. And they keep spending big wages on guys like Winajdum and Herrera and fees on decent midfielders in Gueye and Pereira when they'd be better off with De Jong and just promoting a youngster or two from their strong academy where they seem to keep churning out good French youngsters.
I thought City would just buy De Jong to replace Gundogan and Fernandinho in one fell swoop. Bayern would be the other, and they did spend 70M on Lucas Hernandez, but it seems clear that they're going for Nagelsmann type pressing midfielders.
You both have a point sadly.
Then I just hope they blew it all on Haaland this window, even City has to think about FFP eventually.
We are not offering them the fee that they want so they are trying to drive us into a desperate bid - bottom line is that if City we’re interested then they will already have been speaking to FDJ’s agent - B Silva wants to leave City though so don’t discount this.
Of course City also like teasing us and enjoy us paying over the odds for a player that they are not really interested in! They’ve got form….
Of course City also like teasing us and enjoy us paying over the odds for a player that they are not really interested in! They’ve got form….
Swaps are a rear in football, and in this case it makes no sense from a financial POV
The answer is: they’re dodgy as feck.Man Barcelona are a confusing club. Finances in disarray, haven't yet registered Kessie and Christensen, struggling to renew Gavi and Dembele's contracts.
Yet all the news points to them going for Lewandowski and Raphinha. Are they being linked with those players just to appease their fans ? as if they can say they at least they tried ?
Yeah but this isn’t avoiding FFP, this involves real world debts and money to pay wages etc? I understand if they were trying to wash money but not fudging money they dont have?
Probably revenge since we steal there targets, Fred/Sanchez,Maguire, Ronaldo.
Ye Barca won’t be benefitting here if it’s a straight swap. They need the money.
Oh feck off!
I swear I have been reading the same line the past 4 weeks.
This is real money though. And yes, it's very much about laliga's "FFP"
An now, they don’t need 500m to keep up with La Liga ffp. That’s madness.
When the deal is done I'll be back, getting sick of it.
Both of these will be ignored and people will carry on as though a Bernardo/Frenkie swap deal is basically done and we've missed out because we're shit.
No it isn’t. They aren’t struggling to pay this months wages because of FFP - they have a cash flow issue.
If they need 500m to cover 21/22 debts they are screwed and we wouldn't even be talking about this, we'd be talking about their bankruptcy. Fat chance they need 500m so soon
And either way, a €30M difference isn't moving the needle there
No, they have a debt issue. And selling Frenkie isn't really doing much with cash flow unless they get the whole fee immediately, which won't happen
The task is getting harder and harder for Ten Hag. He may have to look at other players who really want to come here.
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