Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap

Frenkie to United?


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Tonight perfectly illustrated why he doesn't really have a place in Xavi's system. However good he can be, I don't think he's good enough to have the entire system changed to get the best out of him. It's sad that old man Busquets is still the better DM for Barca despite his shortcomings.
 
It’s pretty clear Barcelona don’t need or want Frenkie. They’re desperate, as we all know, to get rid of him.

But does Frenkie actually want to pull a Bale?

Pulling a Bale at his age would be stupid. He'll be hated by the fans due to his wages, and he won't play regularly in a world cup year. Feels like it's gonna be a nightmare of a season for him if he stays.
 
It's OK Frenkie, we still love you. Imagine what you could do with Casemiro protecting you and just letting you do your thing.
 
Barca have overplayed their hand with this, so maybe worth chancing our arm at £40 million next week, if not then just leave it.
 
Tuchel again saying he doesn’t need a midfielder.

Barca really didn’t play this well.
 
There’s no way we’d bid lower after a higher fee had already been agreed

Why? That bid has expired apparently, and if Barca do sell now it's because they never wanted him to stay, and so will be getting more desperate to cash in, whereas we are now not as desperate as we were for him, and have been messed around, so the price drops.
 
C'mon Frenkie, come and partner big Cas.

Still see us making a final push for him in this last week of the window. Hoping Barca will be just desperate to shift him and accept £40-50m (+ we cover most of the deferred wages). Just imagine...

Sancho Ronaldo Antony

Eriksen/Bruno

De Jong Casemiro

Oh sweet baby :drool:
 
Barca have overplayed their hand with this, so maybe worth chancing our arm at £40 million next week, if not then just leave it.
I think as desperate as Barca are, they would rather save the embarrassment of being mocked by everyone for having to accept half the fee they agreed. Just to save face, they’d probably just carry on paying FDJ a ridiculous wage.
 
Tonight perfectly illustrated why he doesn't really have a place in Xavi's system. However good he can be, I don't think he's good enough to have the entire system changed to get the best out of him. It's sad that old man Busquets is still the better DM for Barca despite his shortcomings.

So why doesn't he see sense and go somewhere that can give him the ideal system then
 
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Tonight perfectly illustrated why he doesn't really have a place in Xavi's system. However good he can be, I don't think he's good enough to have the entire system changed to get the best out of him. It's sad that old man Busquets is still the better DM for Barca despite his shortcomings.

Well, at least you guys will only be paying him €88.6M over the next 4 years.
 
C'mon Frenkie, come and partner big Cas.

Still see us making a final push for him in this last week of the window. Hoping Barca will be just desperate to shift him and accept £40-50m (+ we cover most of the deferred wages). Just imagine...

Sancho Ronaldo Antony

Eriksen/Bruno

De Jong Casemiro

Oh sweet baby :drool:

Will only believe if the English journos get on this story again which I doubt happens
 
I think as desperate as Barca are, they would rather save the embarrassment of being mocked by everyone for having to accept half the fee they agreed. Just to save face, they’d probably just carry on paying FDJ a ridiculous wage.

So you see them caving and keeping salary at current level just to save face then
 
So you see them caving and keeping salary at current level just to save face then
Right now it’s looking like they don’t have any option. I’m sure if we go in with a price of £40m, there will be a queue of clubs ready to take him at that price. One of the main reasons many clubs aren’t in for him is because A) he doesn’t want to leave B) not many can pay 80m+ for him
 
How well do we think he and Casemiro will work together if we do get him?
 
I just hope it's Frankie's camp that's feeding him info.

He’s connected with both EtH and FDJ from memory.

He was clear that United have an agreement with the agent and was the first to break that the offer to Barca had expired/been withdrawn.

He’s also been consistent that he would come to United if a deal can be done.
 
He’s connected with both EtH and FDJ from memory.

He was clear that United have an agreement with the agent and was the first to break that the offer to Barca had expired/been withdrawn.

He’s also been consistent that he would come to United if a deal can be done.

Yeah he did break that expired offer story, however still think if there was any chance of us going back in we would hear from more sources
 
Do people still belive this is happening?
 
Do people still belive this is happening?

Like I just said not unless other journos report, still not getting any sense whatsoever he will change his public stance. Then again he could be saying he wants to stay in order to just get his money.
 
Pulling a Bale at his age would be stupid. He'll be hated by the fans due to his wages, and he won't play regularly in a world cup year. Feels like it's gonna be a nightmare of a season for him if he stays.

Agreed. It would be madness to remain at a club where you’re despised by the fans and frozen out by the manager, just collect huge wages. Or to take a massive haircut in wages and still be frozen out by the manager. Especially at his age.
 
Tonight perfectly illustrated why he doesn't really have a place in Xavi's system. However good he can be, I don't think he's good enough to have the entire system changed to get the best out of him. It's sad that old man Busquets is still the better DM for Barca despite his shortcomings.

Barcelona HAS to adapt because Xavi's system is dead with Busquets retiring. There's not alternative to Busquets (Rodri maybe but he's not leaving Pep and is slightly different) so it's a necessity to change unless he's planning on playing with busquets until he's 42 (and getting eviscerated in the CL because he can't defend anymore).
 
Barcelona HAS to adapt because Xavi's system is dead with Busquets retiring. There's not alternative to Busquets (Rodri maybe but he's not leaving Pep and is slightly different) so it's a necessity to change unless he's planning on playing with busquets until he's 42 (and getting eviscerated in the CL because he can't defend anymore).

So De Jong will get the system he wants then
 
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