Didn’t he come out about a week back saying how much he wants to retire at Barca?
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That was before Ten Hagrid got on the blower
As long as he'd be earning less than Pogba it would be a net improvement. At 24 he'd be a mainstay in our midfield for years too.
He's not going to go anywhere. He's picked up his form again under Xavi and is clearly valued.
Will never happen, but he and Rice would be an absolute dream and I’d gladly spend the £200m it would take.
Gavi and Pedri will push him out. He’s the most sellable asset they have.
Thought he was on more than that. Will check it out tomorrow but i recall him being on close to or circa €400k per week (gross) which translates closer to at least €18m gross pa. But yeah, not really sure where I read that or which reports are reliable. Was always under the assumption that Barca offered him an eye watering salary when he joined.
People raved so much about many of the Ajax side that did so well a few years back. We have seen a fair few lookign average at other clubs like ZIyech amd VDB for example.
For me DeLigt and DejOng stood out way aboved the rest. I think DeJOng is quality, think he fits Barcelona perfectly too and unless he gets pushed out by some of the youngsters, I think he would be mad to move personally.
Dont see it happening at all, but wouldbe all over him if truth, as someone else mentioned, him and Rice would be a grat midfield partnership potentially....but again...potential prices, sadly rules out moves for either or Bellingham being prudent this summer when we realistically need up to 7 signings, even though that is unlikely ot happend either, we really NEED to make a bare minimum of 4
For me DeLigt and DejOng stood out way aboved the rest. I think DeJOng is quality, think he fits Barcelona perfectly too and unless he gets pushed out by some of the youngsters, I think he would be mad to move personally.
Dont see it happening at all, but wouldbe all over him if truth, as someone else mentioned, him and Rice would be a grat midfield partnership potentially....but again...potential prices, sadly rules out moves for either or Bellingham being prudent this summer when we realistically need up to 7 signings, even though that is unlikely ot happend either, we really NEED to make a bare minimum of 4
Not crazy different from what the likes of Varane, Sancho, de Gea are reported to be on then.
But it seems that it is including bonuses.
Indeed, we’re known to hand out silly contracts too soon but agreed, we could generally “afford” him and I wouldn’t mind him but we’d need to blow a large portion of our transfer budget in that case. He’s quality though.
Lumping Ziyech in with VDB and saying he looks average. My lord
Really!?Lumping Ziyech in with VDB and saying he looks average. My lord
Been disappointing for Chelsea. I think that is his point. Been struggeling for playing time for a Chelsea side where they really lack a really good RW.
Been brilliant every time I tuned into Chelsea last 3 months (which isn't that often). Must be pure coincidence then.
Isn't he starting more often than not right now?
I've seen this line about the old Ajax players trotted around often, but De Ligt, Ziyech, De Jong are starters for their respective teams. I don't know why people expect standout Ajax players to also be standout at top clubs rather than just good. The only real flop is VDB who is way closer to Dest in ability than the aforementioned players.
He'd be silly to leave Barca right now.
He was and is the best of that Ajax team. Exactly the player we need in midfield
Spent more time on the bench this season than starting. Has not really changed. He is in and out.
I think people expect standout players for Ajax to be quite good for good teams in the PL because Ajax had probably been a top 10/15 team in the world the past few years.
Ziyech was incredible in the CL for Ajax. Watching him be a squad player at Chelsea is below my expectation.
It’s become clear that VdB is the perfect system player than anything else. He has a bit of everything that helps systems tick over. IF we get ETH I’d expect to see VdB back at United
Lumping Ziyech in with VDB and saying he looks average. My lord
I said he looked a class above them, maybe read the post properly before responding
One of the few CMs around who looks at home when being pressed. But I always end up wondering who we could sign to play alongside him so that we can continue to play Bruno as a #10. Not many combinations of 6 and 8 are out there who are used to playing behind a 10 like Bruno., most of them are coming from systems that play with two 8s and a 6.
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All I did was run around (around)
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You have to be joking....i wouldn't give 2 tesco sandwiches for Rice to come to United alongside Frenkie. Frenkie won't leave Barca as he has no reason to do so based on how they have turned things around with Xavi. Only way he leaves is if they need money to balance the books as he's their biggest asset to sell.
Now Frenkie and Tchouameni would be a bit more ideal
Erm I am fine and have no idea what you are on about but thanks for the comment
Rule of thumb with Marca is all Real signings the reported figures are upfront, net, no variables, no agents, both for wages and fees. If it's Barca or anyone Real are missing out on, the opposite applies.
The Barca press likewise, and so on.
Then the British press pick the numbers up (unbeknown to them if gross or net) in Euros and report them as pounds, not that it makes that much difference these days.
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Yeah, you’re not making it any easier anto
What a baller this guy is...
"Baller"
Oh. My. Word
Let's see him put in these performances in games that actually matter. The Germans outplayed Holland till they couldn't be mithered and brought on inferior players.
The only world class player we (the Dutch) have.
Virgil van Dijk. de Jong is overrated.
He single handedly turned the game by taking the ball on the turn and dribbling out of the German press numerous times.
Both were incredible.
Give me him, de Ligt and Erik Ten Hag, target Juve and Barcelona and their financial problems.
There's countless games for Ajax, Barcelona and Holland where he's dominated in top games. As @VanDeBank said above, his ability to resist pressing opposition and break through an oppositions press changes games. I mean, he singlehandedly convinced the footballing world that Donny was a competent player by carrying him in so many big European games.
Countless? Baring the season where Ajax reached the semi final of the Champions League, he's underperformed for both Holland and Barcelona. Yes, he's had some good games for Barcelona and he played well in the nations league (glorified friendlies) when Holland reached the final.
He was dreadful in the euros last season and he's doing better under Xavi than he did under Koeman but for the love of Christ.. Let's take it easy.
We're incredibly biased in this country and we have a tendency to get carried away far too quickly, something we tend to accuse the English of I'll have you belief.
Dreadful in the Euros? Thought he was in contention for best team of the group stage.
What? Him and Dumfries were the best players in most Euro games, with the exception of the Czech game, when everyone was shit.
There were countless posts fawning on his ability during those group games.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/frenkie-de-jong-performances.444823/page-6
Should be trying to force the issue at Barca tbh.
They’ll want to reinvest in areas of their squad, and with Pedri/Gavi you can argue they’d be able to sell De Jong and use the £££ elsewhere.
De Jong or Bellingham have to be the Pogba replacement.
They’ll want to reinvest in areas of their squad, and with Pedri/Gavi you can argue they’d be able to sell De Jong and use the £££ elsewhere.
De Jong or Bellingham have to be the Pogba replacement.
De Jong - McTominay
???? - Bruno - Sancho
Ronaldo
???? - Bruno - Sancho
Ronaldo
Okay, let's take out the Ajax games.
Since Joining Barca, yes, he's had a fair few poor showings in big games, but he's joined a bit of a mess (until recently) so, imo, that was bound to happen. However, he's had his fair share of good performances in big games, too. I think they tend to get overlooked because of the situation Barcelona have found themselves in recent years coupled with some big smashings that De Jong was apart of.
As for Holland, whenever I've watched them he's always looked like the best player on the pitch to me. I take it you're Dutch? Sure, the Euros was a disappointment, but I thought De Jong could come out of that tournament with his head held high as, to me, it seemed like he was the one who gave you a fighting chance in each game.
THis was his performance yesterday:
When I watch that, it shows me the exact type of midfielder I personally think my club and country is missing.
Somehow I totally forgot about Van Dijk. We have two.
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