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Frenkie to United?


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I know its annoying for some people but this still makes me laugh :lol:

Reminds me of that 9/11 reference in Family Guy when Louis was running for president or something
 
I think this signing will happen. Barca have to sell and ETH clearly loves De Jong.

It would be a great signing IMO. I don't understand the Di Maria comparison at all. As easily as you can say he doesn't want to leave, you could also say that gives him a point to prove.

It's been a loooooong time since we had a genuine classy CM that can do it on a consistent basis and stay fit. Was the last one Matic in his first season with us? Even that only lasted about 6 months. Probably going back to Scholes for the last one and that's over 10 years ago!! Absolute madness.
 
I think this signing will happen. Barca have to sell and ETH clearly loves De Jong.

It would be a great signing IMO. I don't understand the Di Maria comparison at all. As easily as you can say he doesn't want to leave, you could also say that gives him a point to prove.

It's been a loooooong time since we had a genuine classy CM that can do it on a consistent basis and stay fit. Was the last one Matic in his first season with us? Even that only lasted about 6 months. Probably going back to Scholes for the last one and that's over 10 years ago!! Absolute madness.
If we sign him he'll be crap.
 
I can't understand why people are so perplexed by this transfer.

Frenkie de Jong is happy playing for the club he supported as a boy. Although he doesn't think he's being used correctly positionally, he loves the club and wants to stay. He knows there are financial issues at the club but until hes told he's for sale his focus and desire is on staying at Barcelona.

If you asked Beckham the same questions during his united career you would have gotten similar answers.

However, circumstances change. Whilst Barcelona might want to explore other options so that they can keep FDJ the reality of their situation is that they will probably end up having to sell him. At that point he will accept his fate.

At no point has he said he doesn't want to come here or that he prefers to go to another club. If he arrives he will be working with a manager who knows him and his game.

Plenty of players have been sad to leave their clubs but gone on to play well elsewhere. People keep comparing this to Di Maria (who actually started well at United). What went wrong was his poor relationship with the coach, his inability to adjust to the northern European culture and weather and then his house getting robbed. FDJ is unlikely to experience any of these issues as he's from Northern Europe, will have compatriots in the squad and is loved by the coach.

Very few players will leave a starting role at a champions league contender to play in a team that barely qualified for the europa league. If he didn't have reservations about joining us you would have to question his ambition.

However given Barcelonas situation and the fact his former coach is here with the intention to make us into regular champions league qualifiers I believe FDJ will happily come here once he's officially told by Barcelona that they don't want to keep him for financial reasons.

Very sensible post


Followed directly by this :lol:
 
I know its annoying for some people but this still makes me laugh :lol:

Reminds me of that 9/11 reference in Family Guy when Louis was running for president or something

Good shout :lol:

 
Very sensible post



Followed directly by this :lol:

I made my thoughts clear on how ridiculous it is to constantly bring up Di Maria all the time when talking about a transfer. At this point if it's become a meme then I will participate as well. I am giving the people what they want. A lot of people just want to see the words "Di Maria" in this thread :D
 
Think we should move on if he is not interested. We need the RIGHT players who want to play for the badge.

fecking hell. United fans need to break free from these shackles. Was this a collective hypnotism spell that happened in OT at some point or something?
 
Not necessarily, we might be able to pay in installments. This would help stretch the transfer budget.
Most transfers are paid in installments United would have factored in that any way it won't be impacting United transfer kitty positively but If Barca insist on Substantial fee upfront it can certainly impact United's transfer activities adversely .
 
For some reason I'm really not keen. I think I'd rather hear that United had dropped their interest and moved on to the next midfield target, than that they'd made an official bid.
 
hes at a very big club in barcelona, hes not gonna risk the wrath of the fans and say he wants out is he? especially considering our record when it comes to drawn out transfer sagas when making bids. im sure if and when things are agreed between clubs his tune will change. id also like to believe that we wouldnt be contemplating a bid unless things have been agreed with the player in the background. but then again with our record you never know.
 
He doesn’t want to join us and the price would put a massive hole, in our already limited budget.

Move the hell on already, to a player who would actually want to join us.
 
Most transfers are paid in installments United would have factored in that any way it won't be impacting United transfer kitty positively but If Barca insist on Substantial fee upfront it can certainly impact United's transfer activities adversely .

Well at United we do things "differently" the Maguire fee was paid in full upfront.. *shudders*
 
Can you please elaborate on the bolded part .

People look at a transfer budget - lets say that it is £120m this summer - and think that we spend 85m on De Jong & 35m on Timber and that's us done, but there's more to it than that. For example last summer we signed Sancho and Varane with transfer fees to be paid over (I think) 5 years & 4 years respectively. On paper we spent around 110m on those two players but last summer our outlay could have been as low as 25m. Barcelona would probably want a front-loaded structure on a De Jong deal because of their circumstances, but its highly unlikely that we will pay them in full.

Obviously it still affects our budget planning but the impact on wage bill is probably more important
 
It means you could pay 85 mill over 5 years meaning you might only spend 17 mill on him this year.
Most transfers work like this anyway barring few exceptions that amount 85 m still need to be paid this won't suddenly allow United to Splurge more than they intend to anyway .

Because by applying this logic big Clubs can easily Commit over 500 m in Summer but you hardly see that. If United budget is 120m or more without sales then that's the amount United would commit on tranfer fees irrespective of Payment terms .
 
This has Di Maria written all over it.

It doesn't.

FDJ would be going to a manager and system that he has a good history with. Di Maria went to a manager and system that was the antithesis of his style of play.
 
The barca board is going to have a meeting on 16th June to vote on selling assets ( 49% BLM (Barça Licensing & Merchandising), part of TV rights, 49% barca studios). The plan is more or less to get roughly 800m for all of them. Anyways before that day, no transfers in any direction will happen, I'm pretty sure. The board wants to know their financial status for the new season and all transfer activities will depend on the outcome of the voting.
 
If the price is £85 million id walk away personally. Too many red flags to pay that sort of money for a player - doesn’t want to leave his current club , has not played his best football in over 2.5 years , has not played in the premier before and therefore element of risk in terms of how he adapts.

At that price , even with ETH, it’s a no for me.
 
If the price is £85 million id walk away personally. Too many red flags to pay that sort of money for a player - doesn’t want to leave his current club , has not played his best football in over 2.5 years , has not played in the premier before and therefore element of risk in terms of how he adapts.

At that price , even with ETH, it’s a no for me.
From the above tweet its 80m EUR? So more £68m
 
This saga is a great example of why I despise this transfer tweet culture we have nowadays. Without the rumour mill and people so willing to feed on whatever they read, we'd simply have an announcement at some point that United had signed De Jong, and without exception our fanbase would be ecstatic that we'd managed to sign such a quality midfielder.

Instead, no matter what happens from here and whatever the player says (should he sign), there will be a faction of our fanbase subconsciously waiting or even wanting him to fail so they can all say 'See! I told you he didn't want to come". It's tainted before it's even bloody happened.
 
I really want De Jong, but thats a lot of money on 1 player this window when we still need another 3 players at absolute minimum.

I think we've just gotta go with what Ten Hag wants, as he's the one who'll be taking responsbility for failure.
 
This saga is a great example of why I despise this transfer tweet culture we have nowadays. Without the rumour mill and people so willing to feed on whatever they read, we'd simply have an announcement at some point that United had signed De Jong, and without exception our fanbase would be ecstatic that we'd managed to sign such a quality midfielder.

Instead, no matter what happens from here and whatever the player says (should he sign), there will be a faction of our fanbase subconsciously waiting or even wanting him to fail so they can all say 'See! I told you he didn't want to come". It's tainted before it's even bloody happened.

I agree. Can't stand it.

But I'm also checking regularly, because i'm a hypocrite.
 
stop comparing this situation to Di Maria, grow up, totally different scenarios and players
 
We all know how this is going to turn out if we sign him. A player who does not want to leave being sold against his will. As so many are saying, it's happened before. In fact, it's happened twice before when a dutch player is forced out of a Spanish club. I'm getting Robben/Sneijder vibes.
 
From the above tweet its 80m EUR? So more £68m

Ah my bad! A bit more logic to it for that kind of price but I’m still skeptical, his wages will likely be over £275k too - it’s an expensive deal for someone I’m not convinced on personally.
 
It's good to see the fee being reduced by each new update. Hopefully we'll knock another €20m, by next week.

You have to start with a higher bargaining position. If this happens, it will probably be for the reported 70mil

We all know how this is going to turn out if we sign him. A player who does not want to leave being sold against his will. As so many are saying, it's happened before. In fact, it's happened twice before when a dutch player is forced out of a Spanish club. I'm getting Robben/Sneijder vibes.

Yeah, he is hardly going to retire because Barcelona are forcing him out of the club. Some people make it sound like he will be so heartbroken he might never mentally recover...
 
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The ironic Di Maria references aren't funny anymore
Everyone is missing the more obvious Fabragas reference

A new Man Utd manager realizes his CM's are below par, so he is trying to sign a CM from Barcelona who signed for big money a couple of years ago, the player doesn't really want to leave Barcelona even though he isn't playing as much or performing as well as he could be.

It's the same thing. Except then we were Champions.
 
This saga is a great example of why I despise this transfer tweet culture we have nowadays. Without the rumour mill and people so willing to feed on whatever they read, we'd simply have an announcement at some point that United had signed De Jong, and without exception our fanbase would be ecstatic that we'd managed to sign such a quality midfielder.

Instead, no matter what happens from here and whatever the player says (should he sign), there will be a faction of our fanbase subconsciously waiting or even wanting him to fail so they can all say 'See! I told you he didn't want to come". It's tainted before it's even bloody happened.

I think there are points of discussion regarding FDJ - let’s not pretend this is the same player from his time at Ajax where of course everyone would be buzzing to sign. He has been quite below par for some time now although would say that ETH more than anyone could help turn that around.
 
I think there are points of discussion regarding FDJ - let’s not pretend this is the same player from his time at Ajax where of course everyone would be buzzing to sign. He has been quite below par for some time now although would say that ETH more than anyone could help turn that around.

It would be discussed of course because everyone has an opinion on everything nowadays, but overall it would be an extremely positive reaction
 
It doesn't.

FDJ would be going to a manager and system that he has a good history with. Di Maria went to a manager and system that was the antithesis of his style of play.
Was going to reply similar... He even said it himself that Van Gaal was the worst coach he had.

Had no idea how to play him - midfielder, winger and striker sometimes in a 3-5-2... Then dropped for Ashley Young.

That's not happening with De Jong/Ten Hag.
 
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