Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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I still think Ronaldo will feck off late in the window and we will simultaneously announce De Jong and some other fecker.
Is the 17m owed Nett or Gross?
Correct me if I'm wrong but couldn't any buying club essentially tell him to write off his £17m and they'd pay it to him as a sign on bonus or pay it over the lifetime of his contract? Nothing wrong with that surely?
Who?
Barca are in complete meltdown right now, however much of a brave face they put on in public. Three days before their first game and they have sold off big chunks of their future revenue but still can't register players, they are trying to negotiate salaries down and mutually terminate contracts left, right and centre with an almost non-existent bargaining position, they are publicly airing their dirty laundry and dragging their players into open battle in the press, and all the while they have La Liga and the global footballing world on their case.
You can hate the Glazers all you want but that goes far beyond any problems we might have this season if we don't sign FDJ. How anyone can look at what Barca are doing and use it as any kind of stick to beat United with seems so strange to me. At least they are showing ambition? They have a great squad on paper?
Are people really that shortsighted?
I assume it is possible but I have to respect our stance that we are not going to pay 17M in back wages for games he played for Barcelona. It is their debt so they can pay it and their cries of poverty ring hollow when they are spunking hundreds of millions in transfer fees and wages to their shiny new toys.
Only a matter of time now that his name is finally correct!
Nothing wrong with that from the new club, but surely forcing someone to forgo their wages because you can't be arsed to pay is the issue. I still don't see how if he was forced to do that, he couldn't litigate and get that money back anyway.
They will run the public shaming campaign against him again.
Its well reported we wont bid until fdJ gives an indication he is willing to move, so the argument that we cant be that interested because we havent bid... is a bit daft.
Yeah most sources are against us so let's just say it's looking bleak we can turn it around
That would just be more evidence he was under duress from them to forgo his owed wages, it just seems like such a dumb approach and they're counting on the fact he doesn't try and take legal action in the future.
So your just chilling to wait for him to call you and tell you he’s interested? I’m confused.
Just clinging to anything. We lost to y’all and we have to move on.
Boehly is 'interested' in any name big enough to trend on Twitter.
Can we feck all the Chelsea fans off the forum if he goes there.
They are by no means favourites to make top 4 this season themselves right now, so this "we've got CL football" therefore we're incredibly attractive thing might only be true for this season.
I'd laugh for a year if they got de Jong, missed top 4 and united got in via the Europa league.
They are by no means favourites to make top 4 this season themselves right now, so this "we've got CL football" therefore we're incredibly attractive thing might only be true for this season.
I'd laugh for a year if they got de Jong, missed top 4 and united got in via the Europa league.
We’re well on pace to get to 2000 pages. About 22 pages per day of absolute nonsense to deadline day. We can do this.
They are doing it though their unofficial mouthpiece propaganda machines. That’s why their own officials mostly speaks benign things only when they want to speak.
I agree. He is loving life
Well probably waiting for his reps or agent to give the nod that he is prepared to leave, then we will bid. Is what the reports state.
But i dont think that nod is coming, at all
Suppose we will all see when it’s time to register them players.
Have been for a while
I think that might be what Barca are trying to pressure us into doing, and really, pushing another club into doing that is the only option they have apart from paying it themselves. Is there anything anywhere about that £17m being net or gross because if it's the former, that is an insane bill to willingly take off Barca's hands as we'd end up paying the tax on top. You could fund a smaller PL club's whole transfer window on that payment alone.
There's also a whole legal minefield here for Barca in potentially setting contractual precedent with whatever they do with FDJ. If they openly acknowledge he should get that money, either by paying it themselves or formally signing something that says they mutually agree with the player to waive future payments (because United or whoever else is picking up the bill), what happens when Depay, or Ter Stegen, or Umtiti or whoever else in future needs to be sold or wants out and the buying club doesn't want to pick up Barca's IOUs? They have tied themselves in knots with this stuff and could be in a really bad place.
Well we agreed a price and Barca accepted yet you have not done so. Not saying you won't but there is really no reason for you not to have done so if you want him considering all the media stories saying he wants to join you, I mean what more are you waiting for? It still seems unlikely you truly are that interested when if you sign Fofana you will have blown way past the 250M mark in spending and a striker is surely more of a priority if you do keep spending, not to mention the fact that everyone is connecting you to Rice next summer and Frenkie plays in the same position.
Like the past month or two from when it was reported he didn't want to leave Barca.
Dude you were out only just yesterday and then jumped back in
Yesterday the title of the thread was DeJong. Times, they are changing. We have evolved.Dude you were out only just yesterday and then jumped back in
Wonder if we have pursued possibly taking Frenkie on loan instead as a last resort and paying all his inflated wages this year.
- He gets to remain a Barcelona player (if it’s true he doesn’t want to move permanently)
- Gets his improved salary paid this year
- We get a player we desperately need in a position that we urgently need strengthening
- Barca get to register their new toys
- Barca get some breathing room to try to come to an agreement with Frenkie on his contract terms
Do you think that we were both told the same thing then, but that Chelsea are waiting for something more concrete than United will have received from FDJ's camp?
And do you think that as a consequence, United are now sitting and waiting with a fee agreed despite not having the indications or assurances that Chelsea believe they need to proceed to that stage?
DeJong in the title still, I see
Yeah this would be a bigger kick in the guts than Hazard because of the connection between player and manager albeit not as strong as we initially thought
Sign Rice already ffs. Reinstate our power house mentality and go put 100M on the table
Would be nice to get someone that can help our defense out but I doubt it'll happen I genuinely don't believe it will happen for another 5 windows
Our boy Romero back at it this evening …..
I think the sticking point for being a Barcelona player is that he actually plays for Barcelona. Otherwise, what is the point? Loan deals only work for players who want out but the parent club can't sell him, or a player is not getting ample playing time due to age or quality.
Barca have opened the door for anyone to sign him. Reportedly, he wants his money first, does want to leave, or both. The money would most likely change his mind about not wanting to leave.
Since Moyes.
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