Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Also, Roy Keane shook hands with Blackburn over a deal before coming to us.
Shearer had an agreement with Fergie too didn't he?
Back on the muppet train guys. Choochoo!
Yeah, no...
@Vault Dweller speeding the train back up?
Stop swallowing that Glazer rubbish............even through you fed up the known facts so far.
If FdJ goes to Chelsea, he obviously puts playing CL this season above all else. It'll be disappointing but it's not like we haven't lost players to Chelsea before. I'm not sure how much blame I can put on United if that were to happen as we've done our part, agreed a fee with Barca weeks ago, can't do anything about the wage issue. I hope the rumors of a backup target is true, because we need bodies in midfield for the upcoming season.
But it's not done until it's done, so here's hoping he still chooses United.
But it's not done until it's done, so here's hoping he still chooses United.
There is a very thin line between a muppet and a zealous believer. Who am I kidding? There is no line.The people still believing this is happening are like creationists who believe dinosaur fossils were put here to test their faith. Fair play to you all
No it isn’t, what a load of codswallop!Yeah, he started shoveling the coal...
If he was intending to move to a PL club, then it’s highly likely it would be one based in London.
Why?
Might be that despite us having his old coach here, he simply sees Chelsea to be a safer bet. They're in a better situation compared to us, already an established team with a winning (not taking anything away from ETH) coach that's competing on all levels, whilst on the other side were just getting started from the scratch (again...) and there's no telling how things will turn out.
They've sat there with there dick in their hand since FDJ went to the US and done literally nothing. They should have actually put some pressure or Barca to finish the deal.
Chelsea are now heavy favourites with the bookies to sign De Jong. We were favourites at evens with Chelsea 3/1, but overnight those odds have swapped.
What the feck happened?
What the feck happened?
Exactly. Just ask Lisandro Martinez
What’s the point? It’s not done yet. Our window isn’t over and deJong hasn’t signed anywhere. We can play rating games on the 1st September.
Yeah but he's a former player of ETH text
That might be the reason why he does the tactic stuff and not the buying and negotiating with players stuff...
He wants Frenkie and thinks he need Frenkie to play the tactics he wants. He cant play the tactics he wants with expensive and overrated Rice or Neves so he doesnt want those players. He wants Frenkie or someone like Frenkie. There arent any players like Frenkie on the market who are willing to go to Manchester United. That is why he wants Frenkie.
Finally got a manager with an idea and planned tactic. That tactic requires certains player but now people just want to dump any random midfielder on the manager because ''spending money and buying players is fun''. Im happy Manchester United seems smarter instead of buying players that just dont suit the manager. Like Di Maria didnt suit van Gaal and i dont think Ole asked for Ronaldo for example.
Or he might just be listening the wants of his Mrs? None of us have any idea the scope of influence she potentially has on this transfer. She’s desperate to stay in Barcelona, but maybe has compromised on London.
Might not be better than Manchester to people that have experienced both cities, but to a foreigner looking in it might be the more attractive option.
Maybe the football career aspect of this is actually lowest of the priorities for them.
Won't be long now I am afraid, well at least this isn't going to go on for another month now
Greater odds of bumping into Nadine Dorris obviously
Shit. Yeah. Fair point.
I'd have thought at least Law would have been on it by now.
There is always the possibility that we are gambling on an unknown outcome, but I think you're probably right and we would have backed away by this point unless we were quite confident of an outcome that suited us.
Of course the other possibility is that we backed away ages ago and we've all just developed a narrative based on a load of 'journalists' talking bollocks all summer
Chelsea are now heavy favourites with the bookies to sign De Jong. We were favourites at evens with Chelsea 3/1, but overnight those odds have swapped.
What the feck happened?
Ornstein put his tweet out and people have lumped on Chelsea
Clubs with lesser budgets are able to completely revamp their starting XI within a season. With the amount of money we've spent on "surplus players" (VDB, Varane, Ronaldo, AWB, Pellistri, Amad) over the past two years we could've had an entirely new midfield of 3-4 new players capable of challenging City's quality midfield. The only reason it's not happening "overnight" is because the club doesn't have the ambition, necessary infrastructure, competence, and planning to oversee such a rebuild.
Not much you can do when a player is not, let's say thrilled to join us, and he's owed money by his current team.
Only other thing is to wastly overpay everyone...Barca for the fee, players wages in order to soften him up about the idea of playing for us, deferred wages...
I think we all know at this point it comes down to the deferred wages. We have to remember Barca approached us about this deal, not the other way around, they need the money, they need him off the books, we should have threatened to walk away, or something and forced them to solve the wage issue with Frenkie.
Yeah that's exactly what's happened, don't think we will go for alternative when you look at Erik's words and that's a scary thought
I was under the assumption that EtH would've had talks with FdJ, so United were prepared to play the waiting game. But that of course might be untrue. Even if Chelsea get him I don't think they'll get past the wage issue without it going down to the La Liga registration date. Only Barca and De Jong can solve the wage issue, I don't think any external party can influence them.
True, we can't assume De Jong or his family's motivation. But from a footballing perspective, I believe the CL is the only thing Chelsea have over us in this season.
We have no firm proof that this is the case though, it's just all journalist reports that state that. Mainly Sport.
There has been absolutely nothing from de Jong that says he's not really interested in joining United, all thats been said is he'd rather stay at Barca. There has been so many conflicting reports on this saga, and pretty much all of them have originated in Spain.
It was chelsea he wanted to go to and was meant to go to. However in his conference apparently he didn’t know there were 2 clubs in Manchester.
Absolutely no fecking clue who this guy is, but right now he is tier 1 and I believe every word that comes out of his glorious mouth.
In Montero we trust
Has been right on the money for all the 10 minutes I followed him
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