Catalan radio in spouting Barca propaganda shocker! It’s not a case of ignoring but of taking it with many punches of salt and not getting suckered in by the politics.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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There is a report that he’s willing.
My only concern with him is seemingly having no backup plan in such a key position
They aren't clickbait paradise like us
Nope.
There are reports saying he’s considering an offer.
I’d be very surprised if he’s not considering absolutely every single scenario right now.
I thought it said considering not willing
He’s going to take a huge salary cut. Around where all their players are - it’s a massive wage cut - which ever way you look at it - propaganda or not.
Considering Paxi, it’s a very different word mate.
1) Absolutely
2) Yep very true
3) I'd be very very surprised if we didn't have any assurances. It would make no sense at all if we didn't, and EtH doesn't seem like the type who would just blindly chase a player - look at Timber and Brobbey, both said they didn't want to come, both times we just upped and walked away moving on to someone else.
4) Yep he's stated he's very happy and would prefer to stay. No denying that at all. But in the last month or so, he's not said anything at all, so we don't know what his current stance is. We're just going by media reports and their "sources". If it's true and he doesn't want to come, then something has obviously changed, and we'd know about it because we'd likely brief and walk away.
For what it's worth the traduction of meditant isn't really considering but thinking as in reflecting.
No he isn’t!
Lewas on 9m net so….
That's one part (albeit small, in my opinion). The other part is that they treat their journalists incredibly well, so those same journalists don't write up pieces against their team in the same way someone like Luckhurst, Wheeler, Odgen, Anka, or Daniel Taylor would against us.
I’ve been on here long enough to have seen my fair share of Summers where Ronaldo and Ramos have used us to get pay rises out of a Spanish club.
I’ve never seen a player use us for a pay cut though.
Maybe there’s something to the link between heading a football and CTE.
I’ve never seen a player use us for a pay cut though.
Maybe there’s something to the link between heading a football and CTE.
But why? Only because you guys are making it so. Most people will see it as he tried for a player he really wanted and it didn’t work out. If it turns nasty it’ll be because a bunch of moany fans turned it that way
What an absolute dumb prick De Jong has shown himself to be over this saga. If he comes, he'll have earned himself very little leeway with United fans if he doesn't immediately come in and perform.
What is going on? I mean this link to United is long dead, but why is Barca pushing de Jong to lower his wages and why is he even considering it?
He could stay on current terms no?
Are they blackmailing him with that CB position? That really is bizarre.
He could stay on current terms no?
Are they blackmailing him with that CB position? That really is bizarre.
The fact that they have nice weather and beaches really does afford Barcelona alot of leverage when it comes to players.
Everyone falling over themselves to be screwed over financially by them just so they can live near a beach and catch some rays.
It's a miracle we've had the success we've had being based in unfashionable northern England. Imagine where we'd be if we had weather and beaches as a tool in our negotiations.
Everyone falling over themselves to be screwed over financially by them just so they can live near a beach and catch some rays.
It's a miracle we've had the success we've had being based in unfashionable northern England. Imagine where we'd be if we had weather and beaches as a tool in our negotiations.
Yeah constantly tell myself we would have walked away very early on if we had no assurances he was open to joining
No because thankfully not all fans are like you.
Tell me your perspective on it then go on.
All we have heard for weeks is "ETH wouldn't go after a player if he didn't get assurances that's why the club negotiated a fee, look what happened to Timber they moved on to Martinez quickly". Clearly these are the managers targets the club wouldn't be the one forcing him to wait around would they.
Raphinha's situation was simple. He always was set on Barcelona. Also, his situation did not last the best part of 3 months.
Unless on consideration you decide the offer is bollocks.
Ha ha, exactly.
And it’s a nothing thing anyway, he’s clearly considering 24/7 about what to do with his career at this juncture.
Everything is likely under huge consideration.
I think we'd walk away now if he firmly didn't want to come. Makes absolutely no sense and if the board knows he doesn't want to come, why would we stick around knowing the press it's going to generate (bad press).
Why would we have gone to all the effort of renegotiating a fee to ensure it'd be something Barca would accept if we didn't have encouragement from the player to do so? I just can't get my head around why we'd do that
If you have ‘money to blow’ then why not try to negotiate an exit strategy with him - rather than just saying cut your wages or leave? Nobody is going to accept that.
Maybe the FA could do us a solid and file a complaintMbappe then, lasted 3 years.
Did City have their worst season in a couple of decades just before, while at the same time managing to, somehow, worsen their squad in the following summer?
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Hard to judge without all the facts. Certainly not something to get all chewed up about before we have a resolution one way or another.
Except for the part where today a Spanish source considered highly reliable said he is leaving if he won't take a pay cut and United are the only club in the picture.
What is going on? Barca picked Frenkie's pocket for 17M over the last 2 years and want him to go away now and forget about that and he is digging in his heels to either stay on his full salary which they have unequivocally said cannot happen or he wants a settlement for his deferred money to leave. 5 more weeks in the window, why is everybody trying to rush this, you must all suck at foreplay.
If he is planning on staying, he should refuse to take any pay cut and stay on his current contract.
What’s the worse that can happen? They won’t play him. Well they ain’t gonna play him anyway!
Like I said earlier it's not so much missing out on a player it's the fact he will neglect a key position rather than sign someone else
Me neither, sounds utterly implausible. I’ll say again, Barca have been playing games all along, they want De Jong for his prime years because he’s fecking brilliant. They want him on a much lower wage, and will do everything in their power to make that happen.
It’s why the Catalan press constantly slate the idea that any dickhead would choose United and money over Barca. It’s why they desperately want to slag United off, it’s why they constantly bang on about him loving the club and taking a paycut.
They think the United consideration is a bluff, because they are arrogant as feck, they negotiated his sale thinking they were calling that bluff, and now they are pushing their narrative hard in one last attempt to get him to renegotiate his wage.
You’ve left out an important factor, United fans or at least s portion of them like a good moan about the club. If it turns nasty it’ll be because our favs can’t accept that sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t
Neither club or ETH can find 1:1 replacement. For ETH, i can understand, it's not his job.
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