Maybe because he himself and Ten Hag have said hes a 6 in a double pivot. And playing as an 8 at Barca hes not been very good. But I guess the online football experts know better
Frenkie De Jong | Performances
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Maybe because he himself and Ten Hag have said hes a 6 in a double pivot. And playing as an 8 at Barca hes not been very good. But I guess the online football experts know better
Give me Caicedo over this guy - this man played us like a fiddle, if our interest in him was genuine throughout the Summer.
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I thought ending a post with the word "period" would disentail me from replying, but now I have to! So I'll just attach the direct message that I sent to @sherrinford — I didn't want to link a paywall-less article from The Athletic in this thread…but I guess it's fine:
Tony Clifton said:
I am so glad Frenkie is enjoying the bench.
That’s lovely, but he’s still a 6 more than an 8. Just not the typical 6 you would see.
Ah that's my bad, buddy. I thought you were arguing against buying him because he's not a DM. I agree with you that Casemiro could be a complementary player for him. It's worth noting that he did play a lot of games at Ajax in a double pivot with Lasse Schone, a converted attacking mid, providing cover. Whether that will work in the PL I don't know, it will certainly require that we have a lot of possession. I know a lot of the analysis on him focuses on his play with the ball but IIRC it's not like he's a total passenger in defence, he's a pretty good ball winner as well.
He's second to Gavi now, who's a kid. A remarkable talent but I'm surprised he doesn't see the writing on the wall.
Friend who's Barca fan was telling me this summer that he'd be okay with De Jong leaving as he's too inconsistent. Don't watch their games so don't have a clue but it may be a good thing we weren't able to sign him.
“According to the Daily Mirror…..” say no more.
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If he plays bad or is stuck in rotation surely that should make the deal a bit cheaper for us, if it ever happens now. It’s obvious the player wants to try and ride this out and collect his cash while hoping he can become a key player for them again before he is fully pushed out. He’s probably thinking the only way is down from the big 2 in Spain and that’s still true when it comes to potential wages for their top earners. You can’t fault the lad for backing himself for one more season especially if he likes the lifestyle.
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everyone has so much conviction when talking about what he wants in his life, career, what happened this summer
no one really knows.. but he is surely not happy sitting on the bench, especially with the world cup approaching
no one really knows.. but he is surely not happy sitting on the bench, especially with the world cup approaching
Yeah but not unhappy enough to push for move
how do you know?
This summer a pretty big sign
More like Barca is Ken and Frenkie is Wormmon.Ohh yess ken, steal my wages, I am your friend I will protect you.
Ohh yess ken, piss of my girlfriend.
Rather the gifted VdB.
Yeah maybe, we don't know what was going on with his contract though. He might've been advised to keep quiet. Anyway, I was referring to how little he has been used so far this season. It will be a different story if this continues all season, you'd think.
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Upon re-reading those articles and re-watching the clip about Frenkie…I realised I actually don't know what role suits him best. This is something I (don't) gather from the articles and the video which describe him in the context of his teams and coaches so far. Though there are enough indications that Erik Ten Hag has a better clue than most others.
What is clear however, is that he's a very versatile and talented player who can play in multiple positions around midfield and that we really should sign him asap. I have this vague theory that if he doesn't come to us in January he will instead go to Bayern next summer.
Below is the linked content yet again, for others who might be interested in delving deeper.
Pardon for tagging you again.
Upon re-reading those articles and re-watching the clip about Frenkie…I realised I actually don't know what role suits him best. This is something I (don't) gather from the articles and the video which describe him in the context of his teams and coaches so far. Though there are enough indications that Erik Ten Hag has a better clue than most others.
What is clear however, is that he's a very versatile and talented player who can play in multiple positions around midfield and that we really should sign him asap. I have this vague theory that if he doesn't come to us in January he will instead go to Bayern next summer.
Below is the linked content yet again, for others who might be interested in delving deeper.
Impossible that we go in for him in Jan after we've spent so much money in the summer. If he comes it'll have to be next year. Unfortunately I think Bayern would be interested and that'll take us out of contention almost immediately.
Bellingham to play McTominay's role is the play next summer.
I think he is just excited to be in CL training gear.
I can't imagine a talented footballer that doesn't want to play football.
The likes of Jesus, Odegard all left their respective clubs to get more game time.
Frenkie stayed to sit on the bench in a WC year.
I don’t think he looks that great, Pedri on the other hand is ten times the player..
I thought he looked very good when he came on last night, few nice turns and runs forward, kept the ball moving well. I would still love him here if we have a chance.
I really hope he puts in a poor performance and he gets dropped for someone like Gravenberch.
Are we still interested in signing him? If we are we need to offer less compared to our last accepted bid.
feck him, he had his chance. He can now rot on the bench whilst Barca reduce his wages even further.
Cheeky January swap with VDB?
Murtough and Arnold are in charge... say no more
He'll see out this season at Barcelona. Then be a regular starter next season in his favourite position as this is busqutes last season at barcelona.
I think his wages make this dream prohibitive at Barcelona, they will still want him gone, but they should be in a better position to pay the rest of his owed wages.
He really isn't suited to the Busquets role. His biggest strength is his ability to move through midfield with the ball, but Busquets plants himself in the centre circle, does a bit of quarterbacking and puts out fires. FDJ needs to be played alongside another player in a double pivot so he can take risks in possession and join the attack, but Barca aren't going to play one because too many other players miss out in midfield. Hence he usually replaces Gavi or Pedri rather than Busquets. When Busquets was out suspended against Socieded the other week, they switched to a back 3 instead of having him just replace Busquets like for like. So far he hasnt subbed on for Busquets once this season.
I imagine he'll have a shot at some point this season, but as things stand it doesn't seem to be Barca's plan for him.
Just put in a bid for Pedri and be done with it. If Barca’s financial situation is no better, they may just have to sell.
This unambitious coward can get regular bench time at FC Barcalever as much as he likes. His mentality stinks, and I’d much rather a player with the mindset of Antony/ Martinez who would break their backs to be here.
This unambitious coward can get regular bench time at FC Barcalever as much as he likes. His mentality stinks, and I’d much rather a player with the mindset of Antony/ Martinez who would break their backs to be here.
Frenkie is best in front of the back four recieving the ball from the centrebacks, beating the press and then carrying the ball into midfield and more advanced positions.
Agree he probably needs a water carrier alongside him. The athletic did a good video on his positional prefences and his stats.
The main reason why frenkie is expendable at barcelona. The boy-king of the camp nou.
Great work from @Raeesas usual.
Great work from @Raeesas usual.
They'll sell the rest of their media rights before they let that happen.
He would be on the bench for us at the minute. Still hope we sign him after giving so much of my time to the saga during the summer.
It’s now just ETH singing Blurred Lines outside of FDJ’s bedroom window.