Fredge | Deal done
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and won the league at a canter.
Knowing how we work, it's probably 2 weeks to schedule the medical which will be after another 2 weeks. And another 2 weeks for the results.
Knowing us we're still preparing a bid.
This is a smokescreen for a new contract for Fellaini.
City just didn't match what Shakhtar were looking for, it wasn't a case of Fred's camp saying see you later. That would be the case if City were in for him right now, which they aren't (they want Jorginho).
Nope
What's Fred best position?
Is he better No.6 or No.8?
Is he better No.6 or No.8?
I wonder what Ranieri spent leading up to when Leicester won the Prem?
That was an anomaly and shouldn't be the standard on which everything is judged.
Lolz
£461 million.
So about £100m more, like them we have wasted quite alot though. Our 2 CBs signings haven't worked out the best
Their combined fee is around the same as what City paid for just Laporte.
I don't understand the need for the comparison, my point was that both clubs have wasted money and we're going to like them end up paying a hefty fee to fix (Alderweireld)
Lindelof is like our Mangala
Yep.
But that’s the difference of the spending on a big signing or a transfer window considering United’s average spending the past 2 summer windows has been £150m.
Combine that with the inherited players/starters Pep had and yea it’s quite the uphill battle.
I don't doubt that
Have we even prepared the bid yet ?
OK that's just not true.
Mangala was bought for 42 million or something a few years before Lindelof.
Lindelof was bought for 30+5.
Secondly Mangala is a brute without much brain whereas Lindelof is an intelligent footballer although he lacks a bit in the physical department.
Mangala looked like an absolute disaster a few times but I don't think Lindelof has been that bad.
Transfer is always risky. I see other teams made bad signings and wasted resource too. Just because people love to go sensational with current affair to draw conclusion, it is fair/true. Even with resource wasted by somebodies' opinions, teams won things. They're underachieving due to expectation than they're failing. Failing is when they club can't grow, they're no longer invest in hope of improving. As reality shows in long run, financial power goes hand to hand with how clubs can build sustainable success so it is justified in football discussion
Players transfer is not all . In Lindelof case, it's too soon to just write him off. Mangala was not marked as failure after one season. He is after failing for few years in the row to justify the fee and hype back then. Mangala was among top 5 most expensive defenders when he was signed by City. His style was supposed to be ready made for PL (physicality). Lindelof was not hyped as such and still has time to prove himself.
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I personally don't think he is a bad player.
My point is we have CB as a priority signing this summer, that makes his signing a fail, possibly even Bailly also
Lindelof was not signed as outright upgrade. His signing was more about reacting to Rojo injury. So let's say we didn't sign him. We went into the season with Smalling Jones Bailly + makeshift CB Blind who Mourinho clearly doesn't rate as CB for half the season waiting for Rojo. Lindelof made mistake cost us here and there but same time in his other games he did his job or we're without option with all Blind Jones and Bailly out injured plus Rojo was unfit.
Should we just stick with this into next season or Blind Jones Rojo Bailly fitness situation needs resolved? You talk as if Blind Jones Rojo (even Bailly) are all healthy and kicking so that we're sorted and should look else where. I meant even before Mourinho became the manager, Jones and Rojo were on people rid list for the very same issue. We wanted at least 2 new CB signings there. Now Blind and the new CB has fitness issue, so the third new signing is needed. It's not rocket science ffs.
Our 2 CB signings since Jose arrived didn't start the cup final, indeed its not rocket science. One of which was one of the 4 specialists required to challenge.
Jones didn't start EL final last season despite being fit for Blind. Look at Blind this season. How many games as CB? Jones came into this season first as starter and Smalling was on the bench at the start of this season. Season ended, Smalling is a sure starter. We made use of best performers at the moment doesn't mean in long term it's the same.
Its mean we still are nowhere near having a solid partnership at the back, one of the bedrocks of a solid title winning and UCL winning side. But I guess the 70m we have spent at CB was worth it. And the lack of development of Tuanzebe and Fosu Mensah also.
Lindelof purchase was totally unnecessary and a waste of money, especially when we needed either a solid CB as a starter, a FB, a RW the list goes on
EDIT: Anyway this isn't the thread for it, just like City we have wasted money at CB
And in the meantime there'll be news of a new bidder entering the fray, while Fred is being interviewing and saying he doesn't know where he's going yet
The thing is the way you put it, it's like you're writing Bailly off as failure. He had been a starter in between his injuries, and only got displaced for the time being (similar to Pogba during his bad patch). The whole manager's signings not starting in the final is just an exaggeration for nothing as I pointed out. Did Rio Ferdinand have a smooth sailing with us or he was under question for quite sometimes and even look to abandon ship for Chelsea.
To come back with Lindelof purchase as unnecessary after I explained about our CBs situation coming into this season, you look like deliberately ignoring point? On one hand people want us to go all out to compete with competitions winners who throw money to fix problem. On the other hand, we saw a lack of safe options in the squad, but we're obligated to develop youngster instead address the issue? Not even Barcelona the media darling can do that nowadays when their level is at the top let alone us in position we are after SAF.
If you can't see it, then we can agree to disagree now than going in circle and derail the thread.
And it will drago on till the end of transfer window and we'll be happy with signing just Arnautovic.
I meant in terms of attacking midfielder being turned into a holding mid, just hoping we use him appropriately (If he signs)
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In all seriousness though, we did love a good smokescreen last year and it worked well largely. I can't imagine the the club won't do it again this year, so who are we actually going for assuming it probably isn't actually Fred?
How soon is soon?
last day of the transfer window
What, after his move to City falls through?
Jose coudn't possible be signing him to play left back could he....
Considering Di Marzio and Fabrizio have run with Fred, we are probably serious about him. They've even gone as far as to say that a medical is going to happen...which they did with Sanchez back in January.
What you said makes little sense because you are assuming the possible change of position won't benefit him and the team by using an example of a change bringing lots of good stuff for player (Carrick) and club.
The way I see it is this, if his position bis tweaked to get him to perform better, I am all for it. Time will tell
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