He gives hope to Igbal that there's always.. always.. a place for Iqbal in United squad.
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You watched the wrong game
If you think he wasn’t that bad then you know absolutely nothing about football. Simple as that
Fair assessment, yet he's a central midfielder for Manchester United and Brazil. Let that sink in.
I think Mainoo or Iqbal would have been less catastrophic in there tonight
Did he pass to a red shirt in the second half?
Not for United level. Same as Bruno, AWB, Weighorst, MCT.
horrible to watch today. If he played a 10 percent better, United would've won.
horrible to watch today. If he played a 10 percent better, United would've won.
He was bad but he was the only midfielder. Sabitzer wasn't really giving him support and Bruno was far up. The moment you ask Fred to stay back and pass from deep, we know what's going to happen. That's exactly what happened today.
We miss Casemiro and Eriksen.
We miss Casemiro and Eriksen.
I wonder if you actually watched the game
Dreadful. It was one of those games for him. Worst player on the pitch. Passing was way off and he kept overcommitting and getting dribbled past.
Midfield was wide open all game. Him and Sabitzer didn't do their jobs well.
Midfield was wide open all game. Him and Sabitzer didn't do their jobs well.
Prepare for the same next 2 games, he's half the player without Casemiro.
Looks like my post has engaged quite a few responses
I don't disagree. For my own mental sporting health and expectations, I just 'accept' a performance like this from Fred because we've seen it too many times (very high highs and very low lows). To be fair, the whole midfield trio was bit of a shambles but that's kind of expected with both first choices out.
That last 25 minutes from him after the equaliser is basically non league level
Bottom line is this is similar to what you get when you stick Fred next to McTominay, or anyone else that isn't a true holding midfielder. He's terrible as a distributor. But the real issue for me alongside those giveaways is he really didn't win many challenges either, we seemed to go 60 minutes without winning a 50/50 ball, and to top it all off he missed at least two great chances to score.
I still think he's very useful as a more advanced pressing 8 like he's done for us this year and excelled, but games like this will expose all of his weaknesses in this role
I still think he's very useful as a more advanced pressing 8 like he's done for us this year and excelled, but games like this will expose all of his weaknesses in this role
Was he that bad ? I only watched the last 10 minutes and he was ok. Also the highlight show that Alejandro and Bruno lost the ball leading to goals.
All over the place with everything. He's not been this erratic for a while now but my God he was terrible today. We really miss Casemiro.
He's in for a rough night. Deservedly I might add.
This is exactly why he was never a starter for EtH. Off the bench when everything is rosy is fine, but expecting him to set the tempo against a hyper Leeds?
Stinker. Cheers, Case.
This is exactly why he was never a starter for EtH. Off the bench when everything is rosy is fine, but expecting him to set the tempo against a hyper Leeds?
Stinker. Cheers, Case.
Any chance we had of pinning them back after our equaliser was killed with his terrible passing.
Yes, he’s a work horse but is only effective with high quality midfielders around him. As soon as he is required to be anything more than the legs, he and subsequently the team fall to pieces.
MOTM for me. He won the ball back so many times and runs himself completely empty
Lol
Lol
1 man midfield show today and he was all over the place. Bayern dude is not ready for this level.
People are just irrational in judging Fred. Fred isn't a passer, close control player. He's a high press, defend, and counter kind of player. Very useful in that scope, but utilized outside his limits due to the absences. Still better at his B2B/pressing role than any other midfielder we have and probably 17 other teams in the EPL. You can't expect him to be what he isn't and then say sell him... unless you are a pissed Caf fan after a bad draw. Then its okay haha
People are just irrational in judging Fred. Fred isn't a passer, close control player. He's a high press, defend, and counter kind of player. Very useful in that scope, but utilized outside his limits due to the absences. Still better at his B2B/pressing role than any other midfielder we have and probably 17 other teams in the EPL. You can't expect him to be what he isn't and then say sell him... unless you are a pissed Caf fan after a bad draw. Then its okay haha
Then why did ETH take Sabitzer off instead of him?
Really did seem as though everything he touched went wrong.
Would love to see some actual stats for attempts on target and passes completed, just to see if he was as poor as I thought. It got so bad I was thinking the only way Leeds can win this 3-2 is with Fred’s help. Maybe I was being harsh.
needs to go. Hes a disaster. Cant pass to save his life which is pretty important in a premier league midfield. Spends his time giving thumbs up to teammates to apologise for sloppy passes.
Fred has played well when Casamiro is along side him. Tonight he was utter garbage, back to the old Fred, woeful passing and constantly loosing the ball. Hes such a friggin panicker.
Probably fatigue
Maybe because he was booked or because he’s not Played much football recently and was out on his feet.
Erratic and makes poor decisions with the ball. At times he should just hold onto it, he gives out a cheap pass and gets dispossessed.
Shocking performance from him tonight. Many levels below the standards required at this club - as much as I like his personality etc it's clear that he simply isn't good enough either as a starter or backup.
Should be offloaded in the summer.
Should be offloaded in the summer.
He was so bad and frustrating. But he got even worse after our equalizer. He pretty much played for Leeds after that.
One of the worst performances you'll see from a Man United midfielder. Abysmal.
One of the worst performances you'll see from a Man United midfielder. Abysmal.
Probably drop a 10/10 on Sunday, he's that type of player.
Fred will never be Casemiro but that shouldn't be news to anyone in the squad or watching illegally online.
The problems arise when the team continues to play as if Casemiro is playing. Don't give Fred the ball when he is under pressure facing his own goal! simple!
The problems arise when the team continues to play as if Casemiro is playing. Don't give Fred the ball when he is under pressure facing his own goal! simple!
His ratio of bad to good games is 5:1. Boot this guy out of our club ASAP.
Xavi-esque
He brings a lot of energy to the game. But he needs to channel it much more cleverly. Was bad today although he ran his socks off
In that he has two legs and wore boots?
If you were colourblind and couldn't tell what shirt each player was wearing, you'd have thought he was playing for Leeds tonight.
Felt like he didn't pass to a red shirt all game.
Felt like he didn't pass to a red shirt all game.
So how come our coaching staff doesn’t know that?
Shaw could be tried there, lindelof or as crazy as it sounds play one sitting midfielder in sabitzer and play both Shaw and Malacia and two cbs and a right back if we need more defensive cover. Shaw can slot in the middle.
You do have to admit how brilliantly he contributed to the whole chaotic nature of the game. Pretty much a central piece of it, so quite like Xavi, only on opposite end of the spectrum.
Simply not good enough has to be let go in the summer if any buyer wants him.
His passing was actually worse than his shooting tonight, which should be an impossible task yet somehow he did it.
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