Any PL quality midfielder should be dealing with that ball for the first goal safely. Maguire shouldn't have played the ball to him but it is shocking technique from Fred.
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Easy now after a shit show from Fred and Kanté has returned to being flavour of the month only a week ago.
Try over an 18 month period. Not a chance Kanté has been better in that period.
Even when he was playing his best football, his limitations were too obvious. He isn't good enough technically to start for a team that wants to challenge for big trophies
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Terrific assist today shame it was at the wrong end
He gets away with a lot of silly mistakes almost every single game, no exaggeration. He's almost like the Titus Bramble of centre midfield, except Bramble played in a position where mistakes are less likely for the team to recover from.
There were like 3 good minutes right at the start then he just fell apart. Kinda got better later in the 2nd half but aye, one of the worst performances I can remember seeing him have.
Everyone knows to target Fred because he can't receive the ball or pass it.
Funny that a midfielder doesn't have two of the main attributes you would want in a Midfielder.
Can't be a starter next year.
It was terrible and remember how bad he was in the first half versus Milan.
Fred is just bad.
He’s so shite it’s mad. So many times it should be his ball and then the other team win it back, we used to have the complete opposite in midfield. And Jesus Christ the passing, absolutely pathetic. Losing it time after time after time. Then please do not get me started on the final third - he’s no better than Bebe and that’s no exaggeration. He showed today he’s an absolute disaster in his own third too. £50m bag of shite.
One of many overpriced wasters we’ve got. Get some personality and quality in midfield.
One of many overpriced wasters we’ve got. Get some personality and quality in midfield.
And now Fred is getting racially abused again.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-after-manchester-uniteds-defeat-by-leicester
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-after-manchester-uniteds-defeat-by-leicester
This pass pretty much led to their third goal too
fans sure are fickle.
Every midfielder that has played next to Matic in a double pivot looked bad this season. It’s unfortunate but Matic has lost his legs fir this level and shouldn’t be starting games anymore.
So it's on Matic that Fred can't pass a ball 5 yards to a teammate countless times in a game?
Agreed. He's one of a number of players who are good if we just want to compete for top 4 but will hold us back from improving (e.g. Martial, Matic, Lindelof).
Such hyperbolic BS in here.
he had a tough night against a very good midfield. 1 bad game doesn’t mean he isn’t good enough - most of the mistakes are his own individual error, probably through tiredness.
this guy plays every match and runs his ass off for the team, he never hides either.
very sad how quickly people can turn just because he made a mistake.
he had a tough night against a very good midfield. 1 bad game doesn’t mean he isn’t good enough - most of the mistakes are his own individual error, probably through tiredness.
this guy plays every match and runs his ass off for the team, he never hides either.
very sad how quickly people can turn just because he made a mistake.
Don't know what you have been watching but he makes a careless bad pass or loses the ball in a dangerous area in almost every game I have watched him play. It's just sooner or later that it is going to be punished by some teams. Today was one of the days.
That's exactly our problem. He will win the ball, harass the opponent, do all dirty work but just don't expect any creative work from him. And what are we doing? We pair him with McT who Is a similar player and expect them to pass. Would it work ? No and then we blame him for doing it. You won't get it from him he just isn't that kind of player.
If anything, the blame should be on manager and coaching staff for not cutting that trait .
Yea one bad game. . . It’s not known within Football that he’s a weak point at all.
Neither are most of our starting players.
I'm reluctant to defend Fred, but I feel like we set him up big time tactically. How often he is like an island in the middle of the pitch, tasked with receiving the ball with his back to play and then navigating a way past 4 of their players to pick out our statues who stand in a line up front.
There's no excusing him for today, but our system puts so much pressure on his every touch and pass being immaculate because of the space between our players. For a team that wants to pass out from the back, using mainly 1 midfielder as an outlet, the shape of the team is all wrong. Watch City or other great possession teams to see how they do it.
There's no excusing him for today, but our system puts so much pressure on his every touch and pass being immaculate because of the space between our players. For a team that wants to pass out from the back, using mainly 1 midfielder as an outlet, the shape of the team is all wrong. Watch City or other great possession teams to see how they do it.
prob from someone who wants id tied into social network accounts. Taking the knees clearly working putting racism in the minds game after game.....but Fred was poor and must look to do better starting from now.
If Fred's ability was equal to his passion and work-rate, he'd be fantastic. I'd much rather have Fred in the team than Martial, who is literally stealing a living.
Matic is not the reason Fred misplaced the ball multiple times in the game.
Can't blame Fred for the goal. It was Maguire who put him in a precarious position. You expect Fred to hit the ball harder and potentially score an own goal?
Where was Lindelof or Matic or AWB or Shaw?
Where was Lindelof or Matic or AWB or Shaw?
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Yes you can, he's a £50m Brazilian international playing in central midfield for one of Europes top sides. He should be able to make that pass to the keeper, it was a mistake and every player makes them but let's not spout shite here.
So he cant pass the ball 10 yards to his keeper, because of a little pressure? Sounds like he shouldnt be playing at this level.
Big facts
He and Matic were terrible yesterday.
Tielemans and Ndidi were light years ahead.
Tielemans and Ndidi were light years ahead.
Perhaps but i think that highlights that we do need a player with much better technical ability than Fred in central midfield to get to the next level.
Saul for 50M or a good coaching staff ?
Whats creative about making a 5 yards pass to a wide player? Thats just basics
Yes, because a £50m Brazilian international midfielder should be able to just what weight to put on a ball to get it to his intended target. Although yesterday Fred proved over and over that he's incapable of that, even over 10 yards on a 4 vs 3 counter attack.
Honestly, Shaktar pulled our pants down on his transfer fee. We've been mugged off. If Fred left United none of the big clubs would be interested. The fact that players like Troy Deeney talk openly about seeing Fred as a pressing trigger is concerning. Other teams see him as our weak link and they're right to. In a slower, less hussle and bussle league maybe he'd look amazing? In England he's more calamity than Casemiro.
the last few games his passing has been alot worse than usual. fcking awful. Djemba-Djemba esque
really dissappointing.
really dissappointing.
It's funny we spent 50 million on Fred just to downgrade on Herrera.
Hopefully CM is addressed In the summer.
Hopefully CM is addressed In the summer.
Unfortunately we need 2 signings there minimum so doubt it
Yeah but if we keep Pogba and the one CM/CDM signing is actually good we can hopefully get away with it.
CM over a CB for me.
He was good against Milan, what you talking about.
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