She's going one step further. Surprised she got in, but that American guy didn't. Maybe they didn't want the German broadcast missing its commentator
Foreign secretary advice to LGBT fans.... Be respectful
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She's going one step further. Surprised she got in, but that American guy didn't. Maybe they didn't want the German broadcast missing its commentator
Just thinking, you could also have made the goalkeeper captain for the day and effectively reduced the competitive impact of the yellow card anyway. Unless he starts actively timewasting he's very unlikely to get a second yellow.
Suggestion now (on Sky) seems to be that Kane (or one of the other captains) might also have been banned for a match had they worn the armband.
Agree it’s really disgusting. They deserve all the shit that will hopefully get thrown their way in the next few days.
Sounds like FIFA are making up the rules as they go along to please someone.
As a gay football fan, I have never found the sport so spineless and depressing as I have today. I’ve not been particularly excited about this World Cup for obvious reasons, but knowing some teams/players were going and sticking up for our community at least gave us something.
I hoped maybe one of the captains would have stood up for us regardless of FIFA’s abhorrent obsequiousness. But nope, nothing, nada, zilch. Feeling really represented right now.
But we must respect the host nation mustn’t we. How dare we not respect a culture that insists homosexuality is punishable. I don’t care what your reasons are, that is never an acceptable stance.
I hoped maybe one of the captains would have stood up for us regardless of FIFA’s abhorrent obsequiousness. But nope, nothing, nada, zilch. Feeling really represented right now.
But we must respect the host nation mustn’t we. How dare we not respect a culture that insists homosexuality is punishable. I don’t care what your reasons are, that is never an acceptable stance.
Well the players aren’t getting booked for kneeling for a start. The players are in a tough spot having initially committed to wearing them. Everyone’s anger should be directed at Fifa rather than the players. Not sure what Alex Scott has to do with this, she’s not going to end up suspended so it’s not the same thing.
Oh wow he’s right not to make any sort of quantifiable sacrifice in protest for a cause he is such a great ambassador for.
God forbid he misses a game of football while making a stand for something he believes in. I’m sure he’s won the hearts and minds of the LGBTQ+ community he uses to raise his profile via virtue signalling. Because let’s be honest, it cannot be called anything other than virtue signalling if he drops them at the first moment things get uncomfortable for him.
Absolutely, if I was lgbt I would really be wondering if those in my community who apparently support lgbt rights would actually do anything if those rights were taken away. It's depressing and a bit scary.
Or maybe they are footballers and are here to just play football?
People should criticize those countries that are backing out now because they've built a bunch of PR over this issue and at the first sign of trouble they've backed away, but to expect other countries who have never done this to suddenly come and take your side is unfair because they've never gotten into these things in the first place.
The more this goes on the more I think the issue is that very few people give a shit about anything other than themselves. They may not activeky dislike the LGBT community, thought there are probably some who do, but they'd go to zero bother to help them. Or anyone maybe.
I've always been a bolshy prick and most people through my life have just ignored my arm waving. I'm well used to it and while it bothered younger me, I've learned people have all types og shit and distractions so I've learned not to judge their indifference but I'm almost 50 now and while people have walked past protests and strikes eyes down I've never encountered push back to protest like this, ever.
Says it all really. We really should have stood up for this issue instead of bowing to the pressure.
What kind of value is it to deny people basic human rights?
What kind of value is it to deny people basic human rights?
Some people truly do not understand the concept of earning respect. Then again how could one really expect it from people not needing to earn anything in life.
When you have money you buy respect, and when you have power, people feign it.
Honestly? feck Qatar.
They don't care. This particular 'sportswashing' exercise is not for us liberal European types. The rest of the world will love Qatar for this.
all this fuss over a shirt.Should've just apologized and said everyone is welcome, just as they promised.
Qataris currently finding out that it's not that easy
Also seeing a lot of comparisons between the legality of alcohol consumption with that of homosexuality. As if they are remotely comparable. To say both should be respected due to differences in culture.
Denying people the right to consume alcohol and denying people the right to be themselves are nothing alike.
This World Cup is actually stoking up more division and hatred, which reminds me of Gary Neville’s comments on Have I Got News For You. How’s the media/players/pundits speaking up against Qatar’s human rights violations going Gary? I’d give it a solid 0/10 so far.
They did in the end, someone from FIFA apologised to him and said it was for his own safety.
Should've just apologized and said everyone is welcome, just as they promised.
It's so strange to see a country ban clothes with rainbows. Farcical.
I feel like "Snowflake" is either being used as a meme or one of the biggest intellectual tramp stamp of the internet.
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Do you think that's what gay people do?
A better analogy would be if someone came into your house and told you they were gay.
Genuinely just ignore anyone who posts that and isn’t being ironic.
Yeah for me the real issue as this rolls on is not that Qatar are not accepting of LGBT people but the fact that people here in the apparently equality obsessed and 'enlightened' lands won't stand up for them. The acceptance and welcoming we are so self congratulatory on seems increasingly paper thin but hopefully that's an incorrect hot take on my part.
For people to rush to abandon solidarity given the thinnest justification such as 'culture' is depressing.
Yeah, people are gonna call out despotic regimes for being despotic. That's hardly bullying.
Qatar bribed their way to hosting this world cup in order to make people forget about their human rights record. I think it's important not to forget about that, and this is why lots of people keep talking about it - not out of some kind of irrational prejudice against Qatar.
What a piece of fecking shit, seriously.
‘The westerners’… what the feck are these morons doing hosting a World Cup if they despise ‘Western values’ that much?
Why not just leave the Western world and commercial football alone if that’s the attitude!?
Literally banning the word "love". Quite symbolical.
because they obviously don't have to. they already made players and managers behave the way they want to and not a single one will have the balls to go against them, not even the biggest names. they will have the world cup under their rules, meaning their plan is working perfectly.
Yep.
Totally agree with Keane!
Cowards and really shitty statement, what a statement it would have been to go out there and play a fine fair game and perhaps win on a yellow all game long
Cowards and really shitty statement, what a statement it would have been to go out there and play a fine fair game and perhaps win on a yellow all game long
Women in Iran have been giving up their lives for something they believe in, but Harry Kane & co. can’t miss a football match.
Absolute fecking pussies, this was your catch to stand up and say a massive feck you to FIFA & show solidarity, but instead you choose to not give a shit. Sure there will be lots of lovely soundbites about caring later mind.
Spineless cnuts.
Absolute fecking pussies, this was your catch to stand up and say a massive feck you to FIFA & show solidarity, but instead you choose to not give a shit. Sure there will be lots of lovely soundbites about caring later mind.
Spineless cnuts.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-63710435
An ex-Wales footballer has described being asked to remove her "rainbow wall" bucket hat as she entered a World Cup stadium in Qatar.
The rainbow version of Welsh fan hats shows support for LGBT people.
Laura McAllister, a gay woman and past FIFA Council candidate, said she was told to remove her hat before the start of Wales' opener against the USA.
The World Cup organisers FIFA have been asked to comment.
An ex-Wales footballer has described being asked to remove her "rainbow wall" bucket hat as she entered a World Cup stadium in Qatar.
The rainbow version of Welsh fan hats shows support for LGBT people.
Laura McAllister, a gay woman and past FIFA Council candidate, said she was told to remove her hat before the start of Wales' opener against the USA.
The World Cup organisers FIFA have been asked to comment.
And Bale and co..
Had perhaps naively thought the point of the tournament would be to project a more "presentable" image of the country that would at least be undermined by all the negative coverage. But if it's instead about projecting power, particularly within their own geopolitical sphere, then even that hope is dashed.
All very grim. Not sure what negative consequences for Qatar/FIFA we can even hope for.
The & co includes Bale any other player at the World Cup to spineless to stand up for what he believes in.
Is this that dipshit ambassador twat?