Gaming Football Manager 2010

He's also a bit of a wimp. Sell him to Madrid while you still can.

In other news, I'm considering retraining De Rossi as a defender for his last couple of seasons.
 
I sold him for a tidy profit while I still could. He was still a very good player, but in another couple of seasons he would be worth nothing. I do the same to all my players, and have done it to Aguero, Pjanic, Kroos, Abel Hernandez, Neymar, Dzagoev, Mexes, Marquinhos, etc.

Of course, in all those cases I had young players ready to take the step up to a regular, or I had equally good realistic targets in sight. I'm now in 2022, so I've learned how to think ahead.
 
Felipe now has 5 goals in 5 at the start of the new season. Typical.

Although, i've been playing him in the central striking role and moved Pato out as wide forward, and he hasn't been scoring. Don't think he's gonna get his 57 goals this season!

As for the skin i'm using, i actually have to check, because i can't remember.
 
Right, a few questions for experts:

1. Youth Development with a team coming up through the ranks. Is it pretty pointless to do? I've been trying it but none of my youngsters are improving much/at all, some haven't improved at all after 3 whole seasons (eg I signed Josh King on a free, and nobody even wants to buy him off me now). I have very good coaches but my training facilities have only just been upgraded to "good". Do you need top facilities to produce world class players like those posted here?

2. How much attention do you pay to the star ratings used by coaches and scouts? None of them rate my centre mid (2 stars) but he does well enough on the pitch and has very good stats. And with the youth development thing, my players never reach the high potential star rating, which drops season by season it seems. For the record my assistant and scouts have highest ratings in judging ability.

3. Positions. How much difference does it make playing someone in their natural position, opposed to accomplished or competent, or even non-existent. It really pisses off my that a natural DM supposedly can't play in CM, for example. And I'm reluctant to sign AMs because I don't know where to play them in a 442. Oh, also, wide forwards. What are they all about then. My assistant doesn't rate my strikers or wingers in that position, so who can actually play there?
 
What have people found Rooney's best role to be?
 
Can't give you exact answers to these questions, but i'll answer based on my experience.

1. If you have a youth player, that only has the potential to be decent, then it takes a lot of work to get them good enough. Thats why i don't usually focus on the average youth players and only try to develop the best. The only way they'll really improve is by given them games, so just loan them out or starting playing them or they'll never improve. Training schedules for your youth are also important as far as i know.

2. The ratings can be very misleading. I usually use it as a guide, then look at the players stats and performance, and make the judgement on how good they are myself/.

For example, in my current game my 19 year old inexperienced right back is only 2 stars, and my assistant says i should strengthen that area, but he's doing the job, so i don't see the need to change it.

3. I've had players in the past that have become natural at positions they didn't even play in the first place. You need a combination of new position training, playing them in that new position consistantly, a lot of time (it can take 2 seasons sometimes) and the player needs to be adaptable enough.

I had a winger that was a natural CM after 1 and a half seasons of playing there week in and week out. I'd assume training a DM to play there would be far quicker.
 
Right, a few questions for experts:

1. Youth Development with a team coming up through the ranks. Is it pretty pointless to do? I've been trying it but none of my youngsters are improving much/at all, some haven't improved at all after 3 whole seasons (eg I signed Josh King on a free, and nobody even wants to buy him off me now). I have very good coaches but my training facilities have only just been upgraded to "good". Do you need top facilities to produce world class players like those posted here?

No, it's definitely worth doing. I don't use any cheats (unless you count downloaded training regiments cheating), no FM Scout or any of that sort, and I'm almost completely relying on youth now. I still buy the odd superstar for obscene amounts of money, but then I can afford that simply because I've got at least 5 top players in my current team who I bought for next to nothing and brought up through the ranks.

The thing is, you're going to have hits and misses. A lot more misses than hits. I very rarely go in outright negative on players, even players that don't turn out that great, but it does happen. But the superstars make up for it and more. Top fascilities aren't all of it, though they certainly help. The single most important factor (except for their potential, which you can only sort of know, and even with 20 scouting potential they are often wrong, either positively or negatively), is letting them play.

Either loan them out to somewhere they will get to play (like a feeder-club in a lower level, or even same level if they are good but not quite ready), or play them yourself when you can. I never loaned Thon, probably the best youngster I've ever had) out. He was ready to play a little bit of first team football when he was 17, substitutions, cups, etc.

Oh, and you have to think very long term. There's little point doing the youth thing if you think you'll play 5 seasons or less. I'm currently in my 11th or so season with Roma.

2. How much attention do you pay to the star ratings used by coaches and scouts? None of them rate my centre mid (2 stars) but he does well enough on the pitch and has very good stats. And with the youth development thing, my players never reach the high potential star rating, which drops season by season it seems. For the record my assistant and scouts have highest ratings in judging ability.

It varies. I rarely pay any attention to the ratings you get when you ask for a team report from the Assistant. It just doesn't really add up. And a change SI made in the last couple of FM's is that scouts will frequently be wrong about players. I had a player in a game that was pretty good in Norway, but my very good assistant said he would never get better. So when I got a job at a top European club, I left him in Norway. A few seasons later he was the best striker in the World. If they keep improving, keep playing them.

3. Positions. How much difference does it make playing someone in their natural position, opposed to accomplished or competent, or even non-existent. It really pisses off my that a natural DM supposedly can't play in CM, for example. And I'm reluctant to sign AMs because I don't know where to play them in a 442. Oh, also, wide forwards. What are they all about then. My assistant doesn't rate my strikers or wingers in that position, so who can actually play there?

No idea about wide forwards. As for the positions, there's no doubt they're best in their natural position. That doesn't mean you can't change that, though.

I bought Fabio from United with Roma, and he was a left back with something like accomplished on right back. And my assistant said he wouldn't improve, and his best position was left back. But he was right-footed, and I needed a right back, so I set him to train that position, and played him there. Before very long he was a natural right back, and was better there than left. If you're doing the youth thing you can pretty much mould them into whatever you want, if you have the patience.


If it seems like I just wrote an essay, I think it might have something to do with me actually writing an exam right now.
 
Cheers it's all good advice.

I'm going to stick with the youth development thing for sure, but I'm having to admit that all of my efforts for the first four seasons were a failure. In my 5th season now and some awesome regens are appearing, I've got hold of a couple already. My initial tactic was to sign up 18 year olds released from the big 4, mostly United, who my scouts rated. But I guess there was a reason they were released as all have failed. I'm going to focus more on snapping up the best regens now, and hopefully even producing some of my own now my youth academy has been upgraded.

So yeah, I do think I'd advise players with lower league teams against my tactic, but now I'm in the Premiership I'll definitely keep it up.
 
What have people found Rooney's best role to be?

For about seven seasons I've alternated him as a deep-lying forward next to Dzeko (who is advanced) or as an advanced forward next to Aguerro (who is the deep-lying forward). He can also play up top on his own with others playing off him as AMs or Trequartista. At 33 he is still banging goals in. Makes a good captain as well.
 
Just started playing this as well. Chose Fulham, 4 mill transfer budget.

Anyone got any recommendations for good midfielders I can get for that amount?
 
Just started playing this as well. Chose Fulham, 4 mill transfer budget.

Anyone got any recommendations for good midfielders I can get for that amount?

Think I got Witsel for around 4m in my first season at Spurs. He's still young but becomes excellent once developed.
 
I think it's time I start a Chester City game. That was my original CM team. That is, I'd at least have a Chester City game and a United game. Then Maidenhead United took over that role. I still like both those teams, despite never having seen a single match involving either of them.
 
Manchester United 2011/12

Lloris

Brown Evans Chiellini Evra

Fletcher Melo

Rooney/Valencia -------- Modric

Aguero/Rooney Pato​

----------------------

Boruc

O'Shea Breno Cathcart Fabio

C.Evans Bender

Valencia -------- Keita

Rooney/Welbeck Macheda​
 
2009-2010
Trophies: Premier League, Champions League, Carling Cup, Community Shield
Transfers in €
In: Lloris 19 + Gibson, Chiellini 31, Aguero 60, Areola 350k, Van der Vaart (625k Loan)
Out: De Leat 2.3, Gibson (exch), kuzchack 3.9, Heaton 130k, Park 8, Diouf 650k loan, Brandy 70k, Foster 850k loan
Champions League: United 2 Arsenal 0 (Brown, Valencia)
Premier League: United 94, City 84, Liverpool 75, Chelsea 70
Carling Cup: United 1 Everton 1 (Rooney, Vaughan) - (5-4 shoot out)
Community: Chelsea 0 United 1 (Aguero)


Lloris

Brown Ferdinand/Chiellini Vidic Evra
Carrick
Valencia ------Fletcher
-------------------------Nani/Giggs
Aguero
--------------Rooney
2010-2011
Trophies: Community Shield, Uefa Supercup...
Transfers in €
In: Smalling 8, Riquelme 0, Camporese 0, Keohane 80k, Modric 8.5 + Berbatov, Melo 27.5, Cardozo 12.75, L.Diarra 925k loan, Van der Steen 2.3, Keita 3 loan, Robinho 3.5 loan, El Asmar 16.25
Out: Nani 14, Diouf 6.5, Owen 2.8, Rafael 8.5, Drinkwater 575k, Gray 3, Foster 8, Areola 350k, Berbatov (exch), Carrick 17.25, Nordwood 275k, Dudgeon 525k, Amos 1.1, Tosic 9, R.Ferdinand 23.5, Hargreaves 7, Cleverley 3.6, Obertan 12
Community: United 3 Aston Villa 2 (Milner A.V, Aguero, Aguero, Gago A.V, Cardozo)
Uefa Supercup: United 2 Roma 0 (Riquelme, Rooney)

Lloris

Brown Chiellini Vidic Evra

Valencia F.Melo Modric

Riquelme

Aguero Rooney​

2010-2011
Trophies: Community Shield, Uefa Supercup, Champions League, Premier League, FA Cup, Confederation Cup
Transfers in €
In: Smalling 8, Riquelme 0, Camporese 0, Keohane 80k, Modric 8.5 + Berbatov, Melo 27.5, Cardozo 12.75, L.Diarra 925k loan, Van der Steen 2.3, Keita 3 loan, Robinho 3.5 loan, El Asmar 16.25
Out: Nani 14, Diouf 6.5, Owen 2.8, Rafael 8.5, Drinkwater 575k, Gray 3, Foster 8, Areola 350k, Berbatov (exch), Carrick 17.25, Nordwood 275k, Dudgeon 525k, Amos 1.1, Tosic 9, R.Ferdinand 23.5, Hargreaves 7, Cleverley 3.6, Obertan 12, Anderson 6.75, Eikrem 210k, Possebon 2.9, Riquelme 2
Community: United 3 Aston Villa 2 (Milner A.V, Aguero, Aguero, Gago A.V, Cardozo)
Uefa Supercup: United 2 Roma 0 (Riquelme, Rooney)
Champions League: United 2 Liverpool 0 (Aguero, Rooney)
Premier League: United 88, City 79, Arsenal 76, Liverpool 73
FA Cup: United 2 Arsenal 0 (Aguero, Melo)
Confederation Cup: United 6 Cruz Azul 0 (Aguero, Aguero, Aguero, Brown, Cardozo, Valencia)

Lloris

Brown Chiellini Vidic Evra

Rooney Fletcher F.Melo Modric

Aguero Macheda​
 
I'd very much like to know how you managed to buy Pato, Aguero, Lloris, Chiellini and Melo in two seasons O.o

Three

I will update the 3rd season, I signed Pato for 78, but I sold Vidic for 34, Cardozo (flop) for 16.7...

I wanted to sign Pique for 50, but at the end I decided for Pato (78, 72 cash)

I'm trying him during the preseason, works well with Rooney, he is something of absurd, fantastic assistman
 
You played Aguero as a deep lying forward? :eek::eek::eek:

I found that he works best as a poacher.

I play him as an advanced forward, next to Lukaku who plays as a complete forward. He finished his first season with 30 goals and 20 assists!
 
Well at the end of my first season i've won the league with 5 games left at my first attempt of the game. My only 2 signings were Modric and Lloris and my only sale was Foster.

Also, Rooney has scored 33 league goals in 32(1) appearances as an Advanced Forward. I'm trying him as a deep lying forward in the dead rubber games though to see if he's just as proflific.

I've messed about with my formation all season, I have a 4231 that works brilliantly but i don't like it because i want to sign another striker. I've finished the season playing a 41122 (similar to the 1 domzi posted) but there's no doubt i'm much weaker at the back with this formation.

EDIT: fecking finally. After 18 hours without a goal Berbatov finally fecking scores. When it doesnt matter. League was win and it was the 5th goal against Brum :lol:
 
Is it really wrong of me to take a job at a bigger club, but just before I leave, give all the players I want at my new club minimum fee release clauses? :nervous:
 
2011/12

Long life to Brown and O'Shea, I'm unable to find the players I would like as a right back

Maicon, Alves: Expansive and weak defensevely, a bit old (29-30)
Corluka: decent one, but a bit too average and slow
Lovren: good player, not a real right back, shite in concentration and decisions
Chygrinsky: really interesting, not a real right back, expensive and too slow
Thiago Silva: expansive, not a real rb
Sagna: expansive and 28 yo
Mancienne: good youngster, but too shite in bravery, and determination
Nordtveit: I could convert him as a rb, but he is expansive, too slow and shite in balance
Ivanovic: Expansive, a bit slow and injury prone
Sergio Ramos: Expansive, I can't spend 70 million for a right back
Ramires: Superb pace, but nothing more
Rafael: I sold him, too average at 360°
Beck not good enough

Brown (31), O'Shea (30), I have to sign a rb, but I don't like anybody in that list

Lovren and Chygrinsky would be the less worse
 
Fabio, convert him into a right back.

Trust me :D

Too short, on the right I have need of a physically (and primarily tall) player. Have to be a great defender first of all, and for this Brown is one of the most important player for me. O'Shea plays well too, for that reason, he is unbeatable in the air and he intercepts many balls defensively, it's fundamental to keep the control of the game and during free kicks, corners

Right back, central defenders, central midfielders, right winger in a my team have to be psychically strong and good in the air

With that structure I have always the control of the game, when I tried different combinations didn't work well

I signed Breno, at the moment he is not at the same level of Evans, but in my team he works better because he is more strong physically and good in the air than Evans

Cathcart is the revelation for me, terrible improvement under Ferdinand and Chiellini, exceptional in the air, Mr reliability

 
Is it really wrong of me to take a job at a bigger club, but just before I leave, give all the players I want at my new club minimum fee release clauses? :nervous:

I remember i did this in an online game once with my mate. He was furious, because, i was moving from Spurs to United, and i was basically adding my best players (there quite alot) with the Uniteds best players for nothing.

I'd say a cheating, but technically it's just a flaw in the game
 
Decided to do a complete u-turn and give my 8 season long, youth focused United game a break and start a new game as City for a bit of good clean fun.

My team is already rediculous (God bless the 48 month payments.)

GK: Given/Hart
DR: Maicon/Richards
DL: Bale/Bridge
DC: Toure/Shawcross
DC: Chiellini/Lescott
DM: De Jong/Rodwell
MC: Gerrard/Milner/Rodwell
MC: Rodwell/Milner/Barry
AM: Gourcuff/Gerrard
ST: Torres/Henry
ST: Tevez/Defoe

Despite spending a feck load, i personally think the team has a good balance to it. A lot of British players there too. (Also using a data update, which is why i managed to get rid of players such as Adebeyour and Bellamy.)
 
i'm in a game with city, january 2011 and 2nd in the league, same formation, different team.

Given/Hart (if required)Smithies

Eboué/Zabaleta
Toure/Richards
Chiellini/Cahill
De Ceglie/Bridge

De Jong/Kompany
Sissoko/Rodwell
Barry/Ireland
Gourcuff/KP Boateng

Tevez/Bellamy/Muller(amazing 15 YO regen)
Adebayor/Luis Fabiano/Arnautovic
 
What's with all the utd fans managing City? Just cos Hughes did it doesn't make it okay.

Because it's a game.....

And it's one of the only teams in said game that allow you to spend feck loads of money without consequences.
 
I would never manage City, Chelsea or Liverpool. I would probably manage Arsenal, though.

I'd find it infinitely more "acceptable" to go into the editor and give United no debts and a sugar-daddy than play with City.

If anyone is thinking of doing that, be aware that you have to change something in a text file to get a proper sugar daddy, one that City has but Chelsea doesn't (anymore). I think it's in the folder for the latest patch, in the update folder.