Gaming Football Manager 2009

Jacob, can you explain the PA (potential ability) think? I hesitate to pass definite judgement on you, simply because I wasn't there, but as far as I know Paven is right that PA never changes after the game has started. Now, if Paven really is a cheater himself, he might be making up the 'evidence', and I would be none the wiser.

I'd play with either of you, though. The cheating you've been accused of should be fairly easy to spot. Might I suggest a permanent host, though? "Passing the host around" is never a good idea, and it might lead to situations like this.
 
One thing that do disturb me is that he has yet to confess his cheating after he'd been crying for the FM file to host

I didn't cry to host the file, i purely asked once or twice because i wanted to play during the evenings and not at nights when others were available.
 
I'd play with either of you, though. The cheating you've been accused of should be fairly easy to spot. Might I suggest a permanent host, though? "Passing the host around" is never a good idea, and it might lead to situations like this.

making it one host means that person has to be on all the time, so you could go weeks without playing.

Also, Pavan give it up.
 
So, you still believe that Jacob hasn't cheated? :rolleyes:

Even if he did cheat, none of us noticed and we having a fun time. However when you cam along you disrupted everything and made it un-joyable. This is the main reason as to why you were voted because you just wouldnt let it go and tried to get the game to stop.

Besides as Jacob said we had done four seasons, his sale of James V started it off.
 
I'm with RedDevil.

I'm not arsed if Jacob cheated or not really, it's up to him if he wants to be a bit of a cnut...(Not that i think you did, i honestly did'nt know).

We were all going happily, and you got all retarded about it, disrupting us.

Who gives a shite...
 
Even if he did cheat, none of us noticed and we having a fun time. However when you cam along you disrupted everything and made it un-joyable. This is the main reason as to why you were voted because you just wouldnt let it go and tried to get the game to stop.

Besides as Jacob said we had done four seasons, his sale of James V started it off.

His sale of anyone wouldn't have started miracoulausly changing PA's of players that play for Everton.

And has it ever come to mind that season in season out he had been winning trophies and be in the Top 4 every season and yet all the rest of you guys fight for relegation and end up mid table? It is beacuse he had been cheating Reddevil and just realise it atleast now. I have proven it about three times already and yet you still disbelieve me.
 
His sale of anyone wouldn't have started miracoulausly changing PA's of players that play for Everton.

And has it ever come to mind that season in season out he had been winning trophies and be in the Top 4 every season and yet all the rest of you guys fight for relegation and end up mid table? It is beacuse he had been cheating Reddevil and just realise it atleast now. I have proven it about three times already and yet you still disbelieve me.

Err, I was trophyless the first 2 seasons ffs. Dan finished 5th or 6th with Sunderland! You are clueless.
 
His sale of anyone wouldn't have started miracoulausly changing PA's of players that play for Everton.

And has it ever come to mind that season in season out he had been winning trophies and be in the Top 4 every season and yet all the rest of you guys fight for relegation and end up mid table? It is beacuse he had been cheating Reddevil and just realise it atleast now. I have proven it about three times already and yet you still disbelieve me.

I didnt know you were in it from the start. took him atleast two seasons to get in the top 4 and Everton are a strong team as it is who are challenging for the top4 every season in real life. we were all fighting for relegation? I had a great first season, got Uefa cup as did a few others, season after that I got relegated I think...but also won the FA Cup so that cancels that out.

And again, no one cares if he cheated as Heap has pointed out the only person it realy efects is the cheater himself as they havn't realy achieved anything. Now, just stop the moaning.
 
Surely there is a 2008 thread for this?

Is there a demo planned for 09 or not?
 
Yeah does seem abit late, I probably wont bother with the demo anyway buying FM every year is almost a given for any budding muppet.
 
I already pre-ordered it on Steam. And as far as I know, there's going to be a demo, and it's going to be released on Steam. It will also be hosted by conventional means, of course.
 
The demos usually come out at the end of the previous month. So in the last two years, for example, where it's come out in October then the demo has come out on the 30th September. So wait for Halloween, since it'll probably be then.
 
I'll probably be there to pick it up early in the morning on Nov 14, I don't think I will play it much though as it seems to be a copy of FM08 plus a lame 3D mode that I won't be using anyway. It took me a year and a half to get adjusted to the 2D mode after I've spent most of my time playing with subtitles, then they changed the skin to a bright one which is honestly very bad (I know it can be changed but I usually stick to the original ones as they're the most perfect in terms of functionality).

I couldn't stand FM08, in fact I've still not played more than two seasons while FM07 keeps taking plenty of my time.
 
I'll probably be there to pick it up early in the morning on Nov 14, I don't think I will play it much though as it seems to be a copy of FM08 plus a lame 3D mode that I won't be using anyway. It took me a year and a half to get adjusted to the 2D mode after I've spent most of my time playing with subtitles, then they changed the skin to a bright one which is honestly very bad (I know it can be changed but I usually stick to the original ones as they're the most perfect in terms of functionality).

I couldn't stand FM08, in fact I've still not played more than two seasons while FM07 keeps taking plenty of my time.

I probably spent more time on FM07, but FM08 is a great game. There were a few bugs, but you don't mention those, and the 8.0.2 patch fixes them. To say it's basically FM08, when you haven't even played it yet, seems dishonest to me. Particularly when that argument can be made with every new CM/FM ("It's the same as last years game, but with data updates").
 
I probably spent more time on FM07, but FM08 is a great game. There were a few bugs, but you don't mention those, and the 8.0.2 patch fixes them. To say it's basically FM08, when you haven't even played it yet, seems dishonest to me. Particularly when that argument can be made with every new CM/FM ("It's the same as last years game, but with data updates").

Well, I have to say I was glad when they only slightly updated 2006 to 2007, because they both seemed perfect to me. 2008 was too much of a revolution due to the bright skin and it really pissed me off.
 
How does an illegal torrent of a free demo look like?
Torrent this:
illegaldemo_album-cover.jpg


In all seriousness, I'm guessing not distributed by them? You're not allowed to redistribute software without permission, even if it's free, after all...
 
Steam seems the easiest way to get it, will probably download it just to ensure its not a total failure.
 
Lots of new small features mentioned these days.
Here are 3 pitch-related ones:

Re-laying - You now have the ability to request to re-lay the pitch to ensure a silky smooth playing
surface. Or you could let it go all JJB.

Pitch degredation - This feature tracks the condition of the pitch during the season (possibly leading to the above).

Fixture postponements - Part of the pitch degradation module, this can lead to cancellations for bad weather and waterlogging (and probably those annual stories of fans travelling from Plymouth to Darlington only to have to turn round and head straight back)
 
About time this was implemented really, previously upgrading under-soil heating etc had little effect.

All I am hoping for really is realistic transfers this year, no more ridiculous prices for players and actually having the ability to sell players easily.
 
About time this was implemented really, previously upgrading under-soil heating etc had little effect.

All I am hoping for really is realistic transfers this year, no more ridiculous prices for players and actually having the ability to sell players easily.
There's tons of stuff in the database that hasn't been implemented yet.

For example, "Winds up opponents" and "Gets crowd going".
 
System Specs - And News On Copy Protection:

Miles Jacobson said:
As you may have heard on the Football Manager podcast on Friday, or seen in the News of the World on Sunday, the demo of Football Manager 2009 will be released next Sunday, November 2nd, just after midnight, giving you a whole Sunday to try out the latest incarnation of the game.

The demo will, as normal, come in different "flavours".

The "vanilla" demo will be the smaller version of the demo file size wise, in that it will have very limited graphical content (no logo's, player pictures, stadiums), English language only, and only English and Scottish leagues available to play, for half a season of ingame time. This saved game will be compatible with the full release of the game, out on November 14th.

The "strawberry" demo will have all graphical content, multiple languages, and 10 leagues to play with (the list of which will be made available later in the week), also for half a season of ingame time, and saved games will also be compatible with the full release of the game, out on November 14th.

The "vanilla" demo will be available exclusively from the News of the World's website as a download file. We will be linking to the News of the World's page directly from the front page at www.sigames.com, and from the forums, as soon as the file is live.

There will be 3 ways to get the "strawberry" demo.

The first of these will be via STEAM. For those that are unaware of STEAM, it's a digital platform made by Valve Software (the developers beind the Half Life series, the Counter Strike series, Portal, and many more). They have super fast bandwidth, and it is by far and away our recommended way to get the "strawberry" version of the Football Manager 2009 demo.

STEAM will also be one of the ways to be able to authenticate your retail version of Football Manager 2009 on it's release, and our preferred route of patching, as patching through STEAM is automatic. You can download the STEAM client from http://store.steampowered.com/ and can also pre-order Football Manager 2009 from the site to be able to play it at 9am UK time on the day of release.
The "strawberry" demo will also be available as a torrent download for those who are aware of this techonology, and as a download with bandwidth provided by GameShadow, although these are likely to appear shortly after the demo becomes available on STEAM, as we will be uploading to STEAM first.

I am also now able to confirm the specs required to play Football Manager 2009.
Please note that these specs are for the machines that we are offering technical support on - the game will work with other graphics cards, and on other spec machines, but as we are not offering technical support, we cannot list these on the system spec.
If your spec is lower than the minimum spec below, it is best to download the demo and try it on your machine, as the spec for the demo is the same as the full game.
Please note that if your PC graphics card is not capable of playing the game with the 3d match engine, it will default to the 2d view from previous FM releases, but the game will still run.

As was mentioned earlier in the year, I can confirm that the game will be released as a DVD Rom this year, rather than a CD. If you do not have a DVD drive, you are still able to purchase the game, but will have to do so via STEAM.

Mac System requirements
The game is currently only being supported on Intel Mac's only, and the minimum requirements are - OSX 10.5.5, Nvidia Geforce 7300 / ATI X1600 Radeon. 1GB RAM.

PC System Requirements
OS - Windows Vista or XP
Processor Speed - Vista - 2.0GHz, XP - 1.4GHz Memory - Vista - 1GB, XP - 512MB Videocard - 128MB Nvidia FX 5900 Ultra, ATI Radeon 9800, Intel 82915G/82910GL or greater.

Personally, I would recommend more RAM than the minimum listed above.

Now, there's also been a lot of talk on the forums about copy protection, and how we are planning to handle it this year, particularly in light of recent press with certain other titles and Securom, which we have used in the past.

We have followed those stories closely, but already had our plan in place for this year, and are happy with the choices that we have made.

I am therefore happy to be able to announce today that, for the first time in the Football Manager series since we started making the game, you will not require the disc to be in the drive each time you start the game if you are playing on the PC! Instead, you will need to authenticate your game.

This can be done in 3 different ways.

The first is via STEAM, as mentioned above. By authenticating through STEAM, you will automatically receive patches as soon as they become available. The second is a simple online transaction, which will take less than 30 seconds. The third, for people who are not online, is via telephone registration, with local call numbers in each country where we release the game, and this will take about 5 minutes to complete from our experience in testing.

We highly recommend the online authentication processes, as they are quick and easy.

Despite the license agreement that comes with the game stating that you can only install on one machine, we are well aware that many people like to play the game on personal laptops, as well as desktops, and our licenses for Football Manager 2009 will work in a very similar way to ITunes.

This means that you will get 5 licenses for personal use, so you can play the game on up to 5 computers as long as you own them, and the owner of the game is the person playing on said machines. If you uninstall the game on one of the PC's you have the game installed on, you get that "seat" back.

As an example, say you have installed the machine on your work laptop, your work PC, your home PC and your home laptop. You would then have used up 4 out of your 5 uses of the game. Your home desktop has some problems, so you decide to re-install windows on it. As long as you uninstall the game from that machine first, you will get that license back, and when you re-install, will still only be using 4 of your 5 installs.

Please note that the license when you purchase the game is explicit that you are only allowed to use the game for your own personal use.

Also please note that on uninstallation of the game, everything is removed from your machine, including all remnants of the copy protection system which we are using, which was a bugbear of many of the other systems available on the market.

MAC users will still have the same protection system as with other years, although we are hopeful that this will change in the coming years when someone comes up with a similar system for MAC's.

So, what we've aimed for, and have hopefully succeeded on, is a system whereby the legitmate purchaser of the game will notice the copy protection even less than in previous years.
 
yup. ill go back to doing what i did when they 1st got the 2d view in.

thats right.

im going back to the fecking text.