I'm doing too well with Fulham, the game has engaged it's usual counter measure/cheat - injuries...
Gaming Football Manager 2009
- Thread starter Red Pavan
- Start date
I quit,
Too much bullshit with this game to even enjoy it... 3 seasons in and i'm through with it.
Back to 2008 I go
Too much bullshit with this game to even enjoy it... 3 seasons in and i'm through with it.
Back to 2008 I go
Care to elaborate?
The cheating is coming out now, I was doing too well. Now I'm getting fecking ridiculous injuries and bullshit goals scored against me. Alan Smith, who was 'lacking match fitness' scored a first time 30 yarded from a tight angle into the near top corner. Alan Smith. Flair-7, Long shots-11, lacking match fitness.
Shit like that !
Worst one so far was picking up 6 injuries in a match, and got a red card for a headbutt, ended the game with minimum personnel
My Cambridge United team with Federico Macheda, Davide Petrucci, Marco Pelosi, Ritchie De Laet, Antonio Bryan, Floribert N'Galula & Andrea Mutombo as some of the star players, is tearing up all the opposition in League Two.
Got 2nd in the PL with Reading in 2017/18, 3 points behind Arsenal. Head to head: 3-3 at home and lost 1-2 away. I sold Jovetic to them 5 seasons ago and he scored the vital goals home and away. fecking cnut
Surprise surprise, up came my 6monthly pasting of Arsenal and it was duly delivered.
2-1 up with 15mins to go, lost 4-2.
feck off.
And i STILL can't get both strikers to play well. Seriously fecking me off.
2-1 up with 15mins to go, lost 4-2.
feck off.
And i STILL can't get both strikers to play well. Seriously fecking me off.
Bit of a coincidence that this happens to you most of all? At least, that's what you'd think from reading this thread, half of your posts are complaining about cheating.
The game doesn't cheat. It just doesn't. I'm sure you've been lucky as well, it's just that you don't think about that when you get the odd screamer in. Personally, I went 3 difficult 1-0 wins in a row where I was absolutely battered most of it, but managed to nick one.
I abandoned any formaton with 2 strikers
Yeah play an attacking midfielder behind the striker instead, works better
Tried that but my AM always seems to do shite too.
Besides, i like buying strikers so i really want to find a way of making 2 work
Tried that but my AM always seems to do shite too.
Besides, i like buying strikers so i really want to find a way of making 2 work
Who are your strikers? Surely one of them has some AMC attributes worthy of a re-train
It's entirely possible to make two strikers work. Obviously they aren't necessarily both going to score 30 goals a season, but it works alright. I simply use the old fast-ish striker and target-ish striker. The first striker with a somewhat higher mentality than the second, and often with a higher forward runs as well (for the first).
Ha. It fecking does cheat, by the fecking bucket load. I've seen players with 1 for 1st touch do a spinning control and blast the ball in in the last minute. I've seen players with 1 for finishing score a beautifully placed finished from 12 yards to win a game in the last minute. I've seen players with 1 for longs shots score 40 yard screamers, I've seen players with with less than 5 for free kicks score two amazing free kicks a game agaisnt me to level the scores against the odds. See the pattern? These are regular things. I've seen all the bollocks this game creates, so have all my friends and everyone I know that's played it. Quite often, when the game decides it doesn't want you to win a match, it cheats, like making Alan Smith score an impossibly amazing 25 yard goal from a ridiculous angle when he hadn't played a game all season. Plus his stats for that kind of thing should mean he can't do it. As far as not appreciating my own luck goes, bollocks. I've played this fecking game for years, I know how it works and what it does. I've won a league title with 2 last minute goals before, but that's about as lucky as I get. The bullshit that they dish out FAR out weighs the general luck I or indeed any real life team gets from game to game.
There's no two ways about it. The game simply doesn't cheat. Am I supposed to accept your anecdotal "evidence"? This accusation has been put to the test several times, and the end result is that there's no cheating. It plays by the same rules.
My guess is that you just haven't figured out how your tactics work properly, so that you're prone to make mistakes. That someone like Alan Smith scores a 25 yarder (5 yards off from last post, sure it wasn't really a tap-in?) is a simple fluke. They happen, both in real life and in the game. I've certainly had impossible shots of my own go in, both in real life and the game.
I think you'll find that the AI gets this kind of "luck" against other AI too. Does it cheat against itself? It's simply how the game works. The engine is certainly not perfect, but again, it doesn't cheat.
My guess is that you just haven't figured out how your tactics work properly, so that you're prone to make mistakes. That someone like Alan Smith scores a 25 yarder (5 yards off from last post, sure it wasn't really a tap-in?) is a simple fluke. They happen, both in real life and in the game. I've certainly had impossible shots of my own go in, both in real life and the game.
I think you'll find that the AI gets this kind of "luck" against other AI too. Does it cheat against itself? It's simply how the game works. The engine is certainly not perfect, but again, it doesn't cheat.
I'm siding with spammy. Some of the stuff the game pulls out of its ass is unbelievable.
The underhandedness of the game is annoying me now.
I'm replaying my alst day of the season (turns out autosave didn't work) and no matter what I do it won't let me (8th) beat Carlisle (14th) even though I'm playing at home and have better players.
All my finishers are missing from about a yard out ffs.
I'm replaying my alst day of the season (turns out autosave didn't work) and no matter what I do it won't let me (8th) beat Carlisle (14th) even though I'm playing at home and have better players.
All my finishers are missing from about a yard out ffs.
Finished 6th in the league though, so the team that got 4th qualifies for the Euro Cup instead.
That team is Liverpool
Which is why i've gone back to 2008
I just lost 5-2 away at City, Vagner Love is far too good on this, his stats are much better than Torres and Etoo. Next game City just beat Chelsea 7-0!!!
Beat Tranmere away 3-1 in the FA Cup. fecking sweet. Also Rochdale and I'm through to 3rd round now. Still unbeaten in the league, got like a million clean sheets in a row currently.
Okay is there any way to turn off the news that tells me of irrelevant injuries in under 18 and reserve matches? I find it really annoying.
OK so i finally gave in and have gone with 1 striker and 1 in behind. It's going better but what tips could you give for getting the best out of a lone striker and an AM.
It's amazing that a game that prides itself on realism, can get these stats so wrong.
Players you've never heard off may have the equivalent finishing ability of say a van Nistelrooy. SI shouldn't just put down stats that their researcher gives them.
Try this: Give your AM a free role, much creative freedom, let him run with the ball and try through balls often. Get your striker to make forward runs and run with the ball often
This.
Macheda and Petrucci is scoring shitloads of goals in that type of partnership for my Cambridge team.
Got to love FM.
Yeah.
Thats not the commitment of a real manager!!!
Jesus !
Yes, I'm finding my United game disappointing
I designed a 4-2-3-1 tactic, where the three are 2 wingers and a free role player off the striker. I signed Riquelme to play there. I was delighted he was an instant success there, scoring three times in his first two games. Brilliant. Then I dropped him for a rest, and played Rooney there. Scores twice. Great. Then I played Park Ji Sung there for a League Cup game. Scored twice. Hmm. Virtually no other bugger scores, but whoever plays that position gets shit loads. I'm happy to have created such an effective tactic, but a little more realism wouldn't be amiss
I just played a game against Arsenal at home. Riquelme scored twice playing that position hehe... and just before half time they had a man sent off. The game played out with my complete domination. Then with a minute to go... bang bang... 2-2 final score. Do piss off
It always irritates me that I either barely ever keep a clean sheet, or I keep about 20 on the trot. And of course if there's any danger of a clean sheet, I'll concede a late goal. And that's the surefire sign that whatever I do, I'll drop points the next game, even if I won by a huge margin
I played this game religiously through uni, and even then it had it's problems... I like the new 3D view, but have to say I'm struggling to play it these days
That's true about the AM role - in my first game I played, as United, Anderson (!!!) ended up as top scorer playing in a 4321 christmas tree formation with two attacking mids. Right now as Southend I've signed some Brazilian called Choco who I play there in various formations (5311, 4411, etc) and he is leading scorer.
And the game cheats hidesouly - I was playing Leeds at home a few days ago, and the pundits said I was going to lose hidesouly even though I was playing at home and Leeds were 9th and I was 3rd - take a 2 - 0 lead in the first half, tell the lads not to get complacent at half time, switch to a more defensive style midway through the second half, and then they score 3 times in the last 5 minutes. Two freekicks and one ball that was rolling towards my keeper (the best in the league) and he let roll through his legs.
I also find my tactics go stale after about a month... does the game learn from you? I played midfield diamnod for a bit and dominated a few teams, and then suddenly it wouldn't work, so I played 4411, and then that didn't work after a month, so then I changed to 5 3 1 1 (Sweeper, 2 CBs, 3 Wing Backs, 3 Central Mids, Am and Striker) and that seems to be slowly losing effectiveness...
Has anyone else noticed that everytime your team gets denied a penalty, you always end up not winning the game.
I played the 2000/2001 version before and found that Liverpool ALWAYS scored bucketloads on me no matter what I did. Danny murphy used dominate me so I tried neutralizing him. 2 men on him yet he'd still score. Unbelievable. Same with Crespo at Lazio. And what's with teams demanding twice a players value??
Im going to start with a lower team now After the update i can't find any form with Arsenal, players are too hot and cold and Arshavin wants to leave like weeks after joining no matter what.
time to start in league 2.
time to start in league 2.
I remember this in 2008 but the patch fixed it
One of the biggest faults on this game is the AI 'learning' your tactic. So, in real life, Man Utd change their formation every month do they? It's bollocks, they don't learn anything, it just stops working and your players just start playing like they've got gammy legs. I'm sticking with my faltering 4-4-2 diamond at the moment, but I've had it with milan when I had aguero, pato and benzema up front with kaka just behind and after a while the AI 'learned' how to deal with them. If other teams were really defensive, played formations to counter mine or even just man marked key players, it would be different to just making them play crap.
That's just not true, I'm sorry. If that were the case, I'd almost never win, since penalty shouts getting turned down is probably a daily occurrence (and to be fair is almost as frequent against me).
As for Spammy's complaint about the AI learning the tactic, I'm actually not sure that's still in the game. At least not to the degree it was before. I fully agree that it was a big problem before, but I've played 6 full seasons now (a few different teams), and I've rotated between 3 similar tactics for every team. Basically they were "Defensive, Standard and Attacking" variations of the same tactic, and I played almost every match with standard. That was a well thought out tactic, and I haven't really noticed any lasting slump. There's been dips in form of course, but that's natural.