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Everyone laying out their teams then?

DDG
Alves Moore Blanc Marcelo
Redondo
Keane Riquelme
Best Batistuta Czibor

H. Sanchez
Blokhin Baggio Robben
Veron Verratti
Evra Blind Pique Neal
Lloris

Kaka Martial J. Boateng
 
Let's get the season started. I'm going to win the league!!!
 
@oneniltothearsenal .... definitely no surprise tweaks (a la the Monopoly draft)?

Like "you regret 1-2 choices and want to change them" round? :angel:
He actually was open to that when I had my Francescoli meltdown and the two alternatives I had in mind haven't been picked.

But, after cooling down on those ignorant PES twats, I don't think we should go there. It pisses on those who drafted well with no regrets. Yes mate, this is serious business.
 
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Sjor (A. Ferguson)
1. P. Scholes 2. A. Nesta 3. P. Lahm 4. U. Seeler 5. E. Davids 6. D. Bergkamp 7. D. Beckham 8. N. Vidic 9. B. Schweinsteiger 10. F. Albert 11. E. van der Sar 12. F. Ribery 13. J.P. Sorin 14. H. Larsson 15. J. Giles 16. V. Onopko 17. E. Gray 18. R. Donadoni 19. T. Gemmell 20. D. Petrescu 21. O. Ardiles 22. O.G. Solskjaer 23. Barthez 24. V. Zajec

Adjudicator (B. Robson) 1. L. Kubala 2. T. Henry 3. J. Zanetti 4. Roberto Carlos 5. P. Vieira 6. S. Mazzola 7. R. Carvalho 8. G. Buffon 9. F. Lampard 10. T. Adams 11. D. Simeone 12. M. Essien 13. E. Cambiasso 14. L. Suarez 15. W. Samuel 16. J. Segarra 17. V. Durkovic 18. Juninho Pe. 19. G. Zola 20. L. Koscielny 21. P. Cech 22. P. Van Himst 23. I. Cordoba 24. A. Vidal

BeforeKeaneThereWasRobson (R. Michels) 1. Garrincha 2. Xavi 3. Zidane 4. M. Laudrup 5. A Pirlo 6. P Kluivert 7. R Koeman 8. M Tresor 9. D Irwin 10. M Neuer 11. S Busquets 12. R v Nistelrooy 13. A Cole 14. F Totti 15. X. Alonso 16. Giovanni Ferrari 17. D McGrain 18. A Giresse 19. P Keizer 20. L Bonucci 21. R McFarland 22. R van der Kerkhof 23. D Seaman 24. Tommy Taylor

Mazhar/JB08 (A. Sacchi) 1. M. Platini 2. G. Müller 3. J. Neeskens 4. N. Santos 5. D. Santos 6. D. Law 7. V. Voronin 8. F. Hierro 9. K. Förster 10. S. Effenberg 11. R. Dasayev 12. L. Modric 13. R. Rensenbrink 14. P. Elkjaer 15. Z. Boban 16. S. Lerby 17. A. Haan 18. H. Blankenburg 19. G. Buchwald 20. F. Toldo 21. Marinho 22. V. Beszonov (Bessonov) 23. A. Sastre 24. P. Crerand

2mufc0 (M. Lippi)
1. F. Baresi 2. M. Van Basten 3. R. Gullit 4. P. Nedved 5. J. Stam 6. M. Coluna 7. C. Seedorf 8. Del Piero 9. G. Zambrotta 10. R. Jarni 11. V. Vasovic 12. M. Ballack 13. D. Alaba 14. Maicon 15. T. Cerezo 16. T. Silva 17. W. Zenga 18. R. Pires 19. K. Keegan 20. T. Kroos 21. D. Godin 22. W. Rooney 23. A. Griezmann 24. G. Donnarumma

Gio (G. Trapattoni) 1. L. Matthaus 2. Eusebio 3. Cafu 4. J. Nasazzi 5. J. Kohler 6. L. Monti 7. G. Rivera 8. B. Vukas 9. M. Amoros 10. V. Beara 11. F. Gento 12. D. Da Guia 13. B. Oblak 14. J. Greaves 15. B. Laudrup 16. M. Khurtsilava 17. M. Kempes 18. B. Schuster 19. I. Surjak 20. K. Sesta 21. R. Benetti 22. J. McGrory 23. P. Jennings 24. J. Cesar

antohan (J. Cruyff) 1. Romario 2. F. Rijkaard 3. A. Brehme 4. R. Krol 5. L. Figo 6. W. van Hanegem 7. M. Desailly 8. F. Walter 9. J. Popluhar 10. M. Bossis 11. A. Spencer 12. A. Simonsen 13. G. Signori 14. E. Francescoli 15. L. Enrique 16. J.C.Morales 17. F. Causio 18. G. Popescu 19. A. Carrizo 20. L. Mazurkiewicz 21. M. Andreolo 22. J. M. Bakero 23. J. Haynes 24. Angloma

Invictus/Ecstatic (Ancelotti) 1. F. Puskás 2. E. Figueroa 3. G. Nordahl 4. Suárez M. 5. O. Varela 6. L. Thuram 7. A. Iniesta 8. H. Chumpitaz 9. K. Hamrin 10. D. Zoff 11. P. Littbarski 12. W. Overath 13. K. Deyna 14. A. Demyanenko 15. B. Conti 16. U. Stielike 17. F. Arce 18. Raúl G. 19. R. Gordillo 20. G. Gren 21. T. Häßler 22. F. Binder 23. U. Fillol 24. T. Cubillas

Macern (B. Paisley) 1. Ronaldinho 2. P. Maldini 3. B. Stankovic 4. S. Cervato 5. D. Dean 6. G. Sarosi 7. Z. Boniek 8. D. Mackay 9. C. Ferrara 10. P. Schmeichel 11. W. Nausch 12. P. Pogba 13. E. Butragueno 14. C. Puyol 15. J. Travassos 16. T. Muller 17. G. Gattuso 18. G. Strömberg 19. B. Lennox 20. J. Buzánszky 21. S. Minelli 22. E. Hapgood 23. G. Bruscolotti 24. J. Litmanen

Tuppet (H. Herrera) 1. G. Facchetti 2. J. Bican 3. L. Yashin 4. J. Schiaffino 5. R. Kopa 6. P. Janes 7. G. Hanappi 8. W. Schulz 9. D. Savicevic 10. Pirri 11. N. Lofthouse 12. G. Lorant 13. J. Johnstone 14. G. Bale 15. J. Blum 16. S. Hypia 17. Jorginho 18. R. Jonquet 19. F. Szepan 20. H. Michel 21. I. Zamorano 22. G. Boniperti 23. K. Mbappe 24. E. Maric 25. Amarildo

simonhch (Capello) 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. B. Charlton 3. J. Masopust 4. T. Finney 5. Leonidas 6. R. Ferdinand 7. S. Mihajlovic 8. G. Hagi 9. J. Quincoces 10. G. Banks 11. Neymar 12. S. Ramos 13. G. Weah 14. E. Gerets 15. R. Prosinecki 16. I. Petschovschi 17. D. Stojkovic 18. A Benarrivo 19. Amancio 20. M. Belodedici 21. I. Gudelj 22. S. Eto'o 23. M. Preud'homme 24. A. Recoba 25. B. Ivanovic

Skizzo/joga (Lobanovskyi) 1. F. Beckenbauer 2. V. Mazzola 3. D. Edwards 4. B. Zebec 5. N. Hidegkuti 6. N. Liedholm 7. F.Jusufi 8. Ademir 9. P. Vierchowod 10. O.Kahn 11. A. Pedernera 12. Zito 13. L. Riva 14. A.Tirnanic 15. P. Madeley 16. D. Sekularac 17. H.G. Schwarzenbeck 18. Hans-Jurgen “Dixie” Dorner 19. K. Balakov 20. R.Sensini 21. U.Hoeness 22. J. Ceulemans 23. I. Casillas 24. A. Sanchez 25. J. Papin

P-Nut0712(P. Guardiola) 1. G. Best 2. B. Moore 3. F. Redondo 4. Czibor 5. Batistuta 6. R. Keane 7. R.Baggio 8. Kaka 9. L. Blanc 10. D. Alves 11. Riquelme 12. Marcelo 13. J.Veron 14. Robben 15. O. Blokhin 16. Evra 17. Pique 18. H. Sanchez 19. D. De Gea 20. Dan. Blind 21. P. Neal 22. Verratti 23. Lloris 24. Martial 25. J. Boateng

Igor Drefljak (M. Muñoz) 1. G. Meazza 2. J.M. Moreno 3. M. Sindelar 4. A. Ballarin 5. J. Charles 6. E. Ocwirk 7. V. Maroso 8. R. Zamora 9. N. Franklin 10. M. Milutinovic 11. Zlatko Cajkovski 12. A. Lenstra 13. B.Liddell 14. R. Ayala 15. Y. Toure 16. C. Vieri 17. S. Campbell 18. V. Boskov 19. B. Belin 20. D.Cavem 21. M. Ozil 22. Adriano 23.D. De Rossi 24. Gylmar 25. M. Rigamonti

NM (B. Guttmann) 1. Ronaldo 2. G. Scirea 3. Didi 4. Jairzinho 5. Rivaldo 6. S. Marzolini 7. M. Tardelli 8. R. Giggs 9. C. Gentile 10. P. Shilton 11. T. Burgnich 12. S. Piola 13. B.McNeill 14. D. Deschamps 15. J. Altafini 16. R. Orsi 17. M. Kaltz 18. R. Marche 19. C. Bell 20. P. Ince 21. F. De Boer 22. J.M. Pfaff 23. H. Rahn 24. K. Dalglish 25. H. Gregg

Pillow/altodevil (B Clough) 1. J. Cruyff 2. K-H. Rummenigge 3. H. Stoichkov 4. J. Bozsik 5. F. Cannavaro 6. P. Breitner 7. G. Neville 8. J. Terry 9. Jugovic 10. Shevchenko 11. S. Gerrard 12. E. Hughes 13. M. Peters 14. P. Guardiola 15. G. Strachan 16. J. Carragher 17. L. Küçükandonyadis 18. J. Kelsey 19. M. Tassotti 20. R. Byrne 21. T. Butcher 22. D. Villa 23. P. Cocu 24. Aguero 25. M. Soskic

Moby/Raees (M. Busby) 1. L. Messi 2. Zico 3. P. R. Falcao 4. Rivelino 5. Santamaria 6. S. Kocsis 7. G. Bergomi 8. K-H Schnellinger 9. G. Souness 10. P. McGrath 11. Planicka 12. O. Ruggeri 13. R. Perfumo 14. D. Blanchflower 15. A. Di Livio 16. J. Fontaine 17. F. Bene 18. O. Sivori 19. S. Pluskal 20. C. Panucci 21. O. Bergmark 22. N. Dobrin 23. M. Overmars 24. B. Trautmann 25. D. Drogba

Red Tiger/Enigma (E. Happel) 1. Pelé 2. D. Passarella 3. B. Wright 4. D. Dzajic 5. Vogts 6. G. Netzer 7. Tostão 8. B. Robson 9. B. Lizarazu 10. S.Maier 11. Tigana 12. Lato 13. Rui Costa 14. Rattin 15. J.A. Camacho 16. A. Möller 17. J. Joya 18. Lucio 19. S. Reuter 20. S. Bobek 21. Germano 22. R. Dzodzuashvili 23. Bebeto 24. I. Victor 25. G. Lentini

spontaneus1 (O. Hitzfeld) 1. D. Maradona 2. M. Sammer 3. Carlos Alberto 4. A. Shearer 5. Gerson 6. G. Zsengeller 7. J. L. Andrade 8. A. Cabrini 9. A. Hansen 10. N. Southall 11. Costacurta 12. B. Bremner 13. G. Chillieni 14. J. Klinsmann 15. V.R Andrade 16. W. Suurbier 17. M. Hughes 18. E. Cantona 19. E. Happel 20. D. Luiz 21. J. Baxter 22. R. Sanches 23. L. Shaw 24. D. Silva 25. Bebe

harms (Udo Lattek) 1. A. Di Stefano 2. S. Matthews 3. A. Picchi 4. Zizinho 5. Shesternyov 6. A. Erico 7. I. Netto 8. L. Júnior 9. C. Makelele 10. Grosics 11. Armfield 12. H. Scarone 13. R. Bonhof 14. H-P Briegel 15. Tonono 16. V. Bobrov 17. C Jones 18. H.Schumacher 19. A. Segato 20. E. Basora 21. E. Monzeglio 22. H. Szymaniak 23. R. Bochini 24. V. Ivanov 25. M. Ramos

@Macern

Quality pick tuppet. I was considering him but decided on Lentini instead.
 
Just to update on what to expect for updates in next few days.

Everyone please finish their club profiles.

I am actually going to edit the Short Name for club to just the Redcafe profile name for my own ease of use.

Then I will run several tests to make sure I have the database set up correctly. I also will be out of town this weekend so please don't expect first update until Mon-Wed of next week (depending on how the tests go)

Then I will be updating frequently as I have some time.

Cheers for doing this in your own time with no financial benefits.

I'll vote for you as poster of the Year!
 
FIRST XI / HOME TEAM
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RESERVE / AWAY TEAM
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CUP TEAM
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Considering I have the ideal manager to blood youth products I've done a poor job of getting teenagers :sad:

WHAT CRUYFF WILL PROBABLY PLAY :LOL:

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Antohan going all out with the teams.


The more I look at mine the more I notice the amount of absolute kids I'm going to have compared to pretty much everyone else.

EDIT: Out of 25 picks 10 are still playing today.
 
He actually was open to that when I had my Francescoli meltdown and the two alternatives I had in mind haven't been picked.

But, after cooling down on those ignorant PES twats, I don't think we should go there. It pisses on those who drafted well with no regrets. Yes mate, this is serious business.
Guess so....:(. I had a main list but had scribbled down a few more separately .... could do without most but would have liked Luigi Meroni.
 
We'll see NM. We'll see...

I will put my neck out and say that me and Enigma are going to finish in the top 4. No doubt.

Ronaldo to score 40 goals!

Antohan going all out with the teams.


The more I look at mine the more I notice the amount of absolute kids I'm going to have compared to pretty much everyone else.

EDIT: Out of 25 picks 10 are still playing today.

I'm the opposite. my only "recent" player is Giggs and he is retired!
 
Ronaldo to score 40 goals!



I'm the opposite. my only "recent" player is Giggs and he is retired!

Most teams are. Will be weird seeing Giggs 2 years or so older than Martial. I think I'm gunna get caught out really but we'll see how it goes.
 
Zamora
Gylmar

Ballarin - Charles - Franklin - Maroso
Belin - Ayala - Campbell - Cavem

Ocwirk - Cajkowski
Toure - Boskov

Milutinovic - Moreno - Meazza
Lnestra - Ozil - Liddel

Sindelar
Vieri

Rigamonti - De Rossi - Adriano
As my attacking players are all pretty much natural in 2-4 positions, I have no idea whats gonna happen, but I hope the above does :lol:
 
The odds for the league title should be quite interesting. Along with player valuations when the game starts. I'll be honest I'm mightily excited for this.
 
@harms sorry mate can you repick Ivanov ?

He is not in database and I can't even find who you were trying to pick on Google/PESSTATS

If you can send me a link to PESSTATS of this one in next 10 hours I can remake otherwise please repick
 
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FIRST XI / HOME TEAM
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RESERVE / AWAY TEAM
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CUP TEAM
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Considering I have the ideal manager to blood youth products I've done a poor job of getting teenagers :sad:


WHAT CRUYFF WILL PROBABLY PLAY :LOL:

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I can already tell you with 97% certainty that Cruijff will start Spencer over the younger Romario first season
 
I can already tell you with 97% certainty that Cruijff will start Spencer over the younger Romario first season
Yeah, I'd expect that. The Cruyff exercise was more along the lines of "over the 8 seasons" or "with everyone in peak form". It looks very much a Cruyff side except that the plan was someone like Blanchflower instead of Haynes.
 
Yeah, I'd expect that. The Cruyff exercise was more along the lines of "over the 8 seasons" or "with everyone in peak form". It looks very much a Cruyff side except that the plan was someone like Blanchflower instead of Haynes.

I don't know this one for certain but I'd bet Cruyff starts van Hanegem + Bakero/Rijkaard in your midfield. I also have a feeling its your fav Lucho who gets the short end on playing time ;)
 
Bakero at CM and not behind the striker? Next to van Hanegem in a two? Either their stats are wrong or those of my other midfielders :nervous:

FM's AI in general will start more offensive players in midfield than you might expect. Its not about stats on that but the overall FM AI. You will see the AI errr in that direction on every player no matter who you pick as manager. Its just an odd FM slight bias to offensive play, probably to make video games more "exciting"

And mate, Fritz Walter is your guaranteed AMC for the first season. He is in his prime and (I think) he might even be your usual captain. Really one of the best picks of the draft that I didn't expect, Walter was.
 
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The odds for the league title should be quite interesting. Along with player valuations when the game starts. I'll be honest I'm mightily excited for this.

I'm excited too. I'm going to transfer 5-6 unpicked Europeans to Corinthians to play with Socrates and hopefully challenge you lot in the Intercontinel Cup!
 
BTW @oneniltothearsenal you should have a Corinthians side with Socrates.

Off the top of my head I nominate the following leftovers I had eyes on for a larger squad (or would have liked to try out in a different style) and would be fun to see how they do:

- Dario Pereyra CB
- Luis Pereira CB
- Rinus Israel SW
- Víctor Hugo Diogo RB
- Giuseppe Furino DM (my marginal man, last to get cut off)
- César Cueto CM/AM
- Isabelino Gradín LW
- Canhoteiro LW
- Pedro Rocha AM/#10
- Max Morlock AM/CF
- Pedro Petrone CF

And of course the one I didn't dare try but was sure must be a beast given your recent manlove: Faas Wilkes
 
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BTW @oneniltothearsenal you should have a Corinthians side with Socrates.

Off the top of my head I nominate the following leftovers I had eyes on for a larger squad (or would have liked to try out in a different style) and would be fun to see how they do:



And of course the one I didn't dare try but was sure must be a beast given your recent manlove: Faas Wilkes


WAIT The draft isn't over please delete these for now ! :lol:

You already named a few I was hoping would slip through and I don't want anyone to get ideas ;)
 
FM's AI in general will start more offensive players in midfield than you might expect. Its not about stats on that but the overall FM AI. You will see the AI errr in that direction on every player no matter who you pick as manager. Its just an odd FM slight bias to offensive play, probably to make video games more "exciting"

And mate, Fritz Walter is your guaranteed AMC for the first season. He is in his prime and (I think) he might even be your usual captain. Really one of the best picks of the draft that I didn't expect, Walter was.
That was the logic behind the pick. Good to hear the DB guy matches the received wisdom in terms of him fitting the blueprint.
 
I'm excited too. I'm going to transfer 5-6 unpicked Europeans to Corinthians to play with Socrates and hopefully challenge you lot in the Intercontinel Cup!

Yeach some of the other players knocking about should be good to keep tabs on. Ole at United with most of their strikers gone should be a good one.
 
Yeach some of the other players knocking about should be good to keep tabs on. Ole at United with most of their strikers gone should be a good one.

Well there are no top English teams other than your lot, I basically replaced England teams with the draft :devil:
 
And mate, Fritz Walter is your guaranteed AMC for the first season. He is in his prime and (I think) he might even be your usual captain. Really one of the best picks of the draft that I didn't expect, Walter was.
Yeah, he is like Di Stefano level good; one of those whom I found too overrated to pick for my team (and, well, the natural Di S. overlap)
 
Colours:
Go for a black and white Juve style set up.

Rivals:

This has to be a Serie A bloodbath. Who better than Arrigo Sacchi, arch nemesis of Trap as his rather under-rated Inter side duelled with Milan and Napoli for title glory in the late 1980s? Following on from the shoe salesman, it has to be Fabio Capello landing on Sacchi's golden egg and edging Trap's Juve out twice in three years in the early 1990s. And to complete the trio it has to be Marcelo Lippi, the man who successfully replaced Trap at both Juventus in 1994 and then Italy in 2004, and also jostled with Trap's lovely Fiorentina outfit in the late 1990s.

Sacchi - mazhar/jb08
Capello - simonhch
Lippi - 2mufc0

@oneniltothearsenal
 
FIRST TEAM:

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I wouldn't be surprised if Gento becomes Trap's left wing-back.

RESERVE TEAM:


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TEAM WHEN TRAP GETS SACKED AND REPLACED BY A 4-2-3-1 BOT:

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Antohan going all out with the teams.


The more I look at mine the more I notice the amount of absolute kids I'm going to have compared to pretty much everyone else.

EDIT: Out of 25 picks 10 are still playing today.

It may not help Year 1, but should you and your manager survive that in the top flight/in charge it could work really well.

My youngest player must be Figo, who is probably 20. Problem is all 25 will be at an age when they need to play to develop properly and will likely want out if they aren't getting the first team football they need. I'd expect the teenagers will develop better with Youth team football and occasional cup appearances for a couple of years while that may not be good enough to get the likes of Figo and Romario to fulfill their potential at the stage they are in.

Bottomline though is I had zero interest in the more recent players we watch regularly, I liked the notion of bringing players back from their graves/retirement, particularly those rarely ever featured/rated in drafts.