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Should I allow Managers/Clubs to make transfer every summer or should I lock in the teams drafted fo


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Name: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch City
Short name: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
Six Letter Name: LLanfair
Nickname: Flexicution

Primary kit/logo color: Blue
Secondary color: Gold

Supporter Profile:
Loyalty: 20
Passion: 20
Patience: 20
Affluence: 20
Temperament: 10

Rivals:
Invictus/Ecstatic
Pnut
2mufc0
Igor Drefljak
Spontaneus1
 
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@oneniltothearsenal please remove club names from general info and just use names from the Caf because its going to be impossible to follow if everyone has a random name.

As for supporter profile, is there a overall limit for this stats so we dont have 20 on everything?
 
@oneniltothearsenal

Name: Punt with Poise FC
Short name: Precision
Six Letter Name: POSERS
Nickname: Vintage

Primary kit/logo color: Purple
Secondary color: Gold

Supporter Profile:
Loyalty: 20
Passion: 20
Patience: 17
Affluence: 20
Temperament: 20

Rivals:
None
 
Yeah, I wouldn't mind a 70/80 total limit on the fan attributes.
 
ok, expressed myself poorly, rather then highest number possible everyone will use best number possible.
I don't think there's a 'best' number when it comes to passion, patience, temperament and perhaps affluence as well. Also it doesn't really affect the simulation that much. Kit colors are also "pointless" but it's nice to customize the club a bit.
 
ok, expressed myself poorly, rather then highest number possible everyone will use best number possible.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind a 70/80 total limit on the fan attributes.

There's not necessarily any benefit to having all 20s in supporter stats and it might even be a negative ( it might your supporters very picky). Its more a flavor thing than anything else from what I've seen
 
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What's the deal with all that? How many names does one have? Would be useful to see an example one.

What's the basis for supporter profile? 1-20? Doesn't that clearly influence atmosphere, players, revenue and thus transfer kitty?

Would be best to keep them all the same IMO.
 
There's not necessarily any benefit to having all 20s in supporter stats and it might even be a negative ( it might your supporters very picky). Its more a flavor thing than anything else from what I've seen
I think all of the areas are beneficial bar patience which is more relevant case-by-case. It probably just makes a small difference but it wouldn't be there if it didn't.
 
What's the deal with all that? How many names does one have? Would be useful to see an example one.

What's the basis for supporter profile? 1-20? Doesn't that clearly influence atmosphere, players, revenue and thus transfer kitty?

Would be best to keep them all the same IMO.
An example:

Name: Manchester United
Short name: Man Utd
Six Letter Name: MUFC
Nickname: The Red Devils

The basis is 1-20 yes. It doesn't affect the game very much.
 
@oneniltothearsenal

Name: Sjor Bepo
Short name: Sjor Bepo
Six Letter Name: FcBepo
Nickname: Little Spearings

Primary kit/logo color: Light Blue
Secondary color: Black

Supporter Profile:
Loyalty: 20
Passion: 20
Patience: 17
Affluence: 1
Temperament: 17

Rivals:
Invictus/Ecstatic
Skizzo/Joga
Harms
Edgar/altodevil
tiger/enigma
 
Is 20 always a good thing? How does temperament work? Isn't 20 a bit of a hothead?
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Temperament

Interesting one this. Until I drew up the chart of examples, I had assumed that a high temperament rating would mean that you fans had a good temperament, ie were less likely to start a fight over a spilt pint outside the ground. However, it's clearly the other way round. Millwall fans have been given a rating of three with Chelsea on five. Oh dear. Well, they do have a certain reputation. Barcelona and Arsenal on the other hand appear to have fans who are quite happy to buy a round of drinks for the opposition fans after the game. Bravo!

So, a low rating means that your fans might go on a rampage after a defeat, causing possible fines or fan bans for the club. If your fans carry cards with the name of your club on followed by the word "headhunters", then you may want to put a rating of under five in.
 
Is 20 always a good thing? How does temperament work? Isn't 20 a bit of a hothead?

I always thought that the most stable supporters would have all 10s across.

I might be wrong but I thought that 1 and 20 were extremes for supporters and more volatile so not always good or bad whereas with all 10 the supporters never really riot
 
Henri Michel

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Sjor (A. Ferguson)
1. P. Scholes 2. A. Nesta 3. P. Lahm 4. U. Seeler 5. E. Davids 6. D. Bergkamp 7. D. Beckham 8. N. Vidic 9. B. Schweinsteiger 10. F. Albert 11. E. van der Sar 12. F. Ribery 13. J.P. Sorin 14. H. Larsson 15. J. Giles 16. V. Onopko 17. E. Gray 18. R. Donadoni 19. T. Gemmell 20. R. da Silva

Adjudicator (B. Robson) 1. L. Kubala 2. T. Henry 3. J. Zanetti 4. Roberto Carlos 5. P. Vieira 6. S. Mazzola 7. R. Carvalho 8. G. Buffon 9. F. Lampard 10. T. Adams 11. D. Simeone 12. M. Essien 13. E. Cambiasso 14. L. Suarez 15. W. Samuel 16. J. Segarra 17. V. Durkovic 18. Juninho Pe. 19. G. Zola 20. L. Koscielny

BeforeKeaneThereWasRobson (R. Michels) 1. Garrincha 2. Xavi 3. Zidane 4. M. Laudrup 5. A Pirlo 6. P Kluivert 7. R Koeman 8. M Tresor 9. D Irwin 10. M Neuer 11. S Busquets 12. R v Nistelrooy 13. A Cole 14. F Totti 15. X. Alonso 16. Giovanni Ferrari 17. D McGrain 18. A Giresse 19. P Keizer 20. L Bonucci

Mazhar/JB08 (A. Sacchi) 1. M. Platini 2. G. Müller 3. J. Neeskens 4. N. Santos 5. D. Santos 6. D. Law 7. V. Voronin 8. F. Hierro 9. K. Förster 10. S. Effenberg 11. R. Dasayev 12. L. Modric 13. R. Rensenbrink 14. P. Elkjaer 15. Z. Boban 16. S. Lerby 17. A. Haan 18. H. Blankenburg 19. G. Buchwald 20. F. Toldo

2mufc0 (M. Lippi)
1. F. Baresi 2. M. Van Basten 3. R. Gullit 4. P. Nedved 5. J. Stam 6. M. Coluna 7. C. Seedorf 8. Del Piero 9. G. Zambrotta 10. R. Jarni 11. V. Vasovic 12. M. Ballack 13. D. Alaba 14. Maicon 15. T. Cerezo 16. T. Silva 17. W. Zenga 18. R. Pires 19. K. Keegan 20. T. Kroos

Gio (G. Trapattoni) 1. L. Matthaus 2. Eusebio 3. Cafu 4. J. Nasazzi 5. J. Kohler 6. L. Monti 7. G. Rivera 8. B. Vukas 9. M. Amoros 10. V. Beara 11. F. Gento 12. D. Da Guia 13. B. Oblak 14. J. Greaves 15. B. Laudrup 16. M. Khurtsilava 17. M. Kempes 18. B. Schuster 19. I. Surjak 20. K. Sesta

antohan (J. Cruyff) 1. Romario 2. F. Rijkaard 3. A. Brehme 4. R. Krol 5. L. Figo 6. W. van Hanegem 7. M. Desailly 8. F. Walter 9. J. Popluhar 10. M. Bossis 11. A. Spencer 12. A. Simonsen 13. G. Signori 14. E. Francescoli 15. L. Enrique 16. J.C.Morales 17. F. Causio 18. G. Popescu 19. A. Carrizo 20. L. Mazurkiewicz

Invictus/Ecstatic (Ancelotti) 1. F. Puskás 2. E. Figueroa 3. G. Nordahl 4. Suárez M. 5. O. Varela 6. L. Thuram 7. A. Iniesta 8. H. Chumpitaz 9. K. Hamrin 10. D. Zoff 11. P. Littbarski 12. W. Overath 13. K. Deyna 14. A. Demyanenko 15. B. Conti 16. U. Stielike 17. F. Arce 18. Raúl G. 19. R. Gordillo 20. Gunnar Gren

Macern (B. Paisley) 1. Ronaldinho 2. P. Maldini 3. B. Stankovic 4. S. Cervato 5. D. Dean 6. G. Sarosi 7. Z. Boniek 8. D. Mackay 9. C. Ferrara 10. P. Schmeichel 11. W. Nausch 12. P. Pogba 13. E. Butragueno 14. C. Puyol 15. J. Travassos 16. T. Muller 17. G. Gattuso 18. G. Strömberg 19. B. Lennox 20.
J. Buzánszky

Tuppet (H. Herrera) 1. G. Facchetti 2. J. Bican 3. L. Yashin 4. J. Schiaffino 5. R. Kopa 6. P. Janes 7. G. Hanappi 8. W. Schulz 9. D. Savicevic 10. Pirri 11. N. Lofthouse 12. G. Lorant 13. J. Johnstone 14. G. Bale 15. J. Blum 16. S. Hypia 17. Jorginho 18. R. Jonquet 19. F. Szepan 20. H. Michel

simonhch (Capello) 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. B. Charlton 3. J. Masopust 4. T. Finney 5. Leonidas 6. R. Ferdinand 7. S. Mihajlovic 8. G. Hagi 9. J. Quincoces 10. G. Banks 11. Neymar 12. S. Ramos 13. G. Weah 14. E. Gerets 15. R. Prosinecki 16. I. Petschovschi 17. D. Stojkovic 18. A Benarrivo 19. Amancio

Skizzo/joga (Lobanovskyi) 1. F. Beckenbauer 2. V. Mazzola 3. D. Edwards 4. B. Zebec 5. N. Hidegkuti 6. N. Liedholm 7. F.Jusufi 8. Ademir 9. P. Vierchowod 10. O.Kahn 11. A. Pedernera 12. Zito 13. L. Riva 14. A.Tirnanic 15. P. Madeley 16. D. Sekularac 17. H.G. Schwarzenbeck 18. Hans-Jurgen “Dixie” Dorner 19. K. Balakov

P-Nut0712(P. Guardiola) 1. G. Best 2. B. Moore 3. F. Redondo 4. Czibor 5. Batistuta 6. R. Keane 7. R.Baggio 8. Kaka 9. L. Blanc 10. D. Alves 11. Riquelme 12. Marcelo 13. J.Veron 14. Robben 15. O. Blokhin 16. Evra 17. Pique 18. H. Sanchez 19. D. De Gea

Igor Drefljak (M. Muñoz) 1. G. Meazza 2. J.M. Moreno 3. M. Sindelar 4. A. Ballarin 5. J. Charles 6. E. Ocwirk 7. V. Maroso 8. R. Zamora 9. N. Franklin 10. M. Milutinovic 11. Zlatko Cajkovski 12. A. Lenstra 13. B.Liddell 14. R. Ayala 15. Y. Toure 16. C. Vieri 17. S. Campbell 18. V. Boskov 19. B. Belin

NM (B. Guttmann) 1. Ronaldo 2. G. Scirea 3. Didi 4. Jairzinho 5. Rivaldo 6. S. Marzolini 7. M. Tardelli 8. R. Giggs 9. C. Gentile 10. P. Shilton 11. T. Burgnich 12. S. Piola 13. B.McNeill 14. D. Deschamps 15. J. Altafini 16. R. Orsi 17. M. Kaltz 18. R. Marche 19. C. Bell

Pillow/altodevil (B Clough) 1. J. Cruyff 2. K-H. Rummenigge 3. H. Stoichkov 4. J. Bozsik 5. F. Cannavaro 6. P. Breitner 7. G. Neville 8. J. Terry 9. Jugovic 10. Shevchenko 11. S. Gerrard 12. E. Hughes 13. M. Peters 14. P. Guardiola 15. G. Strachan 16. J. Carragher 17. L. Küçükandonyadis 18. J. Kelsey 19. M. Tassotti

Moby/Raees (M. Busby) 1. L. Messi 2. Zico 3. P. R. Falcao 4. Rivelino 5. Santamaria 6. S. Kocsis 7. G. Bergomi 8. K-H Schnellinger 9. G. Souness 10. P. McGrath 11. Planicka 12. O. Ruggeri 13. R. Perfumo 14. D. Blanchflower 15. A. Di Livio 16. J. Fontaine 17. F. Bene 18. O. Sivori 19. S. Pluskal

Red Tiger/Enigma (E. Happel) 1. Pelé 2. D. Passarella 3. B. Wright 4. D. Dzajic 5. Vogts 6. G. Netzer 7. Tostão 8. B. Robson 9. B. Lizarazu 10. S.Maier 11. Tigana 12. Lato 13. Rui Costa 14. Rattin 15. J.A. Camacho 16. A. Möller 17. J. Joya 18. Lucio 19. S. Reuter

spontaneus1 (O. Hitzfeld) 1. D. Maradona 2. M. Sammer 3. Carlos Alberto 4. A. Shearer 5. Gerson 6. G. Zsengeller 7. J. L. Andrade 8. A. Cabrini 9. A. Hansen 10. N. Southall 11. Costacurta 12. B. Bremner 13. G. Chillieni 14. J. Klinsmann 15. V.R Andrade 16. W. Suurbier 17. M. Hughes 18. E. Cantona 19. E. Happel

harms (Udo Lattek) 1. A. Di Stefano 2. S. Matthews 3. A. Picchi 4. Zizinho 5. Shesternyov 6. A. Erico 7. I. Netto 8. L. Júnior 9. C. Makelele 10. Grosics 11. Armfield 12. H. Scarone 13. R. Bonhof 14. H-P Briegel 15. Tonono 16. V. Bobrov 17. C Jones 18. H. Schumacher 19. A. Segato

@simonhch
 
That's a cracking pick @Tuppet. I didn't even think about him because in my mind he is a manager, but he was actually a bloody good player.
 
Miodrag "The Deer" Belodedici

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Sjor (A. Ferguson)
1. P. Scholes 2. A. Nesta 3. P. Lahm 4. U. Seeler 5. E. Davids 6. D. Bergkamp 7. D. Beckham 8. N. Vidic 9. B. Schweinsteiger 10. F. Albert 11. E. van der Sar 12. F. Ribery 13. J.P. Sorin 14. H. Larsson 15. J. Giles 16. V. Onopko 17. E. Gray 18. R. Donadoni 19. T. Gemmell 20. R. da Silva

Adjudicator (B. Robson) 1. L. Kubala 2. T. Henry 3. J. Zanetti 4. Roberto Carlos 5. P. Vieira 6. S. Mazzola 7. R. Carvalho 8. G. Buffon 9. F. Lampard 10. T. Adams 11. D. Simeone 12. M. Essien 13. E. Cambiasso 14. L. Suarez 15. W. Samuel 16. J. Segarra 17. V. Durkovic 18. Juninho Pe. 19. G. Zola 20. L. Koscielny

BeforeKeaneThereWasRobson (R. Michels) 1. Garrincha 2. Xavi 3. Zidane 4. M. Laudrup 5. A Pirlo 6. P Kluivert 7. R Koeman 8. M Tresor 9. D Irwin 10. M Neuer 11. S Busquets 12. R v Nistelrooy 13. A Cole 14. F Totti 15. X. Alonso 16. Giovanni Ferrari 17. D McGrain 18. A Giresse 19. P Keizer 20. L Bonucci

Mazhar/JB08 (A. Sacchi) 1. M. Platini 2. G. Müller 3. J. Neeskens 4. N. Santos 5. D. Santos 6. D. Law 7. V. Voronin 8. F. Hierro 9. K. Förster 10. S. Effenberg 11. R. Dasayev 12. L. Modric 13. R. Rensenbrink 14. P. Elkjaer 15. Z. Boban 16. S. Lerby 17. A. Haan 18. H. Blankenburg 19. G. Buchwald 20. F. Toldo

2mufc0 (M. Lippi)
1. F. Baresi 2. M. Van Basten 3. R. Gullit 4. P. Nedved 5. J. Stam 6. M. Coluna 7. C. Seedorf 8. Del Piero 9. G. Zambrotta 10. R. Jarni 11. V. Vasovic 12. M. Ballack 13. D. Alaba 14. Maicon 15. T. Cerezo 16. T. Silva 17. W. Zenga 18. R. Pires 19. K. Keegan 20. T. Kroos

Gio (G. Trapattoni) 1. L. Matthaus 2. Eusebio 3. Cafu 4. J. Nasazzi 5. J. Kohler 6. L. Monti 7. G. Rivera 8. B. Vukas 9. M. Amoros 10. V. Beara 11. F. Gento 12. D. Da Guia 13. B. Oblak 14. J. Greaves 15. B. Laudrup 16. M. Khurtsilava 17. M. Kempes 18. B. Schuster 19. I. Surjak 20. K. Sesta

antohan (J. Cruyff) 1. Romario 2. F. Rijkaard 3. A. Brehme 4. R. Krol 5. L. Figo 6. W. van Hanegem 7. M. Desailly 8. F. Walter 9. J. Popluhar 10. M. Bossis 11. A. Spencer 12. A. Simonsen 13. G. Signori 14. E. Francescoli 15. L. Enrique 16. J.C.Morales 17. F. Causio 18. G. Popescu 19. A. Carrizo 20. L. Mazurkiewicz

Invictus/Ecstatic (Ancelotti) 1. F. Puskás 2. E. Figueroa 3. G. Nordahl 4. Suárez M. 5. O. Varela 6. L. Thuram 7. A. Iniesta 8. H. Chumpitaz 9. K. Hamrin 10. D. Zoff 11. P. Littbarski 12. W. Overath 13. K. Deyna 14. A. Demyanenko 15. B. Conti 16. U. Stielike 17. F. Arce 18. Raúl G. 19. R. Gordillo 20. Gunnar Gren

Macern (B. Paisley) 1. Ronaldinho 2. P. Maldini 3. B. Stankovic 4. S. Cervato 5. D. Dean 6. G. Sarosi 7. Z. Boniek 8. D. Mackay 9. C. Ferrara 10. P. Schmeichel 11. W. Nausch 12. P. Pogba 13. E. Butragueno 14. C. Puyol 15. J. Travassos 16. T. Muller 17. G. Gattuso 18. G. Strömberg 19. B. Lennox 20.
J. Buzánszky

Tuppet (H. Herrera) 1. G. Facchetti 2. J. Bican 3. L. Yashin 4. J. Schiaffino 5. R. Kopa 6. P. Janes 7. G. Hanappi 8. W. Schulz 9. D. Savicevic 10. Pirri 11. N. Lofthouse 12. G. Lorant 13. J. Johnstone 14. G. Bale 15. J. Blum 16. S. Hypia 17. Jorginho 18. R. Jonquet 19. F. Szepan 20. H. Michel

simonhch (Capello) 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. B. Charlton 3. J. Masopust 4. T. Finney 5. Leonidas 6. R. Ferdinand 7. S. Mihajlovic 8. G. Hagi 9. J. Quincoces 10. G. Banks 11. Neymar 12. S. Ramos 13. G. Weah 14. E. Gerets 15. R. Prosinecki 16. I. Petschovschi 17. D. Stojkovic 18. A Benarrivo 19. Amancio 20. M. Belodedici

Skizzo/joga (Lobanovskyi) 1. F. Beckenbauer 2. V. Mazzola 3. D. Edwards 4. B. Zebec 5. N. Hidegkuti 6. N. Liedholm 7. F.Jusufi 8. Ademir 9. P. Vierchowod 10. O.Kahn 11. A. Pedernera 12. Zito 13. L. Riva 14. A.Tirnanic 15. P. Madeley 16. D. Sekularac 17. H.G. Schwarzenbeck 18. Hans-Jurgen “Dixie” Dorner 19. K. Balakov

P-Nut0712(P. Guardiola) 1. G. Best 2. B. Moore 3. F. Redondo 4. Czibor 5. Batistuta 6. R. Keane 7. R.Baggio 8. Kaka 9. L. Blanc 10. D. Alves 11. Riquelme 12. Marcelo 13. J.Veron 14. Robben 15. O. Blokhin 16. Evra 17. Pique 18. H. Sanchez 19. D. De Gea

Igor Drefljak (M. Muñoz) 1. G. Meazza 2. J.M. Moreno 3. M. Sindelar 4. A. Ballarin 5. J. Charles 6. E. Ocwirk 7. V. Maroso 8. R. Zamora 9. N. Franklin 10. M. Milutinovic 11. Zlatko Cajkovski 12. A. Lenstra 13. B.Liddell 14. R. Ayala 15. Y. Toure 16. C. Vieri 17. S. Campbell 18. V. Boskov 19. B. Belin

NM (B. Guttmann) 1. Ronaldo 2. G. Scirea 3. Didi 4. Jairzinho 5. Rivaldo 6. S. Marzolini 7. M. Tardelli 8. R. Giggs 9. C. Gentile 10. P. Shilton 11. T. Burgnich 12. S. Piola 13. B.McNeill 14. D. Deschamps 15. J. Altafini 16. R. Orsi 17. M. Kaltz 18. R. Marche 19. C. Bell

Pillow/altodevil (B Clough) 1. J. Cruyff 2. K-H. Rummenigge 3. H. Stoichkov 4. J. Bozsik 5. F. Cannavaro 6. P. Breitner 7. G. Neville 8. J. Terry 9. Jugovic 10. Shevchenko 11. S. Gerrard 12. E. Hughes 13. M. Peters 14. P. Guardiola 15. G. Strachan 16. J. Carragher 17. L. Küçükandonyadis 18. J. Kelsey 19. M. Tassotti

Moby/Raees (M. Busby) 1. L. Messi 2. Zico 3. P. R. Falcao 4. Rivelino 5. Santamaria 6. S. Kocsis 7. G. Bergomi 8. K-H Schnellinger 9. G. Souness 10. P. McGrath 11. Planicka 12. O. Ruggeri 13. R. Perfumo 14. D. Blanchflower 15. A. Di Livio 16. J. Fontaine 17. F. Bene 18. O. Sivori 19. S. Pluskal

Red Tiger/Enigma (E. Happel) 1. Pelé 2. D. Passarella 3. B. Wright 4. D. Dzajic 5. Vogts 6. G. Netzer 7. Tostão 8. B. Robson 9. B. Lizarazu 10. S.Maier 11. Tigana 12. Lato 13. Rui Costa 14. Rattin 15. J.A. Camacho 16. A. Möller 17. J. Joya 18. Lucio 19. S. Reuter

spontaneus1 (O. Hitzfeld) 1. D. Maradona 2. M. Sammer 3. Carlos Alberto 4. A. Shearer 5. Gerson 6. G. Zsengeller 7. J. L. Andrade 8. A. Cabrini 9. A. Hansen 10. N. Southall 11. Costacurta 12. B. Bremner 13. G. Chillieni 14. J. Klinsmann 15. V.R Andrade 16. W. Suurbier 17. M. Hughes 18. E. Cantona 19. E. Happel

harms (Udo Lattek) 1. A. Di Stefano 2. S. Matthews 3. A. Picchi 4. Zizinho 5. Shesternyov 6. A. Erico 7. I. Netto 8. L. Júnior 9. C. Makelele 10. Grosics 11. Armfield 12. H. Scarone 13. R. Bonhof 14. H-P Briegel 15. Tonono 16. V. Bobrov 17. C Jones 18. H. Schumacher 19. A. Segato

@Skizzo @Joga Bonito
 
Sjor (A. Ferguson) 1. P. Scholes 2. A. Nesta 3. P. Lahm 4. U. Seeler 5. E. Davids 6. D. Bergkamp 7. D. Beckham 8. N. Vidic 9. B. Schweinsteiger 10. F. Albert 11. E. van der Sar 12. F. Ribery 13. J.P. Sorin 14. H. Larsson 15. J. Giles 16. V. Onopko 17. E. Gray 18. R. Donadoni 19. T. Gemmell 20. R. da Silva

Adjudicator (B. Robson) 1. L. Kubala 2. T. Henry 3. J. Zanetti 4. Roberto Carlos 5. P. Vieira 6. S. Mazzola 7. R. Carvalho 8. G. Buffon 9. F. Lampard 10. T. Adams 11. D. Simeone 12. M. Essien 13. E. Cambiasso 14. L. Suarez 15. W. Samuel 16. J. Segarra 17. V. Durkovic 18. Juninho Pe. 19. G. Zola 20. L. Koscielny

BeforeKeaneThereWasRobson (R. Michels) 1. Garrincha 2. Xavi 3. Zidane 4. M. Laudrup 5. A Pirlo 6. P Kluivert 7. R Koeman 8. M Tresor 9. D Irwin 10. M Neuer 11. S Busquets 12. R v Nistelrooy 13. A Cole 14. F Totti 15. X. Alonso 16. Giovanni Ferrari 17. D McGrain 18. A Giresse 19. P Keizer 20. L Bonucci

Mazhar/JB08 (A. Sacchi) 1. M. Platini 2. G. Müller 3. J. Neeskens 4. N. Santos 5. D. Santos 6. D. Law 7. V. Voronin 8. F. Hierro 9. K. Förster 10. S. Effenberg 11. R. Dasayev 12. L. Modric 13. R. Rensenbrink 14. P. Elkjaer 15. Z. Boban 16. S. Lerby 17. A. Haan 18. H. Blankenburg 19. G. Buchwald 20. F. Toldo

2mufc0 (M. Lippi)
1. F. Baresi 2. M. Van Basten 3. R. Gullit 4. P. Nedved 5. J. Stam 6. M. Coluna 7. C. Seedorf 8. Del Piero 9. G. Zambrotta 10. R. Jarni 11. V. Vasovic 12. M. Ballack 13. D. Alaba 14. Maicon 15. T. Cerezo 16. T. Silva 17. W. Zenga 18. R. Pires 19. K. Keegan 20. T. Kroos

Gio (G. Trapattoni) 1. L. Matthaus 2. Eusebio 3. Cafu 4. J. Nasazzi 5. J. Kohler 6. L. Monti 7. G. Rivera 8. B. Vukas 9. M. Amoros 10. V. Beara 11. F. Gento 12. D. Da Guia 13. B. Oblak 14. J. Greaves 15. B. Laudrup 16. M. Khurtsilava 17. M. Kempes 18. B. Schuster 19. I. Surjak 20. K. Sesta

antohan (J. Cruyff) 1. Romario 2. F. Rijkaard 3. A. Brehme 4. R. Krol 5. L. Figo 6. W. van Hanegem 7. M. Desailly 8. F. Walter 9. J. Popluhar 10. M. Bossis 11. A. Spencer 12. A. Simonsen 13. G. Signori 14. E. Francescoli 15. L. Enrique 16. J.C.Morales 17. F. Causio 18. G. Popescu 19. A. Carrizo 20. L. Mazurkiewicz

Invictus/Ecstatic (Ancelotti) 1. F. Puskás 2. E. Figueroa 3. G. Nordahl 4. Suárez M. 5. O. Varela 6. L. Thuram 7. A. Iniesta 8. H. Chumpitaz 9. K. Hamrin 10. D. Zoff 11. P. Littbarski 12. W. Overath 13. K. Deyna 14. A. Demyanenko 15. B. Conti 16. U. Stielike 17. F. Arce 18. Raúl G. 19. R. Gordillo 20. Gunnar Gren

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J. Buzánszky

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simonhch (Capello) 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. B. Charlton 3. J. Masopust 4. T. Finney 5. Leonidas 6. R. Ferdinand 7. S. Mihajlovic 8. G. Hagi 9. J. Quincoces 10. G. Banks 11. Neymar 12. S. Ramos 13. G. Weah 14. E. Gerets 15. R. Prosinecki 16. I. Petschovschi 17. D. Stojkovic 18. A Benarrivo 19. Amancio 20. M. Belodedici

Skizzo/joga (Lobanovskyi) 1. F. Beckenbauer 2. V. Mazzola 3. D. Edwards 4. B. Zebec 5. N. Hidegkuti 6. N. Liedholm 7. F.Jusufi 8. Ademir 9. P. Vierchowod 10. O.Kahn 11. A. Pedernera 12. Zito 13. L. Riva 14. A.Tirnanic 15. P. Madeley 16. D. Sekularac 17. H.G. Schwarzenbeck 18. Hans-Jurgen “Dixie” Dorner 19. K. Balakov 20. R.Sensini

P-Nut0712(P. Guardiola) 1. G. Best 2. B. Moore 3. F. Redondo 4. Czibor 5. Batistuta 6. R. Keane 7. R.Baggio 8. Kaka 9. L. Blanc 10. D. Alves 11. Riquelme 12. Marcelo 13. J.Veron 14. Robben 15. O. Blokhin 16. Evra 17. Pique 18. H. Sanchez 19. D. De Gea

Igor Drefljak (M. Muñoz) 1. G. Meazza 2. J.M. Moreno 3. M. Sindelar 4. A. Ballarin 5. J. Charles 6. E. Ocwirk 7. V. Maroso 8. R. Zamora 9. N. Franklin 10. M. Milutinovic 11. Zlatko Cajkovski 12. A. Lenstra 13. B.Liddell 14. R. Ayala 15. Y. Toure 16. C. Vieri 17. S. Campbell 18. V. Boskov 19. B. Belin

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Moby/Raees (M. Busby) 1. L. Messi 2. Zico 3. P. R. Falcao 4. Rivelino 5. Santamaria 6. S. Kocsis 7. G. Bergomi 8. K-H Schnellinger 9. G. Souness 10. P. McGrath 11. Planicka 12. O. Ruggeri 13. R. Perfumo 14. D. Blanchflower 15. A. Di Livio 16. J. Fontaine 17. F. Bene 18. O. Sivori 19. S. Pluskal

Red Tiger/Enigma (E. Happel) 1. Pelé 2. D. Passarella 3. B. Wright 4. D. Dzajic 5. Vogts 6. G. Netzer 7. Tostão 8. B. Robson 9. B. Lizarazu 10. S.Maier 11. Tigana 12. Lato 13. Rui Costa 14. Rattin 15. J.A. Camacho 16. A. Möller 17. J. Joya 18. Lucio 19. S. Reuter

spontaneus1 (O. Hitzfeld) 1. D. Maradona 2. M. Sammer 3. Carlos Alberto 4. A. Shearer 5. Gerson 6. G. Zsengeller 7. J. L. Andrade 8. A. Cabrini 9. A. Hansen 10. N. Southall 11. Costacurta 12. B. Bremner 13. G. Chillieni 14. J. Klinsmann 15. V.R Andrade 16. W. Suurbier 17. M. Hughes 18. E. Cantona 19. E. Happel

harms (Udo Lattek) 1. A. Di Stefano 2. S. Matthews 3. A. Picchi 4. Zizinho 5. Shesternyov 6. A. Erico 7. I. Netto 8. L. Júnior 9. C. Makelele 10. Grosics 11. Armfield 12. H. Scarone 13. R. Bonhof 14. H-P Briegel 15. Tonono 16. V. Bobrov 17. C Jones 18. H. Schumacher 19. A. Segato
 
The database is a bit messed up. For instance Pele has 20 jumping. Jumping in FM is how high a player can reach, not how high he can get his feet off the ground. Pele is basically going to win headers against almost everyone
 
Isnt he in the original fm 2017?

Probably overwritten with one of the 2700 legends.

TBH he would be a wasted pick in this database anyway. He's nowhere near legend status mate
 
Probably overwritten with one of the 2700 legends.

TBH he would be a wasted pick in this database anyway. He's nowhere near legend status mate

:( i know he would be the worst player in the league but still worth it, love the litle guy!
Give me dan petrescu then...
 
The database is a bit messed up. For instance Pele has 20 jumping. Jumping in FM is how high a player can reach, not how high he can get his feet off the ground. Pele is basically going to win headers against almost everyone
And now you tell me :rolleyes:

So basically he may wind up being better than Spencer despite him being way shorter and admitting himself that he was better aerially.

Awesome.
 
The database is a bit messed up. For instance Pele has 20 jumping. Jumping in FM is how high a player can reach, not how high he can get his feet off the ground. Pele is basically going to win headers against almost everyone
I think it's the opposite. A 175cm-ish man with a 20 Jump is equivalent/comparable to a 200cm man with a 13 jump - as a loose example.
 
And now you tell me :rolleyes:

So basically he may wind up being better than Spencer despite him being way shorter and admitting himself that he was better aerially.

Awesome.
I just found out

Imagine Pele only 210 cm tall and who still has the agility and pace of the 173cm tall Pele

We're doomed
 
I think it's the opposite. A 175cm-ish man with a 20 Jump is equivalent/comparable to a 200cm man with a 13 jump - as a loose example.
Nope. Just look at the different players in FM. Mertesacker has 20 jumping for instance. Evra or Falcao doesn't have very much.
 
And now you tell me :rolleyes:

So basically he may wind up being better than Spencer despite him being way shorter and admitting himself that he was better aerially.

Awesome.

Blame Cruyff, you likely won't be seeing a cross heavy side ;)
 
4.4. Jumping Reach
How high a player's head can reach when jumping.

A player's height only affects whether he needs to jump and how much effort he needs to put into a jump, but is particularly important when a player is competing with an opposition player to get to an aerial ball. Taller players tend to have higher Jumping Reach due to their height advantage.
 
Nope. Just look at the different players in FM. Mertesacker has 20 jumping for instance. Evra or Falcao doesn't have very much.
Looks like you're right. That's terrible.

The guy who made the database must have misinterpreted it like I did, with Pele on 97 in pesstats for jumping.
 
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I am off to bed right now, Dunno who to send my pick to, so if P-Nut doesn't pick this guy, I will choose D. Cavem. If for some reason he does, just carry on and I'll pick in the morning :lol: