Meh.
It's all on Southgate. Who brings on two forwards with 2 mins to go extra time just to take a pen, yet keeps mount on for almost the whole stretch?
Mind boggling.
Final: Italy vs England
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Mind boggling.
Shaw's chance of the Ballon d'Or gone 
After a perfect start we handed all the initiative to Italy and gave them all the time to figure it out.
Someone mentioned italys poor bench options compared to England's but bench options are irrelevant if you don't use them.
Italy used theirs, they changed shape, they changed approach, they actively sought to win the game whilst England were intent only on grinding the game out.
Why not give rashford and sancho at least the last 15 to run at their aged defence? Rashford has played what 5-10mins all tourney! But give him a crucial penalty in the final, great idea that
Someone mentioned italys poor bench options compared to England's but bench options are irrelevant if you don't use them.
Italy used theirs, they changed shape, they changed approach, they actively sought to win the game whilst England were intent only on grinding the game out.
Why not give rashford and sancho at least the last 15 to run at their aged defence? Rashford has played what 5-10mins all tourney! But give him a crucial penalty in the final, great idea that
Did Kane touch the ball in Italy's box? Apparently he hadnt till Extra time.
Martin Tyler made sure he did that trophy lifting words as anticlimactic and unimpressionable as possible, feck me 
They reached the final despite of him. I rarely praise England but this squad had some serious talent. Yet most was left lingering in the bench. The guy can't even get the basics right. For example you don't bring in players only to immediately involve them in a penalty shout out. He should return to Middlesbrough. That is his level
I dunno but he doesn't strike me as a huge personality that you would take a chance on with a penalty at this stage. It's not like a young Rooney you know? Even if he said he would, I think Gareth should have said not this time or something. Just think the manager has to make cool decisions at such a crucial time and putting this young lad in to take that on this huge stage..... I wouldn't really. However, that's just my opinion which is probably clouded by my worry for the lad as I don't want him getting stupid abuse.
Get help. You’re obsessed. I’m not your enemy.
Yeap went too defensive after ye scored.
Your attack was good enough to trouble them, missed opportunity.
Were you expecting dances and knee slides?
They're gutted and probably don't want to be wearing a losers medal.
I know facts are hard to deal with. The fact is people want england to lose because its england and it has a history. You wobble your head into a history book mate
Rashford's miss was the crucial one...
There’s no game time to shake off the nerves, to get your body upto game speed, so much wrong with doing it, awful decision I think
feck it, I'm going to bed
I'll be honest, I thought we played well agasint Denmark and turned a corner. How wrong was i, though. Same old Southgate..
"if the game is played with one ball instead of two I'll go for an Italy win"
Gas comment from before the game by Damien Duff.
Gas comment from before the game by Damien Duff.
The people who love football won, the people who hate England won, the people who love having fights and shoving flares up their holes won, everybody won
Truth.
Second place? It's a fecking finalists medal! There's a huge difference.
Think they're too good for 2nd, pulled the same shite in the Uefa Cup. Sickening, we haven't won a trophy for 60 years and these cnuts throw a wobbly for coming 2nd. Better teams than them have done worse.
Ah well, this Euro really has been a bonding experience for the EU. Never seen so many (if any) Germanys cheer for the Italians.
Well done England, shame you didn't win but that's life, penalties are a toss of the coin. Congrats Italy
They should all agree to put it around Southgate's neck. He deserves it
Southgate is a wet blanket, always has been. His tactics in the other matches were pure luck more than judgement. Second best squad at the tournament and his tactics were too negative.
I actually just checked, Sancho did not touch the ball once in the regular game, marking his pen as his first touch.
That is just appaling management and a freaking rookie mistake. You never send in players in high pressure situations if they have no play rythm. It is just mindboggling. Southgate thouroughly bottled this as this was far from his only mistake. Mancini completely exposed him in terms of coaching from the half time mark onwards. The latter actually adjusted tactics and formation to influence the game while the former just stood there and watched without any answer outside a gimmick at the the very end. No answer with that bench at his disposal, thats just criminal.
That is just appaling management and a freaking rookie mistake. You never send in players in high pressure situations if they have no play rythm. It is just mindboggling. Southgate thouroughly bottled this as this was far from his only mistake. Mancini completely exposed him in terms of coaching from the half time mark onwards. The latter actually adjusted tactics and formation to influence the game while the former just stood there and watched without any answer outside a gimmick at the the very end. No answer with that bench at his disposal, thats just criminal.
You're the dickhead who, in response to a guy who was getting racist abuse as he was literally feeding children missing a penalty, first said he deserved the ridicule that would be coming then scoffed at the idea the abuse would be racist.
You may not be my enemy, but you sure as shit aren't my mate.
The penalty list was written in the spur of the moment. You can see Southgate frantically writing down name to a device. He should have prepared a list and ask someone to key in.
Nah it's ridiculous. Shearer said pretty much the same thing. The pressure they'd have been under and they didn't even get a proper run out. Did they even touch the ball after sitting on their arse for 3 hrs?
He was shite tonight. Reverted back the lazy dawdling from the group stage.
This instant taking off silver medal thing is disgusting. Should be confiscated and given to the 3rd place.
My tv is fine.
Italy don't deserve winning the trophy.
I respect your opinion but I disagree with you.
Jorginho should have clearly been sent off for that stamp on Grealish. How come that wasn't reviewed by VAR?
Gareth Moyes
Southgate should say he has taken these players as far as he can and move to a position in the FA.
If we had a decent tactician as manager we would have won that.
If we had a decent tactician as manager we would have won that.
I understand being gutted, but if it was any other sport it wouldn't be that bad. England reched a final at last, this could be the beggining of something more. I do think next WC will be yours, a lot of youth talent will be more matured and hopefully you don't have a park the bus manager.
This was the game of the century for them. COVID year, at home not winning a major trophy for 55 years and an Italy - a good one but it was not like Xavi/Iniesta's Spain so there was a chance. England had better team on paper + Spinazzola injured. Taking penalties in front of your supporters just brings more pressure on you.
Lampard talking sense about keeping possession. Constant theme through the years.
Also, who else loved Donnarummas reaction?
Cantonaesque.
Cantonaesque.
You’re embarrassing yourself.