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Final - Germany vs. Argentina
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If you think Germany's football is boring then you need to get your head checked. Let me guess, hoofball and getting into the by-line is more exciting right?
Please tell me more about how boring Germany are.
Germany FTW
Germany 7 Argentina 1, give them the Cup already!!!
well. this is it, it has been a great ride, but lets face it, we are here but we wont win it
germany has played great against portugal and brazil, two very good teams, while argentina scrapped every victory
i'm not going to say that argentina doesnt deserve to be here, because, there hasnt been a team that deserved it much more -of course, besides germany-
my only hope is that they beat us 2-0. i dont want argentina to become the team who lost for the biggest goal difference in a world cup final
i don't think that's too much to ask, or that i'm delusional, our defense has been pretty solid, so i'm hopefull we wont let the germans score more than two
i'm sorry for the dutchs, because i really want them to win a world cup, losing three finals and going out on this semifinal, must be too painfull, but shit happens
to the fans that say argentina is a pile of shit, i understand their feeling, but i can't think of another team that hasnt been as bad as us
cheers
germany has played great against portugal and brazil, two very good teams, while argentina scrapped every victory
i'm not going to say that argentina doesnt deserve to be here, because, there hasnt been a team that deserved it much more -of course, besides germany-
my only hope is that they beat us 2-0. i dont want argentina to become the team who lost for the biggest goal difference in a world cup final
i don't think that's too much to ask, or that i'm delusional, our defense has been pretty solid, so i'm hopefull we wont let the germans score more than two
i'm sorry for the dutchs, because i really want them to win a world cup, losing three finals and going out on this semifinal, must be too painfull, but shit happens
to the fans that say argentina is a pile of shit, i understand their feeling, but i can't think of another team that hasnt been as bad as us
cheers
GERMANY
4-0 vs. Portugal: Muller 3, Hummels
Neuer; Boateng, Mertesacker, Hummels, Howedes; Lahm, Kroos, Khedira; Gotze, Ozil, Muller
2-2 vs. Ghana: Gotze, Klose
Neuer; Boateng, Mertesacker, Hummels, Howedes; Lahm, Kroos, Khedira; Gotze, Muller, Ozil
1-0 vs. United States: Muller
Neuer; Boateng, Mertesacker, Hummels, Howedes; Lahm, Kroos, Schweinsteiger; Podolski, Muller, Ozil
2-1 vs. Algeria (aet): Schurrle, Ozil
Neuer;Musfafi, Boateng, Mertesacker, Howedes; Lahm, Kroos, Schweinsteiger; Gotze, Muller, Ozil
1-0 vs. France: Hummels
Neuer; Lahm, Boateng, Hummels, Howedes; Schweinsteiger, Khedira; Ozil, Kroos, Muller; Klose
7-1 vs. Brasil: Muller, Klose, Kroos 2, Khedira, Schurrle 2
Neuer; Lahm, Boateng, Hummels, Howedes; Khedira, Schweinsteiger; Ozil, Kroos, Muller; Klose
ARGENTINA
2-1 vs. Bosnia-Herzegovina: Kolasinac (OG), Messi
Romero; Zabaleta, Campagnaro, Fernandez, Garay, Rojo; Rodriguez, Mascherano, di Maria; Messi, Aguero
1-0 vs. Iran: Messi
Romero; Zabaleta, Fernandez, Garay, Rojo; Gago, Mascherano, di Maria; Aguero, Higuain, Messi
3-2 vs. Nigeria: Messi 2, Rojo
Romero; Zabaleta, Fernandez, Garay, Rojo; Gago, Mascherano, di Maria; Messi; Aguero, Higuain
1-0 vs. Switzerland (aet): di Maria
Romero; Zabaleta, Fernandez, Garay, Rojo; Gago, Mascherano, di Maria; Messi; Lavezzi, Higuain
1-0 vs. Belgium: Higuain
Romero; Zabaleta, Fernandez, Garay, Rojo; Lavezzi, Biglia, Mascherano, di Maria; Messi, Higuain
0-0 vs. Netherlands (aet):
Romero; Zabaleta, Demichellis, Garay, Rojo; Biglia, Mascherano, Perez; Messi; Lavezzi, Higuain
4-0 vs. Portugal: Muller 3, Hummels
Neuer; Boateng, Mertesacker, Hummels, Howedes; Lahm, Kroos, Khedira; Gotze, Ozil, Muller
2-2 vs. Ghana: Gotze, Klose
Neuer; Boateng, Mertesacker, Hummels, Howedes; Lahm, Kroos, Khedira; Gotze, Muller, Ozil
1-0 vs. United States: Muller
Neuer; Boateng, Mertesacker, Hummels, Howedes; Lahm, Kroos, Schweinsteiger; Podolski, Muller, Ozil
2-1 vs. Algeria (aet): Schurrle, Ozil
Neuer;Musfafi, Boateng, Mertesacker, Howedes; Lahm, Kroos, Schweinsteiger; Gotze, Muller, Ozil
1-0 vs. France: Hummels
Neuer; Lahm, Boateng, Hummels, Howedes; Schweinsteiger, Khedira; Ozil, Kroos, Muller; Klose
7-1 vs. Brasil: Muller, Klose, Kroos 2, Khedira, Schurrle 2
Neuer; Lahm, Boateng, Hummels, Howedes; Khedira, Schweinsteiger; Ozil, Kroos, Muller; Klose
ARGENTINA
2-1 vs. Bosnia-Herzegovina: Kolasinac (OG), Messi
Romero; Zabaleta, Campagnaro, Fernandez, Garay, Rojo; Rodriguez, Mascherano, di Maria; Messi, Aguero
1-0 vs. Iran: Messi
Romero; Zabaleta, Fernandez, Garay, Rojo; Gago, Mascherano, di Maria; Aguero, Higuain, Messi
3-2 vs. Nigeria: Messi 2, Rojo
Romero; Zabaleta, Fernandez, Garay, Rojo; Gago, Mascherano, di Maria; Messi; Aguero, Higuain
1-0 vs. Switzerland (aet): di Maria
Romero; Zabaleta, Fernandez, Garay, Rojo; Gago, Mascherano, di Maria; Messi; Lavezzi, Higuain
1-0 vs. Belgium: Higuain
Romero; Zabaleta, Fernandez, Garay, Rojo; Lavezzi, Biglia, Mascherano, di Maria; Messi, Higuain
0-0 vs. Netherlands (aet):
Romero; Zabaleta, Demichellis, Garay, Rojo; Biglia, Mascherano, Perez; Messi; Lavezzi, Higuain
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Depends which German side shows up I suppose. If its the one that hammered Portugal and Brazil, the Argies are fecked. If its the one that showed up against Algeria, they have a decent chance.
Germany will again play 10 vs 11, so ofcourse Argentina has a big chance.
Yeah you definitely deserve to be in the final tbh. Germany are the favourites but Argentina have shown a lot of quality this competition, most wouldn't rule them out at all. If you get the ball or counter fast, their defence isn't all that and Neuer still can be too aggressive. Besides, after what happened to Brazil, there'd be no real shame in being defeated by the Germans.
Howedes will score the winning goal just to jinx you.
We just don't know about Di Maria and Aguero's fitness by Sunday. Until we know that, predictions are futile.
17 goals for Germany (it was 2-1 v Algeria aet, 0-0 before)
8 goals for Argentina.
Both conceded few then with Germany only 4 and Argentina 3.
Argentina need to attack more because the Germans will score atleast 1 for me so unless they score themselves obviously they will lose (This is how Football works I think)
Germany 3 - 2 Argentina
I can see this being a cautious first half and a flood of goals in the second half. Muller wins it in extra time.
I can see this being a cautious first half and a flood of goals in the second half. Muller wins it in extra time.
Germany look too strong for Argentina.
Personally I'd like to see either messi win it for Argentina with a top class performance, or, if he doesn't perform, them Germany winning it. Either way I hope both teams have some balls and don't play like the Netherlands Argentina semi final.
Personally I'd like to see either messi win it for Argentina with a top class performance, or, if he doesn't perform, them Germany winning it. Either way I hope both teams have some balls and don't play like the Netherlands Argentina semi final.
Thanks, I'll fix it.
1-0 Argentina. Messi, 89th minute.
seems excessive.first, we wont win it, we cant compete with the germans
second, if we do win it, i wont celebrate thinking that your summer is ruined
trust me
No sh*t. It is pretty comical to be honest. Germany needed extra time to beat ALGERIA, drew with Ghana, and beat France 1-0. The idea that they have been some all conquering side a step above all the others in the tournament is totally ridiculous. But it isn`t surprising: you even had some morons in the transfer forum talk about signing that donkey Khedira because he had a good game against the worst Brazil side ever. These kind of hysterical reactions are nothing new.
I think it was Bayern Leverkusen.
On other toughs i believe Argentina do have a chance to win, for all the hate they get their defense have been extremely solid, a lot better than their atack that was supposed to bring them to the final. They might have been scrapping results, but Germany have also been scrapping results after that game whit Portugal (bar the game whit Brazil).
If Messi has a good day Argentina wins it, otherwise it goes to Germany.
call me crazy but I think you might
you are right, thank you mate
crazy!
seriously, i dont think we stand a chance, our defense is solid but we lack conection between them and the offensive players
germany is a power house and they are used to play this stances
but us i said, for us, argies, playing the final game in brazil while their fans watch from the stands, is a blast
Bollocks, every single team has sat back against them, Germany couldnt beat Algeria or Ghana in 90 minutes and looked awful against USA. A shite Portugal team and a very average Brazil team missing their 2 best players doesn't change that.
Whoever wins will be deserving winners and Messi winning it would surely secure him as the greatest of all time, which is deserving in it's own right
You are either incredibly pessimistic when it comes to Argentina or are trying your hardest not to jynx it, same with the Netherlands game
You're in the final, you have Lionel messi on your team. To say you won't win or you hope you don't lose badly is just wrong, of course Germany are favourites after their big win, and they do have a better squad, but Argentina have every chance IMO.
Defensively they are on a completely different level to Brazil, who have been shite in that respect all tournament, and Germany exploited it. Argentina on the other hand have played against contrasting styles and haven't really been too troubled at the back so far. They might not be very exciting going forward, rely too much on Messi to score, but at the back they play it very safely and smartly.
You are either incredibly pessimistic when it comes to Argentina or are trying your hardest not to jynx it, same with the Netherlands game
You're in the final, you have Lionel messi on your team. To say you won't win or you hope you don't lose badly is just wrong, of course Germany are favourites after their big win, and they do have a better squad, but Argentina have every chance IMO.
Defensively they are on a completely different level to Brazil, who have been shite in that respect all tournament, and Germany exploited it. Argentina on the other hand have played against contrasting styles and haven't really been too troubled at the back so far. They might not be very exciting going forward, rely too much on Messi to score, but at the back they play it very safely and smartly.
i wish i had your confidence, but i just don't, i really can't see how are we going to stop the germans, they are way too good, and they don't even need to reach the level they did against brazil to beat us fair and square
They're clear favourites, but not impossible at all.
Germany has been an extremely ruthless predator of mistakes. And incredibly effective at going for the kill if their opponents are at their mercy. But in both the games against Portugal and Brazil, there were crass mistakes that opened up the action. Both teams then bottled it and the Germans solved it very quickly. If Argentina doesn't give them those chances (and tidy as they've been at the back, they have a decent chance of not doing so) it can become a very drawn out game, and who knows to what that can lead? Ghana and Algeria could certainly have done it, because they were smart and defended well. Argentina has shown exactly that this tournament. Surely that puts you at a decent chance. It's 70-30 for Germany for me. Not 95-5 or anything of the sort.
Germany 1-0 (Mascherano OG, 89)
Howedes? He is fine. Ozil is the tourist, plenty of ppl have seen it.
A lot of people pointed to Argentina's defense as a weakness before the competition started but ironically enough they have been solid at the back during the knockout stages while conversely disappointing going forward (bar the game vs Nigeria). Messi was anonymous against Netherlands yesterday but with a player like him, he could be playing like shit for 110 minutes and out of nowhere pop up with a vital contribution.
Germany's morale must be sky high, but 4 years ago they beat Argentina 4-0 and crashed out afterwards so we'll have to see. I still think Germany are favorites going into this but Argentina can nick this if they stay disciplined defensively and wait patiently for chances.
Germany's morale must be sky high, but 4 years ago they beat Argentina 4-0 and crashed out afterwards so we'll have to see. I still think Germany are favorites going into this but Argentina can nick this if they stay disciplined defensively and wait patiently for chances.
I think this is the first time my tip before the tournament has actually made the final.
Yeah, all the time people were writing how Germany looks average now they are the best team that ever played football. Complete overreactions.
Yeah, put the words in my mouth please...
Sorry but Germany-France was a boring game, maybe you saw something in it I didnt.
Fair enough. But in the same time Argies are only lucky and nothing more.. If you ask most of the posters. Sure, their football hasnt been impressive but they deserve some credit too.
what ? no
Against Leverkusen a few years ago. And Leverkusen takes a beating from everyone in the cl.
And black_crow wrote : "for Bayern Munich and not for the national side". Leverkusen isn't included there.
Against Bayern and the national team Messi didnt show much. That is true. Yesterday he was very quiet also.
So, I'm very confident that Messi wont play a big role in the final.
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Howedes will have his task cut out against Lavezzi/Messi and Zabaleta.
I've had Argentina down to win it from the get go. I'll stick with them, but Germany have been impressive.
Mighty Germany will beat a competitive Argentina. Hopefully not for more than 2 goals.
haha yeh I didn't include it because it's painful for German football in general. But I live in the Dortmund area so the people around here were rather puking than celebrating when Bayern won. Bayern has as many haters in Germany as they have fans. Hate em or love em basically, and for everyone who isn't a fan the day of the final wasn't pretty.
Overall it's a weird inclusion in the list though, it's true. :P
I should've also added Werder losing the Europa League final and Leverkusen losing the CL Final though as another poster suggested.