Final - Germany vs. Argentina

Marko Marin, too.

And some youth talents, Sebastian Kneißl and this one goalkeeper.

I did actually remember Kneissel (not the spelling) but he never played for us so I can't include him. I forgot Marin and don't remember a german goalie.

My memory really is terrible, I really should get it looked into.

There's probably an all german Chelsea XI to be made of players I've forgotten.

My memory really is terrible, I really should get it looked into.
 
I did actually remember Kneissel (not the spelling) but he never played for us so I can't include him. I forgot Marin and don't remember a german goalie.

My memory really is terrible, I really should get it looked into.

There's probably an all german Chelsea XI to be made of players I've forgotten.

My memory really is terrible, I really should get it looked into.

Yeah, Kneißl went on to play in german 4th and 5th Division. What a career after training all day with the likes of Makelele :D
 
Was absolutely dreading the possibility of a Germany vs. Argentina final, the 1990 final was dire, and given the way Argentina have played for much of this tournament I'm not anticipating anything other than 1-0 either way at best. I can't help but hate both teams for whatever reason, the German NT always come off as a little soulless, and Argentina... well they need no explanation. I think I'll root for Germany, they've been involved in some cracking games (Ghana, Algeria, Brazil), and they're the only truly great team that didn't self-implode in the group stages (like England and Spain).
 
Was absolutely dreading the possibility of a Germany vs. Argentina final, the 1990 final was dire, and given the way Argentina have played for much of this tournament I'm not anticipating anything other than 1-0 either way at best. I can't help but hate both teams for whatever reason, the German NT always come off as a little soulless, and Argentina... well they need no explanation. I think I'll root for Germany, they've been involved in some cracking games (Ghana, Algeria, Brazil), and they're the only truly great team that didn't self-implode in the group stages (like England and Spain).

:wenger:
 
Was absolutely dreading the possibility of a Germany vs. Argentina final, the 1990 final was dire, and given the way Argentina have played for much of this tournament I'm not anticipating anything other than 1-0 either way at best. I can't help but hate both teams for whatever reason, the German NT always come off as a little soulless, and Argentina... well they need no explanation. I think I'll root for Germany, they've been involved in some cracking games (Ghana, Algeria, Brazil), and they're the only truly great team that didn't self-implode in the group stages (like England and Spain).
So England was a truly great team along with Spain and Germany?
 
Well, yeah the majority of German internet football fans are the worst idiots around, so it's not surprising that most of them believe this loser image nonsense. There's a reason why I don't visit any German football forum anymore. Spoilt bunch that don't even understand their own history in the game.

Truer words have rarely been spoken. It is understandable to a certain degree, because a lot of that bunch are still very young and it can be hard to put different generations in context when you have not seen them live. I´m personally at fault at overrating the current generation from time to time in comparision to say the 80ies, because it feels so strong to what we had a decade ago.

We overarchived in terms of results in 2002, 2006 and 2008 because of various reasons. Even 2010 was a surprise to many. It was not until 2012, when we were a rightful favourite based on squad strength for the first time since 1996. By then the deep rooted and expensive changes in the youth development and education of coaches as result to the dire period we had prior to that took real effects. This could be seen on Club level with the fantastic sides of Klopp, Heynckes and Guardiola, which were all built around strong German cores and as logical result in the national team.

Now we come to the point, where we have the strongest squad in the world even without world class players like Reus and Gündogan or players close to that like Badstuber or the Bender twins.
 
You know what, it's all a matter of perception, for some folks a semifinal is already a big game, for some others, the real big game is the final of a tournament.

Okay, for God's sake, FINALLY WIN THIS THING ON SUNDAY, and we can end this discussion once and for all.....:)
Well if Germany failed to win the World Cup on Sunday, is it safe to say they have bottled it? They won't get a better chance.
 
Nicola Rizzoli from Italy is the referee for this.

He did the Bayern vs Dortmund CL final in 2013 at Wembley.

United fans would maybe remember him for the Rafael red card vs Bayern.


Good choice as he is a sensible referee usually.
 
You have no idea what you're talking about if you think Germany struggled against USA and France. And Argentina didn't struggle against Bosnia, Iran, Switzerland and Holland? They beat Nigeria convincingly but still conceded 2 goals and Belgium simply gave them too much respect. Germany is a superior team to Argentina and comparing all their results, it's fair to say that Germany will beat Argentina comfortably.
They certainly didn't play well. Neither did they against France. As for Argentina, yes of course they struggled when Sabella wants to keep his side as solid defensively as possible. I haven't said anything otherwise, but I still think that Germany will have a hard time to break down the Argentine defence. That doesn't mean that they won't win it, but it will be a tight game. For Argentina to win, they need one hell of a performance from Messi.

IMO, people seem to be blinded by Germany's bashing of Brazil. Of course it was brilliant performance from the Germans, but that must also have been the worst game Brazil has ever played. Taking all their other games into account, they haven't been all that impressive all around. People may be in for a surprise this weekend.
 
i think germany will trash us

but fans are stupid and if you lose against argentina next sunday, beating 7-1 brazil in the semis will be bigger excuse to call germany "bottlers", they will say, yes, you scored 7 against brazil, but when things really matters you couldnt beat a weaker argentina

i wish we -the argies- were as bottlers as you are, instead of losing quarterfinals or leaving the wc in the group stages we would have had a lot of experience players that already played this kind of important games

a final game needs people with character and that comes with playing those kind of games

so i think that also in that department you have an edge

my prediction is that you beat us for at least 2 goals difference
I've more confidence in your team than you do. :angel:

I think you'll hold them to a 0-0, but I still think a penalty shootout against the Germans is a terrible idea.
 
I've more confidence in your team than you do. :angel:

I think you'll hold them to a 0-0, but I still think a penalty shootout against the Germans is a terrible idea.

i cant think of a most uneven WC final than this one

it's like Manchester United with ronaldo and rooney playing the FA Cup final against QPR at Old Trafford

there's not a chance in hell for argentina to win this game, we can defend well, but that's it and it´s not enough against the germans
 
i cant think of a most uneven WC final than this one

it's like Manchester United with ronaldo and rooney playing the FA Cup final against QPR at Old Trafford

there's not a chance in hell for argentina to win this game, we can defend well, but that's it and it´s not enough against the germans
To be honest, I can't imagine that there are currently more than 100 people in Argentina, who share your super-super-super pessimistic expectations when it comes to the final. It's one thing to be realistic, but if your players would only share a tenth of your (rather defeatist) attitude, they should not even bother to show up for the game on Sunday....why not just lay down, surrender and hand it over to the Germans? :rolleyes:
 
To be honest, I can't imagine that there are currently more than 100 people in Argentina, who share your super-super-super pessimistic expectations when it comes to the final. It's one thing to be realistic, but if your players would only share a tenth of your (rather defeatist) attitude, they should not even bother to show up for the game on Sunday....why not just lay down, surrender and hand it over to the Germans? :rolleyes:

mate, i´m delighted, we are playing the final game at the maracana stadium, we are going to come ahead of brazil at their home

what my team did is beautiful, epic! and unless we lose 15-0 nothing will be worse than brazil losing 7-1 at home and watching argentina play for the cup

but i must admit that germany has a team a lot better than ours

it's just a fact that i cant deny
 
Will Löw put anyone on Messi? LVG clearly wanted to neutralize him as much as possible. I have a feeling Messi will find Germany a better suited opponent than Holland was. Could be entirely wrong, of course.
 
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To be honest, I can't imagine that there are currently more than 100 people in Argentina, who share your super-super-super pessimistic expectations when it comes to the final. It's one thing to be realistic, but if your players would only share a tenth of your (rather defeatist) attitude, they should not even bother to show up for the game on Sunday....why not just lay down, surrender and hand it over to the Germans? :rolleyes:

He's not really though. Just going a bit overboard with the anti jinx :D
 
INCREDIBLY offensive cartoon to post. Have you ever even picked up a history book bro?

Absolute humourless answer.

I was never a bro... will not be... and that not even because I am a female... I guess I am not stylish enough to call anybody like this...
 
I was a bit disappointed to get a ban for a pic I posted recently but I'm not sure exactly what the rules are because I've seen worse since then!

I'm just going to play it safe and not bother posting anything that could be deemed offensive.
 
To the mods or the police? Serious question btw, I'm sure that broke several laws on racial/historical sensitivity.
Yeah, I thought the same. Mods, can we just band this joker and get on with it?

I've sent Niall a PM explaining my distress at the afromentioned post. I hope he understands the seriousness of this situation.
 
Absolute humourless answer.

I was never a bro... will not be... and that not even because I am a female... I guess I am not stylish enough to call anybody like this...
I may be humourless but I'm not SOULLESS. Soulless like you that is. Explicit reference to Germans taking over the world? HISTORY BOOK BRO. Or should I say brolina to be "politically correct". And I'm sure that the fact that Pinky and the Brain were lab rats and the Nazis wanted to end animal experiments is a coincidence too?

And don't think I haven't noticed your racist username either.
 
@Blackwidow Please delete, this 'cartoon' is in incredibly poor taste

I did. Still do not know what is wrong with it? Just Pinky and Brain with their usual sentences...

I still do not understand what should be wrong with it.

We are 60 years after World WarII. It is only football. Some might have even seen the irony behind it when they know Pinky and Brain...

I thought I really would have touched something sensible with this picture...

So it would have been fine if it would have been Americans or English or French - but not if it is a German flag? My father is born on D-day. My grandfather was in prison during the Nazitime because of his political ideas...

And I do not think that there is so much 80 year olds in this forum...
- but I do not think 80 year-olds talk to each others with bro...
 
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Everyone in this forum wanted brazil dead.
They died

Everyone now wants Argentenia dead,

Bad Omen:nervous:
 
I did. Still do not know what is wrong with it? Just Pinky and Brain with their usual sentences...

I still do not understand what should be wrong with it.

We are 60 years after World WarII. It is only football.

I know it's only football, and not the wars - but people will have lost relatives fighting
Surely you can see the problem with linking Germany and taking over the world in such a way

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And thanks for deleting
 
I'm glad it's deleted, but I just don't get why you'd post that kind of material on a forum that you've been on for nearly 3 years. It's just asking for a ban, especially with the lack of remorse afterwards.
 
I'm glad it's deleted, but I just don't get why you'd post that kind of material on a forum that you've been on for nearly 3 years. It's just asking for a ban, especially with the lack of remorse afterwards.
I'm surprised she's lasted so long with such a blatantly racist username