Can't base it off that. Rafael doesn't make the Brazil team either and we all know how good he is.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Can't base it off that. Rafael doesn't make the Brazil team either and we all know how good he is.
I've found myself not giving a shit about either of City's signings so far, to my surprise. I'll be more wary of who Chelsea sign.
Hilarious how little a manager's influence matters at clubs like City & Chelsea. Owners pulling all the strings, building squads based off what? Looks good on paper but can they be coached to play as a squad.
This is what they pay the two Barca fellas to do. Manager gets what he's given by the soy do of it.
That's how they do it on the continent it seems.
It's not the owners - it's Soriano and the other bloke. I suppose the owners look at what they did at Barca and are happy to let them make the decisions.
I'm not sold on whether it works in England to be fair but I guess we'll see.
That is why they have supposedly brought in Pelligrini he is used to that style so he should 'in theory' do fine.
Who knows, worked for them last yearI guess. Still don't feel you can buy team chemistry every year and expect to win a trophy as well.
It's a MASSIVE circus they're running.
Moyes already seeing the early days in the job adding a bit more pressure to his initial moves with Txiki making a pair of key signings - although overpaying per usual
Good player who will no doubt add to City's squad but for 60m they could have probably done better than Fernandinho and Jesus Navas.
30M for a 28 year old defensive midfielder? Good player I am sure; but the world has gone mad. So much for FFP.
Well, that was fast and window didn't even started. Another feck you to financial fair play.
Anyway, it's an interesting signing. City wants to be back in the title challenge and they keep doing a real things in that direction.
Anyway, it's an interesting signing. City wants to be back in the title challenge and they keep doing a real things in that direction.
People are always talking about FFP. How many even understand how it works? I thought it means you can only spend what you bring within a financial year so April to April and if I remember correctly city made over 100 million so within FFP rules there is no problem with these transfers though they could have got Navas and Fernandinho for 20 million less combined.
My understand of FFP is that you can only make a certain amount of losses over the 3 years from 2012 to 2015. Losses which City exceeded already last season, I am sure.
Monaco are going to make gargantuan losses, as are PSG. No idea how any of these clubs are going to comply. Clearly they know something we don't.
Monaco are going to make gargantuan losses, as are PSG. No idea how any of these clubs are going to comply. Clearly they know something we don't.
Overprice is not in the financial fair play spirit. It forces other clubs with smaller budgets to pay more, every year and it prevents them from progress.
This is the reason why teams like Everton can't storm into the Champions League.
But this also includes wages, bonuses, transfer fees etc etc. Last year they made a loss of £93.4 million. They are only allowed to have losses of £40 million over a 3 year period.
I see so in the next two years overall they need to be plus 50 million?
Transfer confirmed.
Could this be their attacking line up next season?
---Fernandinho ---Toure
---Nevas ----Silva-----Aguero---
---------Cavani???--------
Could this be their attacking line up next season?
---Fernandinho ---Toure
---Nevas ----Silva-----Aguero---
---------Cavani???--------
Nope, it doesn't have enough balance in midfield to work. You need someone more defensive than Fernandinho or Toure as both like to go forward and I'm not sure either has the discipline to keep things tight in midfield. I also don't think they'll be buying Cavani, I think he's Chelsea bound.
£30m+ seems like a lot of money for a player from Ukrainian league, especially as I don't really recall many who transfered to top European clubs from over there and have done particularly well in the last few years. Then again Shakhtar have hardly been a selling club lately.
Maybe. This might also be a possibility:
---Fernandinho ---Toure
---Nevas ----Silva-----Isco---
---------Aguero--------
---Fernandinho ---Toure
---Nevas ----Silva-----Isco---
---------Aguero--------
Is he really 28? Seems bizarre that they've paid such a massive amount for him, if he's so good why was he at Shakhtar up to this point in his career?
Again, you need a defensive midfielder in there with them, and preferably it won't be Barry, Garcia or Rodwell.
Both decent players but not really league-winning quality, and they've overpaid badly. Basically their business so far this summer has been better than last season, but hardly as impressive as the Silva/Toure summer.
I think Navas will do very well for them simply because they're crying out for a proper winger. You don't have to be a world beater to look good in such a gaping vacancy.
I think Navas will do very well for them simply because they're crying out for a proper winger. You don't have to be a world beater to look good in such a gaping vacancy.
If Tevez and Dzeko are in fact off it could pave the way for Toure to permanently play in the attacking midfield role, meaning Fernandinho will be playing central midfield with one of Barry or Rodwell (I'm assuming he's a Garcia replacement)
I wonder if Pellegrini will persist with Barry or Garcia on the defensive side, or whether they will be go with someone else.
City will no doubt buy a striker, other than Cavani and Falcao, (who they have missed out on), who do you think they will go for?
Yeah I agree, will be interesting to see how he makes that, undoubtedly step up, to the premier league next year. He had some good performances in the CL over the past few years but this will be a whole new challenge with a fairly big transfer fee.
Is the £34m accurate? Crazy money if true.
I think they apparently have lowered the fee from around 42 million
Why not just play Aguero up front and buy a strong striker as a replacement for Dzeko who is just a back up right now? Then again Tevez also seems to be close to a departure so it might mean they'll need not one but two forwards. I don't think playing Aguero behind is such a good idea to be honest, he's the best up top.
Fernandinho would be a Toure replacement but they're not really that much apart in terms of age so I can't really get why they felt the need to go after him at that price.
30 odd million for a 28 year old, who's also unproven in the PL?
I sense another City flop on the cards.
I sense another City flop on the cards.
He seems fairly talented but the fee is excessive. They could arguably do with an extra man in midfield but there are other areas that they'll really need to look into strengthening. Still though, £34m is pocket change to their owners so if they want to buy more players then it's hardly going to be a problem for them.
@Sarni
You are probably right with regards to Aguero's best position, and thinking about it more Pellegrini will probably persist with him up top on his own. Perhaps as someone else has pointed out above Isco will be more of a realistic player to play on the left, with Nevas on the right and Silva in the middle.
I do though think they will go after Cavani however.
You are probably right with regards to Aguero's best position, and thinking about it more Pellegrini will probably persist with him up top on his own. Perhaps as someone else has pointed out above Isco will be more of a realistic player to play on the left, with Nevas on the right and Silva in the middle.
I do though think they will go after Cavani however.
I wouldn't really be looking to replicate Barca in their transfer dealings. They haven't really got that good a record in recent years.
If they want a top striker then Cavani is an obvious choice but who does that leave Chelsea with? They both need a top class forward and with Falcao gone to Monaco there'll only be Cavani available in the Summer (unless Suarez moves to one of them but I think he's Madrid bound), and a variety of very good but not world class forwards like Negredo, Soldado etc.
Reckon City will make quite a bit of money when they sell players. Surely Dzeko (Dortmund rumoured to be interested, depending on the Lewandowski saga), Sinclair, Tevez, maybe even Barry or Nasri are on their way out. Juventus are apparently interested in Tevez, they could afford a decent fee. £34m is crazy money though, they could've had him for maybe £25m taking into account that Shakthar have a rich sugardaddy too.
Good signing for them. The word is he is a lot like Ramires, but more technical ability.
By the time Mourinho finally arrives he will have Lukaku, Torres, Ba and more than likely Schurrle as his front four striking options. I think if he decides to sell either Torres or Ba, sends Lukaku out on loan, then I suspect he is planning for a striker. I think it depends on that really, it may be a straight run between City and Chelsea for Cavani.
30 million 
so, city deciding to buy another league title.
Absolutely mental price to pay.
They're strengthening their squad by signing players in positions they feel they need to add to. Many people here want us to splash out on a top central midfielder but wouldn't say that we're "buying the league".
Reserve judgement until I see him play I suppose, can't comment on the fee being excessive due to the league being Ukr though? Someone pointed out that not many have made it, but to be fair that's not to say he wont.
Also, 34 million is a lot, but at 28 they could still easily get 5/6 seasons and who knows, he could hit the floor running... They have the money to replace him if he doesn't though....
Also, 34 million is a lot, but at 28 they could still easily get 5/6 seasons and who knows, he could hit the floor running... They have the money to replace him if he doesn't though....