Fergie to let Rooney go?

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The story has some truth behind it but discussions had been tentative and have not involved the player, hence the clubs immediate denial. Rooney could be off though, sooner than he thinks...

Do you actually expect people to take stuff you say seriously? Or are you posting as some kind of cunning satire that goes over most of our heads?
 
The story as it ran:
Ferguson willing to sell Rooney during transfer window - Premier League - Football - The Independent

and the background piece
Nobody is bigger than the boss

While Ferguson has shown in the past he is prepared to give way when dealing with star players – his initial reaction to Eric Cantona's lunge into the crowd at Selhurst Park was to sack him – there is a line he, and any other manager, must draw. When a senior player becomes mutinous he has to be moved on. Otherwise he will become the focus of a negative clique in the dressing room, and a bad example on the training ground. The latter aspect is crucial at United. A hunger for success is not easy to sustain. For years Ferguson has succeeded in driving United on to title after title, and one of the means by which he has done so is through a training ground culture in which senior players set the lead. Keane, Gary Neville, Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs ... all outstanding trainers, as were Cantona and Beckham.

New players, and youth players, join United, see how hard the stars work, and follow suit. Giggs is still there, but the others are gone and Rooney is now one of the senior pros. At a time when United's young players have been accused of being complacent Ferguson cannot allow a diminution of commitment. That Ferguson felt he had to discipline Evans and Gibson, too, will not have helped Rooney's cause. It may be Ferguson has decided Rooney has to go because of his stature, not despite it.

The discussion of which might fit better in the main Rooney thread than here.
 
To release a statement this late hour and also over a story in the paper is very wierd.

Not really. The cub will have had a phone call warning them it was coming and asking them to comment. Rather than the usual, "There's no truth in it," says a United spokesman, - they rang round the interested parties and came up with a joint statement.
 
Do you actually expect people to take stuff you say seriously? Or are you posting as some kind of cunning satire that goes over most of our heads?

You will struggle to find anything that I have posted that has not been true at the time of writing.
 
Its ridiculous and bizzare the club and Rooney have issued statements almost immediately after the article appeared. Normally these sort of things get brushed off by Fergie in his Friday pressers.
 
I cannot predict the future I can only report what I understand to be the truth at a particular point in time. Take this as a general caveat such that I don't have to put a disclaimer on all my posts, then just remember where you heard it first(or put me on ignore)
 
You just can't please some people. If the club had said nothing we'd have a bunch of people saying they should release a statement.

Stick to the soaps for your drama ladies.
 
Normally it's when the club bothers issuing denials that I get a little worried and feel there's something to the story.

Not so much this time. There's just been so much Rooney in the papers over the last few days that I can see why both club and player would try to kill this even before it's been published.
 
You will struggle to find anything that I have posted that has not been true at the time of writing.

For two games running you posted that Morrison or Pogba were set to feature. It didn't happen either time. I wouldn't mind but the second time it looked nailed on that one would feature and then you said they definitely would and next thing they're not even in the squad.
 
You will struggle to find anything that I have posted that has not been true at the time of writing.

:wenger:

That's like me claiming that United are set to buy Messi this Jan, and when it doesn't happen come Feb 1st, I'll just say "it was correct at the time I posted it" :lol:

I haven't come by you much tbh, but every time I see your alias it usually accompanies a post that screams "bullshit" to me. Like Nani to Inter etc if I remember rightly.
 
:wenger:

That's like me claiming that United are set to buy Messi this Jan, and when it doesn't happen come Feb 1st, I'll just say "it was correct at the time I posted it" :lol:

I haven't come by you much tbh, but every time I see your alias it usually accompanies a post that screams "bullshit" to me. Like Nani to Inter etc if I remember rightly.

It was true at the time though....
 
What's true at this time is i can't be arsed with these unfounded rumours, about Rooney, i've got enough on my plate with central midfield, to worry whether Rooney is going or not.

I call bollocks and put the matter to bed, until something more credible convinces me otherwise.
 
The story has some truth behind it but discussions had been tentative and have not involved the player, hence the clubs immediate denial. Rooney could be off though, sooner than he thinks...

You do realize not a single poster on this forum takes your misguided speculation as anything other than just that. You are just about the worst ITK I've ever seen, its not just your lack of any actual real information, but also the ridiculous persona you adopt, with an aura of confidence and credibility. I pretty much read your posts, and despite whatever I have previously thought, ill change it to the opposite of whatever you are saying. If football was a war, and you were captured as a prisoner of war, you would have zero value, and would be immediately executed over the screams of 'Rodwell will sign'.
 
You will struggle to find anything that I have posted that has not been true at the time of writing.

How about the majority of your posts? So when you post a bullshit transfer story claiming about 4 players are on the verge of signing, with the same number leaving, but nothing comes about what happens there then? I've never seen so much guesswork and bullshit compressed into a single post, until I read your transfer insider stories last year. I think we will just struggle to find anything that you have posted, that makes sense.
 
So now Rooney goes into another of his usual/inevitable form slumps after this for a month or two?

Nice!

That's what I fear... feckin hell there is nothing more frustrating then watching an out of form Rooney.
 
Do you actually expect people to take stuff you say seriously? Or are you posting as some kind of cunning satire that goes over most of our heads?

Always thought he was up to the latter, myself.

It's quite a revelation to find out that he's being serious.
 
We should be thankful we have a genuine ITK in our midst.
 
Its ridiculous and bizzare the club and Rooney have issued statements almost immediately after the article appeared. Normally these sort of things get brushed off by Fergie in his Friday pressers.

Normally, but the Friday presser was already done for the week, and on Sunday we play one of the biggest games of the season. Once the story is out it's just going to escalate with more and more speculation which wouldn't be good going into that game, so it's best that it was nipped in the bud as soon as possible. Like others, I didn't really expect a statement, especially so soon.

But from what others said about the radio show, the journalist pretty much admitted it was a lot of rubbish anyway.
 

I'll take that as decent news if true. But either way, this story always comes up and there is nothing in the article that has never already been said by every other stupid newspaper. They (The Independent) must be pissed about the statement.
 
But from what others said about the radio show, the journalist pretty much admitted it was a lot of rubbish anyway.

It's hard to tell, mate. I listened to the 5Live show, and Lawton appeared to do an impression of a stereotypical journalist - half-drunk, mentally dishevelled, and prone to rhetorical flights of fancy. On the face of it, the story now appears more like his opinion rather than a factual piece; however, Mr Lawton is reputed to be close to very senior sources at United, and has a generally good journalistic rep. amongst his colleagues. Reading between the lines, and judging by Sean_RedDevil's post about Stretford & Rooney, it could be that the story was (ostensibly) off-the-record, and deliberately leaked by United...possibly to attract bids for Rooney without actually stating he's available for transfer. But this is only speculation, of course.
 
Addenda:

The Independent has gone ahead with publication of the story. Not far beneath a photo of Rooney shaking hands with Sir Alex as Wayne left the field at SJP, this appears:

'It had plainly not abated when he called Rooney off the field at Newcastle on Wednesday night, clearly disgusted by an abject performance from the England forward.'

Good grief...:wenger:

One commenter on the article suggested that The Independent donate James Lawton to the Girl Guides for a forthcoming jumble sale; no wonder.
 
If Rooney goes who will replace him? I don't think Rooney has his head with the team but we need good players and if he goes the team will lose is best player.

What gives you that impression?
 
Wait, what? Hasn't Rooney and the club already stated that the player isn't going anywhere?

This is a nothing story - suprised the thread is still open to be honest.
 
FT's 'ITK's' have been quite brilliant to be fair...

Nani's defiantely going to Inter ----> Nani stayed at United
Rodwell will definately sign for United -----> Rodwell stayed at Everton
Morrison and Pogba will defiantely feature ----> Neither played (This happened twice iirc)

Didn't he claim Snjeider was a done deal too?
 
FT's 'ITK's' have been quite brilliant to be fair...

Nani's defiantely going to Inter ----> Nani stayed at United
Rodwell will definately sign for United -----> Rodwell stayed at Everton
Morrison and Pogba will defiantely feature ----> Neither played (This happened twice iirc)

Didn't he claim Snjeider was a done deal too?

Yes. Part exchange for Nani.
 
If these rumours have a hint of truth to them, then it really does make me wonder if Fergie always had plans to get rid of Rooney. When he originally wanted to leave, Fergie may have realised that to win the 19th title, we needed him. Rooney did return to form, and was the driving force behind us winning the title. Perhaps though, Fergie planned to get rid of him after that, when it was time for the side to be completely re-built. Could that time be now?
 
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