Fergie In A £25m Bid For Rooney

VanNistlerater said:
I agree. So many people squirm over 3 or 4 million quid extra, when to United, its not all that much if it means securing the deal of a player they desperately want.

It would be strange having Rooney though, given how much abuse our fans give him and the abuse he's given back. But if he wants to come, he would be extremely welcome, as he would with most clubs in the world, certainly in England.
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did we ever boo Rooney before his tackle on Ronaldo? when i saw him do that i lost a lot of respect i had for the kid. we booed Keano at OT when he was with Forest and he signed for us at the end of the season so i dunno. i just dont think Rooney would accept not being the most exciting young player at the club. he showed that on Ronaldo
 
i think the rooney we would see in 5 years should he sign for chelsea would be quite a different rooney from the one if he went to united.
he's a quiet lad but london would be the ruin of him imo
 
LenSharkey said:
i think the rooney we would see in 5 years should he sign for chelsea would be quite a different rooney from the one if he went to united.
he's a quiet lad but london would be the ruin of him imo
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It would be a superb move for Rooney IMO, and could work well for United too. Fergie has all the experience needed to keep him on the right track. A move to anywhere else, or no move at all would be detrimental to his football career and life in general. At the moment, he is a Gazza waiting to happen. £25,000,000? - to be honest, the money means nothing to me anymore.
 
What a great thread! The normal Davo/AEBM vs devilish argument, but then, EZee comes out of no where and completely destroys devilish. Amazing.

;)
 
Dubai_Devil said:
What a great thread! The normal Davo/AEBM vs devilish argument, but then, EZee comes out of no where and completely destroys devilish. Amazing.

;)
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Yeah, awesome work by EZee.

EeeeZzzzzzzzzeeeeee! EeeeZzzzzzzzzeeeeee! EeeeZzzzzzzzzeeeeee!

(oh I know you are all joining in the Big Daddy chant)
 
MrMarcello said:
And by then, Newcastle might have a sugar daddy. In fact, it would not surprise me if half the Premiership clubs are owned outright versus PLC.
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Yeah. All the drug lords, russian mafia and what not criminals will be owning the clubs. The next step will be match fixing.
The EPL will be almost be as genuine as WWF.
 
Red Dreams said:
Yeah. All the drug lords, russian mafia and what not criminals will be owning the clubs. The next step will be match fixing.
The EPL will be almost be as genuine as WWF.
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I had no idea that the World Wildlife Foundation was so corrupt! :eek:
 
Red Dreams said:
:lol: Yeah that too.....F**king World Wrestling Federation.
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I thought they changed their name to WWE or something? :confused:
 
EZee said:
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/player.asp?plid=13017&clid=&s=0203

started 47 games... 15 goals

you said the only 3 strikers you would have spent 25 million on at 18 included henry... thats bollocks he had not even started a game up front for monaco then... SO YOU ARE A LIAR or you have better football knowledge than wenger + furguson etc (I seriousley doubt that)

rooney has been played on the right hand side of midfield this season or withdrawn from the attack if you actually watched the games...

as for adraiano... didnt inter just pay 27million euros for half of his contract http://www.soccerage.com/en/13/s7665.html ... not being funny but if you think rooney is worth £10 million how does adriano become worth £36.5 million when you consider he is 3 years older... rooney still has more international goals than him (adriano got 2 in the confeds cup and thats all so far isnt it)... Adriano is a fine player but where was he when he was 18?... flamengo right... 60 games & 20 goals... not entirley different to rooneys record is it? only rooney has done it in the PL... oh and rooney is more of a link player than an out and out striker... yet £10 million is a gamble for rooney but you would get adriano who just cost £36.5 million:wenger:


you say good players dont put on weight... you obviousley never saw maradona and havent seen ronaldo in a real shirt... does that make them bad players???

As for never playing agresivley??? Hughes, Cantona, Keane, Robson spring to mind as Mau U players who were agressive and I think it actually added to their game.

Rooney is not a quick player... he never will be but his brain is very sharp and his technique is great... combined with his strength gives him the chance to become a fantastic player if you cant see that your blind.

who are these better young players we could get?

as you think we could get rooney for 10 million what better 18 year olds can we get with proven track records for that price...
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A) I brought you the link from Opta soccer, a link which I have fount into the Everton official site.

B) I had already answered you that

C) I watch enough football to know that at 25m you buy a young world class player and not someone who takes him 15 games to score 4 goals. Someone whose attitude push him to kill players in the pitch and who whose access weight's problem seems growing by the minute. There is so many things that are needed to be done to make Rooney a world class player and I wouldn’t spent 25m to get a package who has yet to show consistency in the league.

D) Adriano’s inflated price was the result of Inter Milan’s bad strategy. If you watch football (real football not only the local pond) you would know that Adriano was once Inter Milan’s player but that they sold half his share (one of the most foolish things ever done in football history) to Parma. It was natural than, with the boy getting better by the minute that his price would raise higher and higher. Neverlhess its ridiculous to compare Adriano with Rooney. One is now a renowned world class player who is scoring bucket loads of goals with Inter, the other is a promising player who is struggling to keep a place with Everton. BTW tell me Eazie who told you that I would have spent such an enormous sum of money for an 18 year old Adriano?

E) I don’t know why Eezee but if you haven’t notice Maradona’s access of weight (due to drug addiction) and Cantona’s agressivity nearly costed their careers. If you haven’t noticed, these are not qualities but weaknesses. Ok the players mentioned above did had a brilliant career despite all their problems (which at the end of the day had hindered their career) and that is due to the fact that they possessed a rare class. Rooney is good but personally I would wait before comparing Rooney with these football legends. And until then, I think that Rooney’s “spoiled boy’s” aggressivity and serious access of weight should be seen as serious problems.

F) Tell me when have I critized Rooney’s talent?

G) Personally I don’t think that we need to spend 25m on the forward line, surely not after investing 40 m to have this current forward line. With an average age of 27 years I don’t see the need of bringing in a young striker at outrageous sums of money. I mean Id rather invest on the defense (making it strong enough to allow us to play with two forwards rather than one) rather than on the front line, were RVN, Saha, Forlan and Ole are capable of doing a magnificent job.

H) What is all this fetishness with the 18 years old players? If I cannot assure myself a good 18 years old striker at a realistic price then Ill would go for someone a bit older. Personally I prefer a 23 year old Ole at 1.5m rather than an 18 year old Rooney at 25m
 
EZee said:
would you pay 18 million more to get a dutch bloke with a knee injury than it cost to get cantona from leeds?
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Yes I would sign one of the hottest strikers in the world, even though he had a long but one of the most common injuries in football. Expecially when there is a bigger chance nowadays for Torquay United to win the CL rather than having a player's career ruined by a cruciate ligament injury.
 
We have Saha, Ruud, Solksjaer, Scholes, Forlan, Ronaldo, Giggs, Bellion, Nardiello, Timm, Wood, Puustien, Poole, Dong Fangzhou...
Why need Rooney?
 
I hope we buy Rooney - a tremendous talent, who's already thrived in this league and will help us keep a British core in the team.

Not bothered how much we pay for him, as I know we wouldn't pay anything that we couldn't afford.
 
It really is an utter disgrace that some people here are even mentioning Rooneys name next to Maradona!!. I for one would be happy we dont buy him and anyway we dont need him, let him go to chelski!!.
 
dont think we will get him but if we did i think it would be a great signing. ppl are bringing up his performances for everton as a basis for their opinion but look at how good rooney is for england when he has world class players around him and im not to sure nut i think his goal record for england is pretty impressive for an 18 year old
 
i'd imagine there would be quite a number of teams that would bite everton's hand off if they were offering rooney for 10 million, though 25 seems a bit high given the other talent going (if you believe the papers) for less than that (vdv, joaquin, etc). 15-20 sounds more appropriate.

anyone saying that rooney is having a hard time breaking into everton's first team is obviously not paying attention - there is no one on that team performing better than him right now. if he doesn't start a match, it's not because he isn't better than who is.

this being said, i don't see how he fits into united's plans.
 
The main corps of the team is aging and it's obvious SAF sees this and is building a new group of Fergie's fledglings. Not sure how many top class seasons we can expect from these older players. Most probably have 2-3 for sure, but Keano, Giggsy, and Ole are hitting 30+. Ages by 31 Aug:

Ruud - 28
Ole - 31
Scholes - 29 (30 in November)
Keane - 33 (might retire)
Giggs- 30 (31 in November)
Gazza - 29
Butt- 29 (probably leaving)

There are many players under age 27 and in defense, Micky and Rio are just entering the prime of their career. One could argue that Phil, age 27, is entering the prime of his career too.

So, signing experienced young players with talent as well as teenagers for the youth academy is a sound plan. Someone like Rooney, whether United have too many strikers at the moment or not, would find a way to fit in the side given the talent he possesses. However, I doubt he is a top priority this summer, but it would not shock me if SAF asked about his availability. Rooney knows Everton will never achieve much and a move to a top 4 club in England (or Italy or Spain) is imperative for his maturation into a world class player.
 
Personally I don’t see the need of signing Rooney. I mean RVN has still at least 4 – 5 good years left in him while Forlan and Saha will reach their peak only in 5 years time. The only “veteran” left in our forward line seems to be Ole. But at 31 Ole has at least 2 good years left in him and by that time I think that Eagles would be old enough to replace Ronaldo on the flank and therefore enabling the Portuguese to move up in the forward line. Not to forget Bellion, Gomez and Timm, that by that time one of them would be good enough to act at least as our forth striker! We have time at our side and we should use that time to search for other options rather than spend 25m for someone who would struggle to breach the Saha – RVN partnership.

Rooney had reached a stage that he is bound to become a good player. But becoming a world-class player is a much different story. I confess that my 10m rating was a bit too low (considering that we are Manchester United and considering that Rooney is English) but I wouldn’t go further than the 15m rating. Mind you Rooney is good but spending 25M on someone who has yet to become a world class player is too much of a gamble. Remember that few years ago we used the same thing about an 18 year old called Joe Cole, yet would you spend 25m now for him?

Id rather use that money to strenghten the defense so that it would enable to play with 2 forwards rather than 1. But that is my opinion.
 
Cole was being mentioned as a future United target too...around the 12-15m bracket if I remember correctly. And some Brits on here were applauding him as the next great English player.

Who is Gomez?
 
I say we go for Rooney. 25 million...NO!!! even in an inflated market & the Man Utd tax.
10-12million YES PLEASE for he has at least 10-12years in him which makes out to about 1million pound a year. His wages won't be exorbitant being a youngster.maybe 50K/week maximum.Even if he is sold, we can get some outlay on him a la Veron.

But if we have to fork out 25 million pounds for 1 Rooney, I will probably prefer using the money to get a defender(maybe Mexes 10 million pounds & van Robben/Schneider as a replacement for Giggs @ 15 million pounds).We already have Saha as Ruud's partner/replacement. A winger for Giggs and a defender should be our key areas to shore up in the close season :devil:
 
devilish said:
Personally I don’t see the need of signing Rooney. I mean RVN has still at least 4 – 5 good years left in him while Forlan and Saha will reach their peak only in 5 years time. The only “veteran” left in our forward line seems to be Ole. But at 31 Ole has at least 2 good years left in him and by that time I think that Eagles would be old enough to replace Ronaldo on the flank and therefore enabling the Portuguese to move up in the forward line. Not to forget Bellion, Gomez and Timm, that by that time one of them would be good enough to act at least as our forth striker! We have time at our side and we should use that time to search for other options rather than spend 25m for someone who would struggle to breach the Saha – RVN partnership.

Rooney had reached a stage that he is bound to become a good player. But becoming a world-class player is a much different story. I confess that my 10m rating was a bit too low (considering that we are Manchester United and considering that Rooney is English) but I wouldn’t go further than the 15m rating. Mind you Rooney is good but spending 25M on someone who has yet to become a world class player is too much of a gamble. Remember that few years ago we used the same thing about an 18 year old called Joe Cole, yet would you spend 25m now for him?

Id rather use that money to strenghten the defense so that it would enable to play with 2 forwards rather than 1. But that is my opinion.
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:lol:

i forgot what an idiot dev was about saying rooney was overpriced...

but bellion... ffs
 
EZee said:
:lol:

i forgot what an idiot dev was about saying rooney was overpriced...

but bellion... ffs
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Well some rated Bellion and others rated Spector....;)


https://www.redcafe.net/f6/there-another-class-92-a-46467/#post754372

Spector looked very good at the youtth world cup last year...

very composed on the ball, quick and strong in the tackle...

I would hope to at least see him on the bench a few times next year...

At least Bellion ended up a great hit and Bordeaux scoring 12 goals in 37 games. What had Spector achieved?
 
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