Fellaini
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Interesting to read positive comments about him from last season before SAF left and we knew Moyes would be taking over (random selection above). If SAF was still here and he signed Fellaini, most would say it was a solid signing.
I think its fair to say we also need a more creative type player too. But I think anti Fellaini comments are to do with Moyes the manager rather than the player himself.
Honestly I have more faith in Moyes sorting the CM issue then SAF. SAF is a living legend however I never understood why he kept buying wingers, strikers and defenders when CM was screaming for new talent.
I dont think thats the case at all.
For example what you posted there from me is talking about Fellaini used in the same way as at Everton, not DM. I still stand by that, he's a terror in that second striker role. The question is do we want to buy him and play him there? Most would say no
To be fair to SAF, he did plan for the long term when he signed Hargreaves, Anderson and had the young emerging Fletcher into his squad in summer of 2007. For various reasons during the next 5 year none of these prospects worked out as he'd hoped.
Probably 2 seasons ago, he should have conceded defeat in that 2007 midfield succession plan (I have never understood the Ashley Young signing) but I think the cafe is overly harsh on SAF in this matter.
feck it, lets sign him as a 2nd striker then. At least it will be a signing (Im cracking under muppet pressure!).
More seriously, I think that's even more reason why we should get him. Would be great for us when we are chasing a game in the final 10 minutes and can throw him forward to give us an extra option. Kagawa will run onto his knock downs all day long.
In my opinion emotions were starting taking over our SAF's judgement. He still won great honors, mainly because he knew how the EPL worked inside out. However a number of decisions he made (keeping Gaz for at least 1 year longer then he should and not strengthening CM) were biased to say the least. CM must have been a very delicate issue for him since it impacted at least 3 of his kids (Scholes, Giggs and Fletch). I cant really blame him. These people had been at OT since they were kids. They were the backbone of our and SAF's success. Whose got the balls to tell them to pack their things and retire? Certainly not me!
Moyes is no SAF however he's desperate for success. His very existence at OT depends on it. That's why I have more faith in him sorting this issue then SAF.
I guess. But for £22 million I think a cleverer, more subtle way would be available
and I wouldnt be surprised if Moyes is excited about finding that. Fellaini's efforts were a blinder for Everton on a tight budget, but now we can go after whoever he wants I would think/hope we'd go somewhere else.But yes I absolutely maintain that no defence will enjoy playing up against Fellaini in his striker role. Partly because it involves taking an elbow to the face
I guess. But for £22 million I think a cleverer, more subtle way would be available
But yes I absolutely maintain that no defence will enjoy playing up against Fellaini in his striker role. Partly because it involves taking an elbow to the face
Who is that then? (assuming you don't mean Fabregas)
Well I'm not a professional scout, but we signed Kagawa for less than that and he likes to play there. Players like that are what I mean. Not Peter crouch
There are plenty of midfielder available, like Brazilian internation Hernanes who is a 28 year old cm with brilliant dribbling and goal scoring ability and has been doing really well at Lazio for the last three years. Also there is Jordy Clasie of Feyenoord, he may be too young but still would add to your midfield.
And the fact he seems to be targeting proven premier league talent doesn't come into the equation at all does it?
I dont think we can quite jump to that conclusion just yet. Yes Fabregas is obviously premiership proven, but he's also one of the best CMs in the world. There's every reason to think we'd still have gone for him had he never played in the premier league.
Other than that there's the bid for Baines, which it doesnt sound like we've followed up on. But thats simply a player at his former club.
If we are indeed going after proven premier league players I'd imagine our next calls are about Sandro and Cabaye rather than Fellaini. Mind you if their fees are going to be more excessive than Fellaini's clause, he could end up being a better option. But that would take huge asking prices for Cabaye and Sandro
I think who he's not gone for rather than who he has seems to be an indication that he wants prem players. If it's true then it kind of makes sense in his first year to make things as easy as possible.
It's pure 100% speculation though and could be wrong.
Someone mailed me saying Fellaini was asked about his clauses and he said there are some, but not to do with price.
Is this release clause a myth?
Is this release clause a myth?
Who'd send you that in the mail?
So Human Mic is a no-go either. OMG we are doomed
Can anyone tell me again why Fellaini is a better option as partner and cover for Carrick than Cabaye would be? Then same question with Sandro and Schneiderlin.
I still think we'll buy 2 midfielders just have some patience, Fellaini being one of them is great!
He's a better player than Cabaye but perhaps I think that because I don't rate Cabaye that much, I think he's a pretty ordinary player. Fellaini I consider one of the best midfielders in the league not playing for a top 4 side, physically he's a beast.
Well Cabaye does more defensively and is a better passer. Fellaini is obviously a great threat in the air, Cabaye is a great threat from freekicks and set pieces and scores more goals from central midfield. Cabaye may not stand out but he ticks all the boxes for the role better than Fellaini does because a lot of what made Fellaini so successful last season he can only contribute from playing behind the striker.
Depends. We definitely dont need 2 of those listed.
I don't think Cabaye is better than him defensively at all, Fellaini has a good positioning sense and is very strong, his tackling isn't bad either. He must be really difficult to play against I imagine.
McCarthy for me is better than either, at least potential wise.
Cabaye makes the most tackles for Newcastle. He's been that way for 2 seasons now. I dont remember Fellaini's actual numbers from the season before last, but I do remember that Cabaye was the player people were talking about us going for. Not Fellaini. Not until this season when he played a different role
Edit - I tell a lie, we can roll back whoscored and see that Cabaye made 3.4 tackles and 2.6 interceptions per game the season before last, while Fellaini only made 2.9 and 1.6 respectively.
Ha, now we have a scouser waving his willy in excitement over the fall of United. Don't get too excited, you're still managed by Brenton.
Carrick-Gibson-Fellaini
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That would be..uhm..tall.
Sandro? From spurs? Hes not a better option than fellaini, purely because he would probably cost us at least £30 million
If Fellaini is £22 million I'd take Sandro at £30 million any day of the week.
Sandro's a beast, id rather have dembele if we were raiding spurs though
Personally I would have preferred Fellaini to Sandro even if Sandro is 5m cheaper. Dembele on the other side is better than Fellaini IMO.
Fellaini and James McCarthy would make our midfield options much stronger, even though they wouldn't necessarily be glamour signings. We'll probably end up with Fabregas and Modric, though.
Essentially, it seems to me the only reason you are linked with Fellaini is because Moyes used to manage him. There has literally not been a single credible source that attaches his name to Man United.
Is there going to come a point where maybe people will start to realise that maybe you don't actually want him?
Is there going to come a point where maybe people will start to realise that maybe you don't actually want him?
We'll probably end up with Fabregas and Modric, though.
As long as we don't end with Xavi and Iniesta we'll be fine.
Wow. So you'd rather spend £5 million more for a lesser player in DM
Sandro is the best DM in the league.
Dont be silly, there are United fans with Strootman and Fellaini on the back of their shirts already in anticipation for our new midfield duo.
Whats that? Roma? Must be a different Strootman. Common name in Holland
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