Fellaini
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Yeah. Everton's lack of quality up front, meant he has been used there, but make no mistake, he is a midfielder.
What I'm referring to is that it is perceived as predictable, that Moyes sticks with what he knows. Couple that with the usual "World's best" wish-list, we have every window, and it would be viewed as disappointing by many fans.
That is from 10th June
Fellaini just please no!
Not United quality
Not United quality
Not as good as Cleverley, Anderson, Powell, Jones, Half a Fletcher?
Erm....OK!
Have we even been linked with him...
Are you saying that Fellaini have changed so much since June?
No just in case anyone took the "Arsenal activating the release clause" story serious.
He may have had a hair cut!
He is better than the others except Carrick but at the same time at over £20m he would be quite expensive. If we could get him in at the same time as a more creative player that would be great but as our main signing I don't think it would be that good because I think we'd still be missing that creativity from a deeper role. We'd be more defensively strong, but then as I've said before I'm not sure if his style would cause him issues in the CL. I suppose if he were brought in as Carricks eventual replacement that would be good but as I said I think we'd still need a creative player.
Not that I know of, and if it was happening, the clause would mean it would likely have happened already.
This is just a discussion on how such a shit player as Fellaini, constantly gives the big teams kittens, including us.
Poor argument, yes he is better than some you mentioned but he still isn't the quality of player we should be going for. For a few years now we have been ignoring our lackluster midfield but that doesn't mean we just sign anyone who's a small improvement...
We should be chasing either top quality midfielders or young players with great potential, the EPL in general is lacking top midfielders barring a few at other top 4 clubs.
I just don't think Fellaini is the guy for us, the things he excels at are not things we do as a team, I'd much rather us go after Cabaye if this is the level of player we're looking to sign.
Your opinion is as valid as mine.
That quote is in response to
I maintain he would improve us, and I'd opine that he'd improve us more than Cabaye, for that matter.
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I have given my reasons why I think he'd be a good fit for us. This does not preclude us from buying another player, with differing qualities.
That quote is in response to
If you think me pointing out our deficiencies excluding Carrick is wrong, then argue that.
I maintain he would improve us, and I'd opine that he'd improve us more than Cabaye, for that matter.
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I have given my reasons why I think he'd be a good fit for us. This does not preclude us from buying another player, with differing qualities.
Fellaini will more than likely be our only midfield signing which is not too bad considering the likes of powell and cleverley will be much stronger in a year or two and pushing for first team spots
He ll add some steel to our midfield...
I don't think Powell will be anywhere near the first team. Has he had a look-in during pre-season?
Hoping to God that Cleverley and Anderson bring some much needed consistency. We've been hoping for that for a while though...
Indeed
Isn't he injured?
Definitely. There'll be no posts saying that he needs to "bulk up"
He could probably do with bulking up though.
Not sure. Just know I haven't heard any comments about him.
If he's missed pre-season, he's not likely to get a look in this season, especially as he still has a fair bit of developing to do. I think he'll end up going on loan somewhere.
Think he is a better player than a lot are giving him credit for he'd easily improve our team in centre midfield. Fabregas is better but hence the price. Would be a quality signing IMHO.
Funny thing is, if you look back at this thread, there was a lot more positivity about Fellaini. People even saying that £30 million would be what we'd pay.
Now, at £22m, in an inflated market, there seems to be more negativity. And now we have his former boss!
Now, at £22m, in an inflated market, there seems to be more negativity. And now we have his former boss!
I think back then we weren't expecting to be in for players like Cesc... Having made an offer for him and being rejected, Fellaini seems like a massive step down and only marginally better than what we have, in my opinion at least.
Are we honestly in a position where the best midfielder we can bring to united is Fellaini. I think we can do better.
I'd rather have gravy today, than the promise of steak tomorrow.
If we go into next season "as is", we are vulnerable in MF, especially if Carrick gets injured.
There is nothing to prevent us buying someone else.
If we go into next season "as is", we are vulnerable in MF, especially if Carrick gets injured.
There is nothing to prevent us buying someone else.
Who the hell said £30m would be a good price or the price we will be paying for him?
This is not a sustainable attitude to take.
On a general note, I disagree with the opinion (and it seems widespread) that we need to aim higher than "the likes of" Fellaini. What we need is to add a couple of players to our CM alternatives: Provide cover for Carrick and competition for Cleverley. We're short in numbers - that's the fact. At least it is a fact when you start to regard our players in a more conventional way: Fergie regarded both Giggs and Jones as plausible back-up players, but Moyes (a mere mortal by comparison) can't afford to do this.
The man has three proper options in the middle. That isn't enough. Not least when one of these three is the perma-troubled Ando (who in my opinion is a converted AM anyway, and bearing all the signs of it - but let's leave that for now). The first order of business should be to bring in a couple of competent alternatives. I'll even go as far as saying that at this point - only three weeks till the season kicks off now - I would be relieved to see just about anyone brought in.
That's going too far, of course. There's no point in buying shite just to make up the numbers. But if we get in Fellaini, that's a good start. Then add some up and coming player (as I've said before, McCarthy looks a prospect) who can go in and compete with Cleverley. He would benefit from that, I think: Make him work that extra bit harder on improving. Plus, if we don't buy a soul he - Cleverley - will have a tremendous amount of pressure on him. Our hopes would bloody well rest on the lad. I'm not sure he's ready for that.
The man has three proper options in the middle. That isn't enough. Not least when one of these three is the perma-troubled Ando (who in my opinion is a converted AM anyway, and bearing all the signs of it - but let's leave that for now). The first order of business should be to bring in a couple of competent alternatives. I'll even go as far as saying that at this point - only three weeks till the season kicks off now - I would be relieved to see just about anyone brought in.
That's going too far, of course. There's no point in buying shite just to make up the numbers. But if we get in Fellaini, that's a good start. Then add some up and coming player (as I've said before, McCarthy looks a prospect) who can go in and compete with Cleverley. He would benefit from that, I think: Make him work that extra bit harder on improving. Plus, if we don't buy a soul he - Cleverley - will have a tremendous amount of pressure on him. Our hopes would bloody well rest on the lad. I'm not sure he's ready for that.
Why would he cost £30m when he has a release clause of £22m?
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Because it wasn't known about then?
We have to take into account that Everton bought him for €22m (around £15m at the time). So I wouldn't say £22m is that unacceptable after five successful seasons in the PL.
That was back when we watched our midfield week in week out and were worried they were unable to stop a bus.
Now we want Fabregas and Thiago, who won't change that at all, but are the sort of player we should aspire to have.
When Stewart Downing goes for 20M, he is a steal.
Whooosh!!Comparing Fellaini at Everton with Downing at Liverpool?
If we signed this big guy he become a cult hero would be a quality signing for us exactly what we need for certain games. He's better on the ball than people are given him credit for very physical what we lack and powerful for and against a set pieces itch a little nastiness to go exactly what we need IMO! Sign him up Mr Moyes!
Our defensive troubles coincided with Rio being awful. Obviously later on in the season he played a lot better and received plaudits, but early on he was completely out of it. And while Evans was playing better, he wasn't able to make up for Rio's worrying form
Not the full story. Our defence was constantly exposed.
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