How tall do you reckon Fellaini is with his hair? Like 7'6 or something?
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He would definitely get sent off at least once a year in the CL.
Also players like Iniesta or Kroos would completely mug him off.
Thing is, it's not just a perception that he fouls a lot, he does actually foul a lot. I don't see what he would add. I think a release clause of GBP23m is taking the piss,
He is suppose to be 6ft 4in but you can add another 8 inches due to his mop.
I'll see your Gervinho and raise you Bebe.
I will be devestated if we spend close to what we spent on RVP and Rooney for him. It's such a fecking waste of money. I would literally rather put Nicky Butt back in the team.
If we add quality around him and pay no more than £12m i'll be happy. But we're gonna bid at least £18m for him i think.
I will raise you Francis Jeffers
I used the GBP23m simply to say he's not worth that. Actually, I wouldn't sign him regardless.
If we have any pretensions to retaining the Prem and do better in the Champions League, we had better stop fecking around and buy a decent midfielder. Time is running out, despite those imbeciles that think there is "plenty" of time left. Look how long it took for the Thiago saga to end...unfavourably.
Well we could go on all day about the shit players we have/have bought, like Ramsey, who (thank christ we didn't get him in the end) is a steaming pile of dog-shit of a player. Just don't think Arsenal fans can really laugh at us in any way shape or form. At least if Fellaini ends up choosing you your push for the top 4 will get a much-needed boost next season i suppose.
Raise is right, he's long dead. I'll just show the Anderson and Hargreaves cards and scoop up the pot.
Ramsey walks into your midfield (especially when you buy Fellaini to play there).
Ramsey really is shite. Wilshere, good as he is, I can see being injured again and again and again...someone that young shouldn't miss that much football.
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We'll just show you the league tables from the past 6 years.
I don't get to understand the hate here, he is clearly better than most of our current midfielders bar Carrick.
The funny thing is that Gervinho is probably every bit as poor as Bebe, it's just that United have a better squad so we weren't forced to play him
sorry but thats just not true
The difference between them is fairly marginal. If Bebe played consistently for us he'd look like an amateur at times, but would chip in with goals. He's a good finisher.
No. Ramsey would be the worst midfielder in our entire set up if he was at our club. He's fecking woeful.
Hargreaves was quality, he's just a kneeless judas. A fit Anderson is also better than Ramsey.
Was it Crawley or someone (some non-league team) in the FA Cup a few years ago, with Bebe and Obertan on the wings, and they got completely mugged off by Crawley's defenders for the entire match? Gervinho is bad but he's not as bad as Bebe.
LOL, type 'The Bebe Crossing Show' into youtube. Hilarious.
Isn't Bebe's goalscoring record for us something like 2 goals in 7 games? he chips in with goals at reserve level (a few very quality finishes) and scored a couple on loan last season.
Yes he had a couple of absolute shockers in his debut season, and still looks amatuerish at times but he's around the Gervinho level. Overall poor but offers something with his pace, workrate, and finishing.
Gervinho at Lille was far, far better than anything Bebe has ever done. Gervinho at Arsenal is closer, but he's still obviously better.
most of the views on Fellaini in here are a bad joke
He's fecking awful mate. He offers absolutely nothing for me. He can't cross a ball, he can't pass, he's got no vision, his touch is shit and he has no footballing brain. Playing from the wing, if what we need is pace and workrate we shoulda actually signed Usain Bolt.
Him and Obertan, easily the worst buys of the last few years.
Fair enough. I think if you put Bebe in a team set up where he gets into positions to use his pace and gets chances to score he can reproduce that 'Gervinho at Lille' level. He is a very good finisher.
If you use him as a creative player like we did in his games Vs Wolves and Crawley you won't see the best of him (or at least you wouldn't in his debut season for us).
If you use him as a creative player like we did in his games Vs Wolves and Crawley you won't see the best of him (or at least you wouldn't in his debut season for us).
I'll be OK with this signing if we don't see afro wigs being worn to Old Trafford and his signing is alongside another midfielder of quality.
Forget about Bebe, Gervo was better than no-goals Young last season.
Because he's a quite a good player who'll improve us.
Remember that time Arsenal went to Bradford and didnt win?
Doesn't really matter us though. We won the title, you scraped 4th. We'll take a shit Young over a slightly better Gervinho last season if that was the end result.
He isn't good enough for us, ergo he was a bad signing.. but stop judging him on 2 performances in his debut season. He's better than what he was (obviously I really didn't see what the scouts saw in him at first but his touch and dribbling have improved a bit now) and he can be an asset at a lower/mid-table club with the right set up so he plays from the left and cuts in. I'd rate Gervinho as around the same.
Try actually watching him play instead of going 'LOL it's Bebe watch the crossing show vid'. He's not great, but he doesnt deserve as much hate as he gets
I remember my Arsenal mate at uni celebrating the cup win days in advance (a la City this year) only to get beat by Birmingham.
Try watching him play? Because i posted a youtube video you deduce that i've never seen him play?
And to quote a comment that you've already responded to is a bit weird. I'm not into this whole arguing for the sake of it thing that goes on round here.
Bebe is fecking wank. He is not, nor will he ever be, an asset for us. And that's all i care about. If he'd be an asset for Stoke or Wolves or West Ham or Arsenal (
) i'm not really bothered. He was a waste of money and should be sold to any bidder. Not interested in derailing this thread by having a detailed argument on the merits of Bebe. He's shit. End of story for me really.Try watching him play? Because i posted a youtube video you deduce that i've never seen him play?
And to quote a comment that you've already responded to is a bit weird. I'm not into this whole arguing for the sake of it thing that goes on round here.
Bebe is fecking wank. He is not, nor will he ever be, an asset for us. And that's all i care about. If he'd be an asset for Stoke or Wolves or West Ham or Arsenal (
What the feck are you even arguing for? I said he isn't good enough for us, I'm saying that Gervinho is every bit as bad but doesn't get the hate because Arsenal were forced to play him.
I've deduced that you've not seen him play recently because the only games you've mentioned are the Wolves and Crawley ones. Your assessment of him is outdated.
If you think that players who aren't good enough for us are 'wank' and irrelevant, you're just showing what an utter prick you are.
LOL. Ok mate. He's not wank because he's not good enough for us. He's wank because he's fecking awful at playing football.
There seem to be people here who can see the positives in nearly every footballer, and anyone that dismisses them totally is a 'prick' as you say. I've played with people that are better than Bebe. In parks and on five a side pitches. He's a professional footballer and he's fecking rubbish at it. That's my opinion, doesn't make me a prick.
Why the feck are we talking about Bebe and Gervinho?
Back on topic though, I just don't see him fitting into a team like United at all, in any way, like Berbatov didn't. I think Everton's his level, but even now that Martinez is there I don't think he'd be as good under him. I do think we need both a destroyer type player and a playmaker type, or just an all round midfielder like Vidal, but Fellaini is none of those. Why do people think he'd add so much steel to our midfield? He's not a work horse type player like Luis Gustavo or Khedira who does loads of work defensively which is their best quality, but neither is he a playmaker.He doesn't get stuck in, unless you like players throwing elbows around the pitch and being a thug getting stuck in.
There's a huge difference between that, and doing strong tackles to win the ball. Throughout his time at Everton, he's always looked better when he was played as a center forward. He's excellent at bringing down long balls, or flicking them on, because he is big and strong and positions himself well for that. Why the feck would we ever want a player like that though? He'd be more suited for Stoke then for United. He's a decent passer at best, doesn't have much passing range, and wouldn't really help our problems at keeping the ball under pressure. Cleverley is much better then him technically, and keeping the ball under pressure. Both him and Anderson have more range then Fellaini, and if Anderson ever managed to stay fit over the course of a season then he'd easily be starting next to Carrick in our midfield all the time. Anderson like the one we saw around November time last season before his first injury, is the sort of Anderson we all hoped he could become, and a much better player then Fellaini can be. He's just too injury prone.
Now if you ask me if I'd take him for cover, then sure, why not, but he's worth nothing more then 15 million, which is still a lot for cover. I would not want him as a starter though, simply because I don't think a Fellaini-Carrick partnership would be better then a Carrick-Cleverley partnership has been, in terms of quality on the ball, creating chances and keeping possession. If we're going for a 4-2-3-1 in big games like against Madrid away last season, Jones next to Carrick is arguably as good defensively as Fellaini has been when played there.
Basically, never liked the guy, he's a dirty thug who just isn't suited for United in any way. And he's not that great defensively, which is why a lot of people really want him.
Back on topic though, I just don't see him fitting into a team like United at all, in any way, like Berbatov didn't. I think Everton's his level, but even now that Martinez is there I don't think he'd be as good under him. I do think we need both a destroyer type player and a playmaker type, or just an all round midfielder like Vidal, but Fellaini is none of those. Why do people think he'd add so much steel to our midfield? He's not a work horse type player like Luis Gustavo or Khedira who does loads of work defensively which is their best quality, but neither is he a playmaker.He doesn't get stuck in, unless you like players throwing elbows around the pitch and being a thug getting stuck in.
There's a huge difference between that, and doing strong tackles to win the ball. Throughout his time at Everton, he's always looked better when he was played as a center forward. He's excellent at bringing down long balls, or flicking them on, because he is big and strong and positions himself well for that. Why the feck would we ever want a player like that though? He'd be more suited for Stoke then for United. He's a decent passer at best, doesn't have much passing range, and wouldn't really help our problems at keeping the ball under pressure. Cleverley is much better then him technically, and keeping the ball under pressure. Both him and Anderson have more range then Fellaini, and if Anderson ever managed to stay fit over the course of a season then he'd easily be starting next to Carrick in our midfield all the time. Anderson like the one we saw around November time last season before his first injury, is the sort of Anderson we all hoped he could become, and a much better player then Fellaini can be. He's just too injury prone.
Now if you ask me if I'd take him for cover, then sure, why not, but he's worth nothing more then 15 million, which is still a lot for cover. I would not want him as a starter though, simply because I don't think a Fellaini-Carrick partnership would be better then a Carrick-Cleverley partnership has been, in terms of quality on the ball, creating chances and keeping possession. If we're going for a 4-2-3-1 in big games like against Madrid away last season, Jones next to Carrick is arguably as good defensively as Fellaini has been when played there.
Basically, never liked the guy, he's a dirty thug who just isn't suited for United in any way. And he's not that great defensively, which is why a lot of people really want him.
If your 5 a side buddies have scored goals like these then fair enough
anyway, this is the Fellaini thread so I'll shut up
anyway, this is the Fellaini thread so I'll shut up
Can't really argue with any of that.
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