It seems that a 3 man CM could be what we're looking at, Moyes has already stated he wants two midfielders, one who can contribute towards goals (Fabregas?) and one for a more defensive role (Fellaini?). Can't see Carrick being dropped and like you say, for the fees touted I don't think anyone will be coming in as cover!
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It seems that a 3 man CM could be what we're looking at, Moyes has already stated he wants two midfielders, one who can contribute towards goals (Fabregas?) and one for a more defensive role (Fellaini?). Can't see Carrick being dropped and like you say, for the fees touted I don't think anyone will be coming in as cover!
There are plenty of games to go around and it partly depends on what we're planning to do with Anderson. It could be a case of a two man midfield in some matches and three in others.
Well, it is, both transfers are overpriced at about 50%. (You can shave a few million off of the 50% Caroll transfer fee as well)
Yeah exactly.
Sell Anderson (or don't it doesn't matter, he'll be injured anyway) then a midfield 4 of Carrick, Fabregas, Cleverley, Fellaini looks fine for a 4-4-2.
Do you live in 1992?
Go and look at transfer fees for the past 2 or 3 years, you pretty obviously do.
Game's moved on.
He's better than half-decent. He's not a very glamorous signing, that's the problem. Have the same player in La Liga for Athletico or someone, slap a £35m asking price on him and some people would be away.
For some people signing from within the league, especially from a 'lower' rated club (no disrespect to Everton) is always disappointing because nothing beats the excitement of snatching someone from a rival or a sparkly foreign smash and grab.
For some people signing from within the league, especially from a 'lower' rated club (no disrespect to Everton) is always disappointing because nothing beats the excitement of snatching someone from a rival or a sparkly foreign smash and grab.
He's no world beater, but he knows how to play, no arguments there Stickles (half decent was a bit over), but still, Rooney goes for 20 million and we get Fellaini in for 24 million. I know there's supply and demand, and I understand Economics, but there's a certain limit of logic, a boundary if you will, which states that Marouane Fellaini who isn't in Rooney's league technically and skill wise gets sold for more than Rooney.
How have you got it in your head that Rooney is being sold for £20m?
Because that's what clubs would currently pay for him, on the back of a season where he wasn't exactly as his best. He wasn't bad mind you, but you know he can play far better.
Regardless at what price we value him for his skillset, his form in the end will determine the price. Other clubs simple value him on the back of last season, rather than the other seasons before that too.
If we sell Rooney for £20m, you can bend me over and roger me up the bum.
It's never going to happen.
I never said we would, what I'm saying is that's what I think other clubs currently value him at.
It's like saying your house isn't for sale, but people in the neighbourhood see your house and value it at a certain price.
I think your absolutely off your rocker to think that clubs are going to even think for a second that they can get Rooney for that sort of money. If someone wants to buy Rooney they will have to be aware that we will be looking for a fee in excess of that, if they don't deem him worth what we realistically want to sell him for then they won't make a bid in the first place.
Chelsea signed Fernando Torres for £50m because they wanted to sign him a lot more than Liverpool wanted to sell him, that £50m was his value. We all know that if someone wanted to buy Torres now his value would be much lower because Chelsea would be far more willing to sell.
People have got such a Football Manager idea of how the world works, the transfer market is not binary like people want it to be. At the end of the day a transfer will only be done if the buying and selling club agree on how much a player is 'worth'.
That's exactly it, they know they can't get him for that much. That doesn't mean they don't value him lower than they should. People have short memories for this kind of thing.
He's definitely worth at least 40m, regardless of what they think. They just see him as less, that's all.
That in no way means they've actually made a bid for 20/25m.
This is my point of view anyway.
Fellaini's a decent player and will add that steel our midfield needs. Prices quoted are probably £6m more than he's worth. He is a better player than he gets credit for.
Plennty of teams have physical presence in midfield - Khedira does it for Real Madrid, the Bayern Midfield are not shy of a tackle or two, Dortmund have a destroyer in there, as do Chelsea. Barca dont have anyone like that but could have done with one when Bayern where throttling them in the CL semi.
As for Fellaini's footballing ability - you're talking rubbish. He's more than capable of playing football.
Here's a player who works hard for his team, even if asked to play out of position, has been one of the best players in a side which has consistently over performed and has a few years of PL experience under his belt (where he's played very well), yet because he's tall and physical people make assumptions.
People on here have short memories - some of the best players for United in the PL era have been signings from other PL sides. Here's a player potentially entering his peak years, who's a different type of player to what we have and will, in my opinion make us a much tougher side to play against. In the right position and system he could be a top player for United.
But you're just speculating. Where have you seen anyone say 'we want Wayne Rooney but we're not paying a penny over £20m'? United, for all we know, might actually not want to sell him and wouldn't accept any bid, unles it borders on the stupid which would be a far more likely reason for no deal to happen than a buying club assuming they can sign him for a packet of wine gums.
I like Fellaini. He's only 25 and currently a much better player than he was the last time he played in midfield. I see no reason why he can't prove to be better there now than he was in his early twenties.
A lot of people seem to be caught up on the fact that he's so damned inelegant on the ball, but playing football isn't just about looking neat. It's about being able to play in a way that the opposition can't stop you from hurting them. On his day, Fellaini is unplayable, even though he looks ungainly whilst doing it. He might not make the Barca or Bayern midfields, but they play in their own styles which we're not necessarily trying to emulate. Fellaini can be fantastic when utilised properly, and his versatility would be a massive bonus.
A lot of people seem to be caught up on the fact that he's so damned inelegant on the ball, but playing football isn't just about looking neat. It's about being able to play in a way that the opposition can't stop you from hurting them. On his day, Fellaini is unplayable, even though he looks ungainly whilst doing it. He might not make the Barca or Bayern midfields, but they play in their own styles which we're not necessarily trying to emulate. Fellaini can be fantastic when utilised properly, and his versatility would be a massive bonus.
He's better than Anderson. If Everton will accept a swap deal, fair enough 
Fellaini is not as bad as people are making out. My only concern is that I doubt his defensive abilities. That said, so long as we sign an actual footballer to play in midfield, I'd be fine with Fellaini coming too.
I think there's a very good chance we'll sign him this window, along with Baines, and that they'll be our only major signings. Possibly Khedira too, since Madrid seem open to him leaving.
He's better than Anderson. If Everton will accept a swap deal, fair enough
He's better than more than just Anderson imo. The bottom line is he'd improve us.
Yeah, I'm speculating.
This is a transfer forum. Isn't that what other clubs value him at for the time being?
Let's not discuss Rooney in a Fellaini thread though. If you want to discuss this more, feel free to PM me NinjaFletch.
Slevs is talking some class A shit in this thread.
This is, was & always will be inevitable.
Better get used to the idea...
Better get used to the idea...
Cesc (or a player in that mould) and Fellaini would make sense to me. I think we'll play 3 in midfield also. Then two inside forwards as opposed to direct wingers and the one front man up top. We'd have plenty of options this way, the only player i'd imagine we'd struggle to find a natural place for is Valencia because of his direct style.
RVP/Hernandez in main contention for the striker spot. Welbeck/Zaha/Young/Nani/Kagawa/Giggs/Valencia/Adnan all as wider options. Carrick/Fellaini/Cesc/Cleverley/Anderson/Powell all options for two of the three CM spots, then Rooney/Kagawa/Giggs at the front of the three man mid or Fellaini/Carrick as options behind, depending on opposition. Defence and GK then speaks for itself. Lots of options!
I still see Nani and Rooney both leaving however, as well as possibly Anderson, which would narrow things down.
RVP/Hernandez in main contention for the striker spot. Welbeck/Zaha/Young/Nani/Kagawa/Giggs/Valencia/Adnan all as wider options. Carrick/Fellaini/Cesc/Cleverley/Anderson/Powell all options for two of the three CM spots, then Rooney/Kagawa/Giggs at the front of the three man mid or Fellaini/Carrick as options behind, depending on opposition. Defence and GK then speaks for itself. Lots of options!
I still see Nani and Rooney both leaving however, as well as possibly Anderson, which would narrow things down.
It wouldn't be a transfer to appease some of the people on here, but the simple fact is he'd improve our midfield. He's a very good player & has been since he came into the league.
^ such a load of tripe. Last week he was desperate for an Arsenal move.
Nonsense. There have been plenty of excellent players arriving at Prem teams for less than 20m+ in the last 3 years. Several of these have come to Spurs (e.g. Sandro for £8m, Dembele for £15 etc), but if you want examples from elsewhere then they include Arteta (£10m), Benteke (£8m), Michu (£2m), Coutinho (£8.5m) etc etc.
If Moyes goes for Fellaini it'll partly be because he's "playing safe" by going for the familiar. And if the price is anything like the mooted £24m then he'll paying well over the odds for doing so.
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I wouldn't pay anything more than £10-12m for Fellaini. He's that poo.
For him to be a success in our team we need a better midfield i think. I hope i'm proven wrong.
For him to be a success in our team we need a better midfield i think. I hope i'm proven wrong.
You will be. He wont be a popular player at 1st but he will win the hearts of us all
This thread going to be as amusing as the Fabregas one. You'll end up paying nearly the same money for the great lunk as you bid for Cesc and the anti-muppets will implode this time.
Go away, you have Gervinho.
I fear that Fellaini will be signed, and I despair of our Champions League campaign with a player like that in our team. For feck sake, Nani is a whimp and he got sent off for what was deemed a violent tackle. What do you think is going to happen with Fellaini's elbows engaging various parts of opposition heads?
Once he's not the main midfield signing and is used as backup, I'd accept this.
He's I defent footballer are all, I just don't like him at all.
He's I defent footballer are all, I just don't like him at all.
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