Fellaini would be our second best CM behind Carrick, such is our lack of options and at 25 I think there is a really good player in there somewhere. He gets so much stick on this forum as a uncultured player by people who should watch him more closely.
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Fellaini would be our second best CM behind Carrick, such is our lack of options and at 25 I think there is a really good player in there somewhere. He gets so much stick on this forum as a uncultured player by people who should watch him more closely.
Cleverly performed rather well in a few big games last season. City away in particular.
He's fecking useless. I wouldn't mind him as a squad player, but the thought of spending more than £20m on this guy is ludicrous.
He may be okay with decent players in and around him, be there to cause a nuisance, kick and harass people and defend/attack set pieces. But only if he cost less than £10m. Anything else is a waste of money, unless he surprises us all and actually flourishes with better players along side him.
He may be okay with decent players in and around him, be there to cause a nuisance, kick and harass people and defend/attack set pieces. But only if he cost less than £10m. Anything else is a waste of money, unless he surprises us all and actually flourishes with better players along side him.
Quite well, yeah, but he hardly enforces himself in the big games. Fellaini will score more goals, is probably just as good a passer, and will provide much more presence in the middle than Cleverley.
Again, I don't think Fellaini is top quality but he'd be good enough to start in our mediocre midfield. With other options few and far between, Fellaini wouldn't be the end of the world.
He's too too expensive
I find it genuinely surprising reading people say that Fellaini would be a better CM for us than Cleverley. I don't think you've got particularly high hopes for our future under Moyes if you think that.
Also, i'm pretty sure he could cost Nike about £2m per year in materials. Look at the size of his fecking shirt. It's like an XXXXXXXXL.
Nah, Fellaini isn't as good or as consistent in his passing as Cleverley.
Cleverley would start most games ahead of him IMO, but he would be useful as a backup option or a more steely option.
Cleverley would start most games ahead of him IMO, but he would be useful as a backup option or a more steely option.
I wouldn't mind the guy as a squad player at a reasonable price. He's nowhere near world class, but then we had players like Phil Neville or O'Shea who were good players, but they couldn't ever be considered world class - and despite this they did a decent job for us because of the other talent around them. I wouldn't mind him as an option like that, but not at the money quoted.
I do think we're more likely to sign him that Fabregas, and i will support him if he comes, but i just don't think we're aiming high enough with him. He's an Everton standard player, not a Manchester United standard player.
He's well underrated. Great control, tidy short passing, great pressing, major aerial threat, strength, and can score. He's dirty alright though, don't much like that myself, but up until we were linked with the guy, a lot of fans wanted a dirty player that'd get stuck in.
Gotta imagine he'd be devastating on set pieces for us, with RvP and Rooney taking them.
Versatile too, being able to play offence, defence, and in free roles.
Certainly wouldn't mind him here. I'd definitely want another mid as well though.
Gotta imagine he'd be devastating on set pieces for us, with RvP and Rooney taking them.
Versatile too, being able to play offence, defence, and in free roles.
Certainly wouldn't mind him here. I'd definitely want another mid as well though.
It's fecking hilarious how people act at times in this forum. Fellaini is not a great player and can act as a thug at times, but he would certainly improve us. He's much better than any of Cleverley and Anderson, has a great engine and has physical presence. He's decent at both passing and technique and great at heading. He can partner Carrick or be his cover in case we need to rest Carrick (or God forbid he get injured). He's not in my top choices, but if he's the only one available option, then beggars cannot choose.
You'de be happy with him if we signed him along with another top midfielder, but you would be irked if it was just him? I can understand why you may feel like that but it isn't logical, we could do with a good squad midfielder like him so we should sign him. We are aiming higher than him, but they may or may not work out.
We're definitely more likely to sign him than Fabregas. We're more likely to sign Ronaldo or Bale than Fabregas IMO.
The thought of Fellaini trying to replicate what Carrick does for us really makes me laugh though. If Fellaini is our only midfield signing, and Carrick gets injured for an extended period of time next year, I think we'll finish third at best.
Am I the only one that rates Fellaini or the only one that has the bottle to go against the grain? He is the one player that I always felt would score in any Everton game I watched.
You mean the real world where I agree with you that he's any better than an on form Cleverley or Anderson? Whatever.
Fabregas and Fellaini. I would be in love with Zombie Moyes. People underestimate Marouane too much.
He would improve us, but then so would 80% of all the DM's playing in the Premier League at the moment. He'd improve us for the sole reason that he'd be an extra body in there.
You have your opinion and that's fine, but we're Manchester United. We've set very high standards that we should be looking to maintain, I don't think the mentality of scraping the bottom of the bargain bucket because 'beggars can't be choosers' is going to lead to a very productive long-term for us. Fergie set the standard that only the best would do - why the feck should we be happy with signing a second rate midfielder after losing out on numerous other world class ones? Cause our current midfield isn't very good doesn't mean we should be happy with signing a midfielder who wouldn't make our bench if our midfield was as good as the rest of our departments.
No, you're not the only one.
No, God! That's just not true! If someone says he's better than him, then that's their opinion. I disagree, but that's football. To say he's 'much better' than Cleverley is just mad.
I know that getting into the England side is no great barometer these days, but Cleverley was the only player to play every game for England last season (though that stat may have changed since England's most recent game). Up to February he was a key element of our midfield, and I can only assume he was suffering from a bit of burnout. His one issue is his stamina. He runs a lot during games, which is greatly to his credit, but how often does he play a full 90? In any case, stamina can be improved. If he's going to play more advanced his finishing needs to improve too.
But if you watch United with him in midfield and compare it to when we had Scholes you'd see just how good he is. Scholes and Carrick were a laboured combination with no dynamism or energy. Cleverley brought that to the side. He's direct and moves the play forward quickly. Not only does he do that but he's constantly on the move and looking for the ball. It's a great, under-appreciated quality.
No, they wouldn't. If you look outside the top 5 EPL teams, only Fellaini, Cabaye and arguably McCarthy would improve us. Fellaini is definitely good enough to play in our midfield (by good enough I mean better than other midfielders bar Carrick).
My point is, if we can't sign a top midfielder from outside of England, then it could be the case that Fellaini will be the best choice. We can sign him, and while he won't be a spectacular inspiring signing he will improve us and would be a starter on most of our games. The other alternative would be to cry that our midfield is shit, wait for Ando and Cleverley to get injured/lose the form and then play Giggs to partner Carrick. The first alternative is miles better than the second one.
Kidding yourself mate. It's like the people who think an on form Nani is in the same class as Robben and Ribery. Red tints out all over.
If players can't go through more than a few months of consistency, how can they be classed as equal or better? I just don't get the logic. But the annual overrating of Cleverley and hope that Anderson can remain fit will carry on until the midfield issue is addressed by someone actually buying some talent.
Couldn't give a monkeys if anyone agrees with my opinion...it's denying the truth which is the problem.
No, you're not the only one.
I think he frightens most defenders when he runs at them. Very difficult to stop.
No, not at £20m+ it isn't. And that's the point. He's too much money for what he is. I he cost a normal amount then he'd be a great squad addition despite his flaws. But paying similar to what Thiago went to Bayern for, simply because there's nothing better out there, is madness in my opinion. I'd rather give some of the kids a go in midfield.
To each on their opinions. I have never been convinced by Cleverley. He has a few great matches, some decent ones and some shit ones. When he has the good ones he is the most overrated player of all time here.
Stamina is a big big problem. Saying that the team was improved when we played him instead of Scholes isn't a big argument, considering that Scholes was very meh last season. I think that Fellaini is simply a better player than Cleverley (if you like somewhere between better and much better). For the record, a fully fit Ando IMO is a better player than Cleverley, the problem is that Ando is injured always.
Who are they? Tunniclife hasn't shown ever that he's good enough, Pearson is still too young. Probably the only one is Powell who we still don't know if he can play in a midfield two.
20m isn't that much in today's market. If he improves our midfield and be a first team player then why not. Better on him than on Garay or Baines.
Does Fellaini play in a midfield two?
Will Moyes be playing a midfield two?
Will Moyes be playing a midfield two?
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Yes. With Rooney it will be a midfield two, with Kagawa it will be a midfield three with Kagawa being an advanced attacking midfielder. Still the two midfielers will do most of the midfield jobs, and I don't think that it would be the brightest idea to partner Powell with Carrick. Powell looked quality last season, but I don't think that he's ready yet.
After watching 1 minute of that YouTube video, I think I'll be happy for us to sign him. feck it, lets sign him.
It's got nothing to do with red tinted glasses or thinking Cleverley and Anderson are world beaters, I just think Fellaini is a big lug and not anywhere near what we need, so if it's a choice between nothing and him and I'd rather we stuck than twisted. .
Sigh.... If Ando could find consistent form and health... He's a force of nature on the pitch, at times.
I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree.
I don't rate him, he blows hot and cold for me, and he's far away from what you could describe as classy. No finesse in anything he does. I only think he'd work with classier players in and around him, and i don't think we've got too many of them at this particular moment in time so for me it would be buying a player who's going to be a presence but no sort of match winner, and i've yet to see him run a game on more than a few occasions when he's been brilliant.
If we do get him (which i think we will) i hope i'm proved wrong and he ends up flourishing with the better players around him. I will just be very sceptical if we spend a lot of money on him (and £20m+ is a LOT of money, despite the current climate imo).
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He won't be brilliant for us, neither win games single handed. He can partner Carrick or be cover for him, win a lot of balls in midfield and score some headers. Defensively we will be much better with him in our side.
I would have preferred a playmaker like Thiago (
), Moutinho (), Fabregas or Gundogan or a defensive midfielder/box to box from outside of England like Bender x2, Khedira, Luiz Gustavo, Vidal or Marchisio but if these players are not available (which is very possible to be the case) then Fellaini is the next best option.Strong, intimidating, nightmare to play against and as annoying as hell. We've been dying for someone like him in the middle of the park for years.
People seem to have already forgotten how utterly overrun our midfield was on numerous the past two or three seasons. By midfields with far less talent than Fellaini.
If you made alist of the best premiership-suited, non top-4 central midfielders who would be on it ahead of him?
People seem to have already forgotten how utterly overrun our midfield was on numerous the past two or three seasons. By midfields with far less talent than Fellaini.
If you made alist of the best premiership-suited, non top-4 central midfielders who would be on it ahead of him?
I'm at the point where I'd welcome any new midfield signing.
Phil Jones will be like a midfield signing this season.
Good points, KD. I'm warming up to the idea of signing Fellaini. I'd prefer Fellaini to partner Carrick, instead of playing Jones there (as Fergie had done in big games: vs Madrid and Liverpool away, last season). And we certainly lack a goalscoring CM that he's capable of. And I miss a badass player in our midfield that would kick the shit out of poncy attacking midget dallying with the ball in our defending third area.
About the price, Fellaini certainly worth 20+m for Everton. With this new TV deal, the price of proven PL midfielder is getting expensive; plus him is still 25 yo that has yet to reach his peak. He's their main man, and they just have a new manager that certainly wants his best player to stay.
With all the pessimism in this thread I just came up with a genius idea.
Well basically, muppet transfers never happen for us right? Sometimes we get lucky a la Van Persie but time and time again we put ourselves through torture only to be left disappointed with the eventual outcome, and then it's signings like Fellaini that we know will happen.
So I propose some reverse muppet psychology. Lets all going fecking crazy mental for Fellaini and use the Fabregas thread to call him a useless cnut and then maybe just maybe we'll trick the forces of nature.
And then if we do end up signing Fellaini, we'll all be so psyched from our days and possibly weeks of hysteria that we'll all forget we hated him in the first place and be so thrilled that we got our top transfer target and everyone can love Moyes for signing the saviour.
So who's with me? Fellai the feck in or what??
Well basically, muppet transfers never happen for us right? Sometimes we get lucky a la Van Persie but time and time again we put ourselves through torture only to be left disappointed with the eventual outcome, and then it's signings like Fellaini that we know will happen.
So I propose some reverse muppet psychology. Lets all going fecking crazy mental for Fellaini and use the Fabregas thread to call him a useless cnut and then maybe just maybe we'll trick the forces of nature.
And then if we do end up signing Fellaini, we'll all be so psyched from our days and possibly weeks of hysteria that we'll all forget we hated him in the first place and be so thrilled that we got our top transfer target and everyone can love Moyes for signing the saviour.
So who's with me? Fellai the feck in or what??
We should've just bought Dembele when we could've.
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