We probably cross the ball more than stoke when Valencia or Young plays.
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We probably cross the ball more than stoke when Valencia or Young plays.
Crossing the ball is very different to lumping the ball at every opportunity
Well he'd be nowhere near our crosses if he was playing defensive midfield. Just at set pieces.
If however we picked him instead of Rooney behind RVP then sure he'd be on the end of plenty. But we have better options.
If however we picked him instead of Rooney behind RVP then sure he'd be on the end of plenty. But we have better options.
he would be a good signing to play in a more defensive midfield role, we don't really need him going forward though so that would be the only real reason to bring him in imo.
He's not a striker though. He's a midfielder and take away his ability to win headers and he's a pretty average one. He didn't even score that many goals before this season so it's not like he can regularly chip in with goals from the position we'd be playing him in. Maybe we should've signed Tim Cahill a few years ago.
He's a lot better than average. He is on his way to becoming a complete midfielder at his current rate of progression. His touch is very good, he is clever and measured in his distribution, has surprising pace, great engine and can finish (the chance he buried at Old Trafford in April showed superb technique.) He has a lot more to his game than the ability to win headers, and his aerial prowess provides a unique threat in the final third of the pitch.
Not sure why it matters how many goals he has scored in previous seasons, he is proving now he can be a goal threat. His versatility is an asset to Everton. He would be a terrific signing for United and someone who could also become a genuine cult figure.
The only reason he is getting attention now is because he is scoring goals. The only reason he is scoring goals is because be is basically playing as a striker. He is not the kind of player we need. Phil Neville and Darron Gibson play the role he would be used in at Utd for Everton. He's not that good.
Not sure he is United quality in a deeper role tbh.
He's better than many give him credit for apart from his heading, but having said that he's an inferior player to say Michael Carrick as a deeper midfielder. He doesn't really add anything except a bit of nastiness that we don't already have in our midfield.
Would be a very good addition in my opinion as a defensive centre mid first and fore most but can play all over he's very under rated on the deck imo. Plus at set pieces for and against would help us greatly. Smalling Evans Jones and add Fellani that would make us pretty powerful at set pieces in future such an important part in the premier league and something we are struggling at just now.
So what makes a player United Quality Alex?
Fellani would be a quality player to have at United.
While he would not be the complete answer to the midfield conundrum,He would give an option that we just don't have at the moment.
You're saying he is not United Quality.... He is better than most players that we have at that position at the moment.
He is lethal in the air, has a good eye for goal, no problem getting stuck in and a better engine than he is given credit for.
I can't believe people are saying they don't want a player like him.
What's the harm in having an option like him?
Can't believe some people on here think he is average. Fair enough he may not be what Utd need, but were not talking about some big lump here. He has plenty of technical ability as well. Just an Immense player.
If you don't think he is any good in a deeper role you should look back in this thread when he was playing there and see how good his stats are. Like i've said many times before, the only reason people are noticing him now is because he is scoring. His presence for the team was exactly the same before and it was just as good as it is now, except it is being used as an attacking threat now rather than defensive.
EDIT: Agree regarding technical ability, his chest control is the best in the league by a country mile.
He has very good touches that have linked up some fabulous play for us this season too.
EDIT: Agree regarding technical ability, his chest control is the best in the league by a country mile.
He has very good touches that have linked up some fabulous play for us this season too.
I agree with most of what you are saying, but he will cost 30 million or therabouts in pounds and that is a fee you pay for a guaranteed starter, not just another "option".
He certainly isn't average.
He'd start in our midfield week in week out.
That's just bollocks, we bought Berbatov as another option 4 years ago. Apart from that he is obviously good enough to start for us.
Agreed!
And as for costing 30 million lids that's the sign of the times these days and if that's what he is priced at then thats what someone will pay.
I don't care how much he costs, there is a severe lack of quality midfielders out there.
Fellani is one of them and he's got PL experience.
He hasn't looked out of place against anyone in the Prem, in fact he is almost better in big games.
I'm telling you lads we may regret it if we don't go for him because he won't be at Everton much longer.
He is destined for a big club.
He has everything, I'd take him in a heartbeat.
He is a bit of a thug, but he would start for us in our midfield - quite easily. And also he would be much more adept playing in a 2 man midfield than Sniejder or whatever else the caf wants.
He's had attention for a few years now. The increased attention this season is due to him playing absolutely brilliantly and yes scoring goals is a part of that. He isn't playing as a striker he is primarily a deep-lying forward who can hold up the ball but not be rooted there. He can be all over the pitch, at times dropping deeper to add another body in midfield.
He's an all-round midfielder who can operate deeper, advanced third or simply box-to-box. I would say we are crying out for someone in the middle who combines technical ability, great physicality, aerial ability, stamina and a genuine goal threat. His versatility is a great strength and something that would be utilised by whoever buys him next.
No we didn't. He was bought as a starting option, imo. And apart from that top percentile Strikers are overpriced anyways.
As much as i like him, i am not sure in a deeper role he'd be much better than our current options. Even Gibson is impressing at Everton right now.
Remember he'll have to play as a playmaker of sorts next to Carrick for most games, not as a DM or as a Support striker/AM.
Why? Carrick can offer more as a playmaker, no reason why he shouldn't be doing that job rather than Fellaini. Perhaps having someone else doing that shielding job (which I don't think Carrick's been doing at all well this season) would free him up to show more of himself as a footballer.
Tbh, I probably think Fellaini would offer more infront of our defence than Carrick would but even if he couldn't he certainly offers more than Fletcher, Scholes, Giggs or even Cleverley and Anderson have in recent years.
feck me he would be worth 20 million alone when we next play barcelona, could you imagine Xavi / Iniesta's eyes when we are lumping 60 yard balls through there midfield up to fellaini, who chest controls it down and passes into the path of RVP, who smashes it top corner?
You can take your pressing and sod off! Stoke style!
You can take your pressing and sod off! Stoke style!
Ok he is scoring some goals, getting in the headlines etc. But I just cannot see how he would fit in at United.
Does anyone in our midfield start week in week out?
Sure he's played there, but whenever I've seen him, and I've seen him a decent amount of times to get a proper opinion, most of his good games have been as a centre forward. He's an alright defensive midfielder, but like others have said, even Gibson is impressing for them in midfield and is one of their better midfielders. Him being their main man makes him stick out a lot and look much better then he probably is. Definitely wouldn't be getting him to replace Carrick as Carrick is a much better passer and IMO better, and ere wouldn't be much point in playing them next to each other, it would be way too defensive. I just don't think he has the ability to become a class player for us, or anything more then a decent player.
Someone like gundogan would be a much better option, and would probably cost just as much, if not less.
I would take him here in a heart beat. He would provide the necessary steel that has been lacking since Fletcher's illness. Him and adding another creative player, has the potential to take our team to the next level. Also, I don't think he would cost more than £20m, as he would be looking for a way out of Everton at the end of the season.
Agreed.
Im not sure why people think Fellaini would neccessarilyu be happy to come to another club and have to go back to playing as a holding player.
He's proved at Everton this season that he's got more in his locker than that - he likes to get forward, get a few goals and make a nuisance of himself in the final third. I see no reason why he wont want top keep doing that if he moves on.
Thats the main reason I don't see that United would spend fortunes on him. GHood player but cant see where he would fit in.
Mainly because Phil Neville said last season and again this weekend that Fellaini believes his best position is in that deeper role.
I'm not convinced he's creative enough to play regularly in midfield for a team like us. He'll be useful in the big games, but against teams that put ten behind the ball and work their socks off, don't think he'd be much of an upgrade.
Everton bought him for 16 million iirc. He has a contract till 2016, as well so don't know what makes you think he'll be available for 20 million ?
Carrick isn't a playmaker, imo. He is best used as a defensive shield cum DLP.
Agreed with whoever said someone like Gundogan would be a better fit for us. (In terms of kind of player, rather than only him).
is anyone consistent enough to do that?
No.
Fellani would be in the team as much as possible.
Here is a player who has made our defence look ordinary on many occasions; and some over here still say he is not United quality.
Easy, then he turns in to a superman forward and balls will be crossed in to him non-stop till one meets his head
What is wrong with half of you clowns.. We don't need him to come here and sit infront of the back four, we hav Carrick for that. He would add bit and threat through the centre whicch to me is more important than a Bousquets wannabe.
I think he'd be absolutely class here and would actually fit in pretty well. He's physically an absolute beast but also technically very good and could play all kinds of roles in the midfield.
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