Fellaini (on his way) out? | Duncan Castles: Fellaini agrees new two year deal

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I'm still nervous he'll sign and come back to haunt us for a few more years.

The more worrying aspect is Jose's admiration for him. It indicates that hoofball is still seen as a viable (and important) tactic of of the coming seasons. If Fellaini leaves, don't be surprised if a post-match interview after a defeat next season will include some grumpiness about 'not having the right players to put pressure on the opposition anymore'. (Disclaimer: Not in the Jose out camp, BTW).
 
The more worrying aspect is Jose's admiration for him. It indicates that hoofball is still seen as a viable (and important) tactic of of the coming seasons. If Fellaini leaves, don't be surprised if a post-match interview after a defeat next season will include some grumpiness about 'not having the right players to put pressure on the opposition anymore'. (Disclaimer: Not in the Jose out camp, BTW).

I think we're almost guaranteed a Jose strop next season because he doesn't have Fellaini to lump it up to when we need a goal. Even though that tactic almost never worked anyway.
 
I'll admit, I was fine with his signing. I think the negative views about him were magnified as we bought him at the end of what was probably our worst summer transfer window in recent memory. If we'd signed some of our other targets that year, I don't think signing Fellaini would look as bad.
Even now, I don't mind keeping him, but not at the prices quoted. What's worrying is that we seem very keen on keeping him. As much as I don't mind him as a squad player/plan B up front, there is far better out there. If the reports of the contract we are offering him are accurate, they seem very generous and, if he won't sign, he can do one.
There is a wider issue with Fellaini - he's come to symbolise our problems in the post-SAF era. For that reason alone, it's probably best for both parties if we part ways.
 
The more worrying aspect is Jose's admiration for him. It indicates that hoofball is still seen as a viable (and important) tactic of of the coming seasons. If Fellaini leaves, don't be surprised if a post-match interview after a defeat next season will include some grumpiness about 'not having the right players to put pressure on the opposition anymore'. (Disclaimer: Not in the Jose out camp, BTW).

I doubt it because Mourinho has the habit of praising players that are not highly rated by him.

When you look at who we are linked to, we are clearly willing to replace Fellaini if he denies our reasonable offer. And we are also looking to add Fred who will make Fellaini's game time even more sparce.

If Fellaini leaves, it reminds me a bit of the way Rooney left. Played less and less as time went on but was championed by the manager.
 
I doubt it because Mourinho has the habit of praising players that are not highly rated by him.

Good point. Makes sense in a way, when you consider the number of games he started for us last season (not too many). However, if we're to believe the papers, Jose is annoyed that the contract hasn't been signed. If this is just a charade, then I've got one thing to say: Well played, Jose :devil:
 
Certainly hope so. I still find it remarkable that he wasnt sent packing along with Moyes
 
Really annoys me how desperate we are in this situation.

A player who isn't good enough to play for us, doesn't resign his contract and wants to leave, and we keep pandering to him and trying to get him to stay.

Cannot wait till Fellaini leaves.
 
Really annoys me how desperate we are in this situation.

A player who isn't good enough to play for us, doesn't resign his contract and wants to leave, and we keep pandering to him and trying to get him to stay.

Cannot wait till Fellaini leaves.
How exactly are we pandering to him?
 
How exactly are we pandering to him?

Mourinhos has done nothing but praise him very highly and we've offered him a slight payrise to stay. He wants more and a long term than we are offering.
 
Really annoys me how desperate we are in this situation.

A player who isn't good enough to play for us, doesn't resign his contract and wants to leave, and we keep pandering to him and trying to get him to stay.

Cannot wait till Fellaini leaves.

We offered him a 1-year contract. I don't understand how people can see that in any way as a sign of desperation on our side.
 
Mourinhos has done nothing but praise him very highly and we've offered him a slight payrise to stay. He wants more and a long term than we are offering.
As it was said here Jose oftenly praises players he doesn't have a high opinion of. In any case it's over, he was offered a contract and he refused. So as I said I dont see how we're pandering to him anymore nor how we were pandering at all.
 
I cant wait for the golden keylock on this thread with him leaving and the thread title ends with an exclamation mark rather than a question mark. I thought at the time one of the worst signings we have ever made, considering the time he has been here I still stand by that. Only thing I respect is he gives his all, it just isnt enough, dirty, technically awful, no football intelligence, no ability passing wise whatsoever. Works hard for the teamand is obviousoly good in the air for a brand of football I have hated us resorting to at times.
I remember when we were in for him on here years ago I was livid and somebody said his short passing was better than Roy Keanes I was just saying the opposite because of what a talisman and all round midfielder Keane was....was laughable then as well
 
As it was said here Jose oftenly praises players he doesn't have a high opinion of. In any case it's over, he was offered a contract and he refused. So as I said I dont see how we're pandering to him anymore nor how we were pandering at all.

What is the theory behind why he does this exactly?
 
The more worrying aspect is Jose's admiration for him. It indicates that hoofball is still seen as a viable (and important) tactic of of the coming seasons. If Fellaini leaves, don't be surprised if a post-match interview after a defeat next season will include some grumpiness about 'not having the right players to put pressure on the opposition anymore'. (Disclaimer: Not in the Jose out camp, BTW).
We don't play hoofball with Fellaini on the pitch: we put crosses into the box for him. Herrera's goal against Spurs in the FA Cup semi-final was much more hoofey than Fellaini's goal against Arsenal at home in the PL. It's one of the biggest myths going that Fellaini means hoofball.
 
Guessing you've never actually watched him, because that's bullshit

How did you know, I have supported the club he plays for over 35 years but no I havent actually seen him play. What part of that is bullshit, he has no technique whatsoever, he works hard positionally but is generally cluless and make desperate lunging mistakes time and time again, his passing generally is solely of a give it to the nearest player, his weight of pass is often awful too. He is solely a good player as a number 10 for a club playing very direct football, would have been great under Jack Charlton for Republic or Ireland.
I am expressing my opinion, not fact, so you cant really class it as bullshit, but please expand about what I must be missing about Fellaini then?
 
What is the theory behind why he does this exactly?

To be honest I just think he heavily praises players who are happy to take a squad role and only play now and again.

I think it’s just his way of trying to keep them happy and show a bit of gratitude. Any big squad is going to have a few players only called upon when absolutely necessary.
 
How did you know, I have supported the club he plays for over 35 years but no I havent actually seen him play.

Wow, admire your honesty, but i'm not really sure how you missed seeing him as he's well over 6 foot tall, has big hair which makes him look even taller, and you could say he's not the most elegant of movers when in stride, not that that's important though as long as he does what his Manager(s)ask of him in various positions and he does, but if you'd been paying attention you'd have known that.

I am expressing my opinion, not fact,

Obviously, but thanks for pointing it out
 
What is the theory behind why he does this exactly?
Based on Didier Drogba , He said Mourinho never attack/criticize player he doesn't like which could work other way around. Remember he keeps praising Rooney only to bench and sell him in the end.
 
Based on Didier Drogba , He said Mourinho never attack/criticize player he doesn't like which could work other way around. Remember he keeps praising Rooney only to bench and sell him in the end.

Not too sure about that... If that was the case, he wouldn't have come out and publicly pleaded with him to stay and ask the board to offer him a contract like three times. There is no hidden meaning or theory. Mourinho likes Fellaini.
 
I think we're almost guaranteed a Jose strop next season because he doesn't have Fellaini to lump it up to when we need a goal. Even though that tactic almost never worked anyway.

Exactly. That tactic rarely works cos players don't even bother marking Fellani unless during setpieces. Now the direct impact is that the rest of our attackers are outnumbered and struggle in the limited spaces. Put in a midget like Fekir, Coutinho or Zola, i bet our attacking goes up a notch since such players tend to drag defenders out of positions, and teams out of shape, through their trickery, abilities to beat players through dribbles, pace and well concealed passes. Seriously, JM need to wake the fcuk up and get in touch with his attacking acumen.
 
Guessing you've never actually watched him, because that's bullshit

What are you talking about? His statement is spot on. How would you then rate his following qualities?

1) Short & Long passing. Weight and accuracy?
2) Football intelligence as in vision, abilities to read the game in the defensive and offensive scheme during a match. Does he have an eye for a defence splitting pass? Does he track back runners making movements off the ball to help out our defence?
3) Technique in terms of dribbling, ball control from a high or hard or fast pass, dribbling, body feints or abilities and composure with the ball from pressing and in tight spaces? Chest control i give him a worldclass given its such a rare quality.

Feel free to add on qualities which support the definition of passing, technique and football intelligence.
 
After his comments that United had "made a mistake" in delaying the offer and now he would cost more, United should have taken all offers off the table.

Does anyone have an actual source for this?
 
Only funny thing about Afro`s interview/s is that its highlights doubters. Wonder is JM still on his knees begging.
 
The longer this drags on, greater the chances he'll extend with us.
 
The longer this drags on, greater the chances he'll extend with us.

That's how i see it. He is running out of options. No one wants to sign a beanpole on that salary
 
Please just sign elsewhere! The more he takes the less time Woody and Mou have time to find a proper replacement who is actually a footballer and not just a tall guy with desire.
 
Based on Didier Drogba , He said Mourinho never attack/criticize player he doesn't like which could work other way around. Remember he keeps praising Rooney only to bench and sell him in the end.

The Rooney thing was different, i think he knew he was past it but he respected Rooney personally and he respected his status within the club and didn't want to create a situation the media could turn into a shitstorm they could drag on all season.

With Fellaini he genuinely seems to love him. Plus i can't remember him ever doing this praising players he doesn't like/rate before. Seems like a myth.
 
The Rooney thing was different, i think he knew he was past it but he respected Rooney personally and he respected his status within the club and didn't want to create a situation the media could turn into a shitstorm they could drag on all season.

With Fellaini he genuinely seems to love him. Plus i can't remember him ever doing this praising players he doesn't like/rate before. Seems like a myth.

If he loves him then he would have given him more then 4 EPL starts and he would have made sure he would get the contract he wanted

I think Mou see a use for him. However he is not willing to overpay 4 his services. The rest is all posturing in front of the media were he basically defended his manager's right to choose the players he want
 
We need him gone ASAP, I think the lack of players moving on from the club (Darmian as well) are what's holding us back in the market, we already have a bloated squad and regardless of their qualities they get paid very well and you can't just add more players without some going.
 

Ahh thanks Class of 63 Now I see why we have failed post Fergie, all our managers have asked Fellaini to run around like a useless twat.
 
If he loves him then he would have given him more then 4 EPL starts and he would have made sure he would get the contract he wanted

I think Mou see a use for him. However he is not willing to overpay 4 his services. The rest is all posturing in front of the media were he basically defended his manager's right to choose the players he want

I see what you're saying but to be fair he has had a lot of injuries this season. I don't think Mourinho sees him as a mainstay in the first team, i agree he thinks he is useful and has a really good relationship with him and genuinely does want him to stay.
 
Ahh thanks Class of 63 Now I see why we have failed post Fergie, all our managers have asked Fellaini to run around like a useless twat.
Don't think they needed to ask him to play like a useless twat, that just comes naturally
 
We need him gone ASAP, I think the lack of players moving on from the club (Darmian as well) are what's holding us back in the market, we already have a bloated squad and regardless of their qualities they get paid very well and you can't just add more players without some going.
Ditto
 
He's probably right, in the fact it would cost 50m to replace him. But the fact he isn't even worth half that, is ironic, to say the least.
 
I see what you're saying but to be fair he has had a lot of injuries this season. I don't think Mourinho sees him as a mainstay in the first team, i agree he thinks he is useful and has a really good relationship with him and genuinely does want him to stay.

Mou is a continental manager. He is here to win not to be sentimental towards players. Mou believes Fellaini has some use and the club has offered a contract that reflects that. If he accepts it then good, if he doesn't then we move to other targets.

I think fellaini knows that and he thinks he can get a better deal possibly with more playing time. He'll better sort this quickly else he risks burning bridges with united and having to settle to any terms offered to him by other clubs
 
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