Fellaini “foul” on Mané in our box

Correct call would be a freekick to United and a yellow to Mane for trying to con the ref.
 
If the challenge was at the other end we'd be screaming for a penalty for United - I get why the scousers are pissed off with that one.

Just another example of how fecking embarrassing Fellaini is - joke of a player.
Fellaini makes you embarrassed? Actually self conscious, ashamed and red faced?
Thought we improved greatly in a difficult period once he was brought on....
 
the pen was ashley young on salsah first half, not that one. Anyway, I did say during the week while others were shitting themselves that Jose knows how to win these types of games
 
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It’s not a penalty and it’s insane to claim it is when you can watch it in slow motion.

This is a freeze frame before either player has touched the ball. In order for it to be a penalty, mane would have to;

A) not be behind Fellaini
B) have reasonable cause to believe he can get the ball first.

Fellaini has positioned himself in such a way he is the clear favourite to come away with the ball.
 
Nah, he was going for it. You have to at that point. The players did not complain.

He wasn't going for the ball, he was sticking his leg in to try and buy the foul. It's simulation.

Players not complaining doesn't mean anything.
 
Fellaini makes you embarrassed? Actually self conscious, ashamed and red faced?
Thought we improved greatly in a difficult period once he was brought on....

It's embarrassing for Manchester United because he's clearly not good enough and makes reckless decisions - he wouldn't get into any squad of any other team with ambitions of winning major honours.
 
On the other hand, what was Firmino thinking? Didn’t he have a lot of space to move into and he tries that?
 
It's embarrassing for Manchester United because he's clearly not good enough and makes reckless decisions - he wouldn't get into any squad of any other team with ambitions of winning major honours.
Like the Europa League final (a major honour) he was key to Manchester United winning last season? I imagine the entire squad are ashamed by his presence. Any other players fill you, and indeed the entire club, with humiliation?
Anyway, not the thread for this debate over your hyperbolic statements.
 
Fellaini was supposed to let Mané take the loose ball, then attempt to tackle him. It was grossly unfair of him to make an interception that deprived the thrilling Liverpool attack of the ball.
 
Never a pen, was more of a free kick for us with Mane tripped Fellaini. He's running to the ball and Mane just shoves a leg in to get in front.

Think it's one of those where they had like 3 or 4 appeals so pundits are inclined to say one of them should've been a pen (for whatever reason). None of them were pens.
  • Handball on valencia, arm close to his body, natural position, not hand to ball = no pen.
  • Young tug on Salah; normal tussle, just because it's in the box doesn't mean all of a sudden the rules change and it's a 0 contact sport = no pen.
  • Fellaini on mane; more like Mane foul on fellaini = no pen.
  • Bailly on Milner (think Souness was adamant it should've been a pen); shielding the ball, happens every game = no pen.

Ref got them spot on. Though obviously if they were against us, we'd appeal for them, and they could've been called of course, but it would've been the wrong decision, so yeah.
 
Mane changing his running-path with that foot just to get it in Fellaini's way. If anything is to be done by the ref (which i don't think is needed) it'd be a foul against Mane.

I do remember one of our players being lucky as hell with a high-foot with studs not connecting with a Pool players chest, which if it did should have ended in a direct red. But that's all there was to the game in my opinion.
 
The grab from Young as well. He held on to (I think) Firminio for about 2 seconds and they showed it about 3 times. Ridiculous.
 
Mane changing his running-path with that foot just to get it in Fellaini's way. If anything is to be done by the ref (which i don't think is needed) it'd be a foul against Mane.

I do remember one of our players being lucky as hell with a high-foot with studs not connecting with a Pool players chest, which if it did should have ended in a direct red. But that's all there was to the game in my opinion.
Valencia. Could've gone for that, I agree. Not sure what he was doing.
 
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It’s not a penalty and it’s insane to claim it is when you can watch it in slow motion.

This is a freeze frame before either player has touched the ball. In order for it to be a penalty, mane would have to;

A) not be behind Fellaini
B) have reasonable cause to believe he can get the ball first.

Fellaini has positioned himself in such a way he is the clear favourite to come away with the ball.

Agree to me it is like a tackle from behind a free out
 
If you actually look Mane plants his leg in front of Fellaini and Fellaini hits his leg. Yes Mane tried to manipulate it but it could easily have been given.

Yes Mane initiated the contact and it wasn't a penalty. Well done.

How you think that's embarassing for Fellaini is beyond any sense of reason.
 
Not seeing much claim for a penalty there, at all. I'd feel silly trying to claim that one.

I do remember one of our players being lucky as hell with a high-foot with studs not connecting with a Pool players chest, which if it did should have ended in a direct red. But that's all there was to the game in my opinion.
Didn't think that was reckless, myself. Yellow card was right.

Have I just suddenly gone partisan or have you lot gone the other way? I'm used to being the one who says things are our fault and just about resisting comments about red tinted glasses.
 
Never a penalty, but "fair play" to Mane for almost pulling that one. Would never get to the ball and didn't notice on first viewing what he tried to do. The fecker.

Don't know what pundits are watching and they can see the incident from multiple angles before they comment.
 
Yes Mane initiated the contact and it wasn't a penalty. Well done.

How you think that's embarassing for Fellaini is beyond any sense of reason.

Lots of players intiate contact and get penalties, it's part of the modern game.

Fellaini is an embarrassment to the club. I'll alway stand by that view point, he is not good enough.

I find it strange how people can't discuss different views on decisions and games without trying to be a smart arse - I guess I'm just old...
 
Watching this again on MOTD. Pundits are convinced it’s a pen. Am I the only one who thinks that the reverse view shows Fellaini on his way to win the ball cleanly when Mané sticks his right leg out and blatantly trips him?

@GifLord ?
Agreed. Mane, sticks his leg out which causes the collision. They were running side by side more or less, if Mane doesn't cut across, there's no incident. That being said, Manes right move didnt move massively across so it's not obvious to spot at first viewing.
 
It would be interesting to listen to that cnut referee pensioner Gallagher on Skysports about these penalties
Lets see what narrative they build
 
Lots of players intiate contact and get penalties, it's part of the modern game.

Fellaini is an embarrassment to the club. I'll alway stand by that view point, he is not good enough.

I find it strange how people can't discuss different views on decisions and games without trying to be a smart arse - I guess I'm just old...
You probably are but, I mean, Pogue started this thread and, emotionally, he's at a grumpy old man stage of about 75.
 
If it was at the other end, no way would this be a talking point.
 
Lots of players intiate contact and get penalties, it's part of the modern game.

Fellaini is an embarrassment to the club. I'll alway stand by that view point, he is not good enough.

I find it strange how people can't discuss different views on decisions and games without trying to be a smart arse - I guess I'm just old...

No, you decided it was a foul as an excuse to have a go at Fellaini.

I don't like him as a player and he's often clumsy, but intercepting a pass and getting kicked isn't irresponsible and definitely isn't a penalty.
 
Mane buys it, but a lot of the time you'll see them given and the attacker praised for being clever in winning it. I've always thought we need to learn the dark arts to an extent to help us manage games and in situations we aren't playing well.
Today was one such occasion, we were terrible and needed to make our own luck like that if you will. But at the end of the day we were done over tactically by Mourinho. He let us have the ball knowing the only midfielders that could hurt him with it were sat on the bench and even they aren't infallible.

To answer the question, probably a pen but not something I'm concerned about, we need to improve in the summer in key areas and pick up some nous. On a positive trajectory but as a league side we don't have enough over 38 games which was pretty obvious beforehand.
 
Lots of players intiate contact and get penalties, it's part of the modern game.

Yes, it's called simulation/diving/cheating. None of which is the fault of the player on the receiving end.

Fellaini is an embarrassment to the club. I'll alway stand by that view point, he is not good enough.

I'm not his biggest fan but idiots blaming him for stuff that has nothing to do with him is an embarrassment if anything.

I find it strange how people can't discuss different views on decisions and games without trying to be a smart arse - I guess I'm just old...

Nice goalpost shifting. You're certainly something.